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Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:06 pm**

It's December so I believe it's once again time choose the albums of the year.
I'll start:

EDIT: Here you can see the last year's topic Stratoforum Awards 2004

Elazul wrote:The Best:

Kamelot - The Black Halo

Equilibrium - Turis Fratyr

Savage Circus - Dreamland Manor

Opeth - Ghost Reveries

Helloween - Keeper Of The Seven Keys Part III - The Legacy

The Good:

Gamma Ray - Majestic

Stratovarius - Stratovarius

Nocturnal Rites - Grand Illusion

Children Of Bodom - Are You Dead Yet ?

The Worst:

FreedomCall - The Circle Of Life

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:52 pm**

Btw, just to throw this out, this is not to be confused with the GSLA awards, which is totally different than from the StratoForum awards. Now, onto my picks:

The Best:
Helloween - Keeper Of The Seven Keys Part III - The Legacy

The Good:
Stratovarius - Stratovarius

The Worst:
can't think of one right now!

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 7:55 pm**

Sonic Firestorm was released in 2004, wasn´t it ?

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:01 pm**

oh, snaps, your right! Let me rethink this...

EDIT: I made the changes in my previous post

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:06 pm**

Anyway if there are some more album-lists posted I will create a poll,
so we can vote for the very best album in the year 2005.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:22 pm**

Here's my faves so far, in no particular order:
Lande/Allen - The Battle
Brazen Abbot - My Resurrection
Glenn Hughes - Soul Mover
Royal Hunt - Paper Blood
XSavior - Caleidoscope
Kamelot - The Black Halo
Dream Theater - Octavarium
Masterplan - Aeronautics
Rammstein - Rosenrot
Journey - Generations

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:20 pm**

I'd say
BEST :
Masterplan - Aeronautics

REALLY GOOD :
Thunderstone - Tool Of Destruction
Kreator - Enemy of God
Gamma Ray - Majestic

GOOD :
Stratovarius - Stratovarius

NOT GOOD :
Kamelot - Black halo
Hammerfall - Chapter V

sorry short list, I couldn't buy so many CDs this year.

Posted: **Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:50 pm**

Hey you left Octavarium out! Vote for the best... and the rest I don't give a fuck about, I only have one life you know

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:28 am**

OK one from each:

Best: Kamelot (still one the best bands around)

Good: Gamma Ray - Majestic

Crap, rubbish, shouldn't have been done: Stratovarius - Stratovarius

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 12:45 am**

Well...i'll make a top 3

Obituary - Frozen in time
Motorhead - Infernö
Bruce Dickinson - Tyranny of souls

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:17 am**

what's the matter...?? Stratovarius - Stratovarius only "good" or "should not be"?

IMO Gamma Ray has covered any songs on the album (itself and other bands like Judas Priest -> listen the 4th track, sounds exactly like Metal Meltdown!).

Black Halo - very good!
octavarium - very good!

Chapter V: I agree, HF has worked better!

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 2:51 am**

Because the new Stratovarius wasn´t perfect (Episode would have been that kind of perfect), but a good one that is for sure.

My vote for the rubbish or the worst category is Thunderstone - Tools of Destruction, that album started me to hate Thunderstone.

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 3:02 am**

The Best: Rotting Christ - Sanctus Diavolos

The Good: Stratovarius - Stratovarius

The Worst: I havn't bought any albums this year I hated.

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:32 pm**

I haven't listened many albums which are made this year... But I still have listened some of them, and I like most of these two masterpieces:
Bruce Dickinson - A Tyranny of Souls :headbang:
Opeth - Ghost Reveries

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:47 pm**

IceBreaker wrote:Because the new Stratovarius wasn´t perfect (Episode would have been that kind of perfect), but a good one that is for sure.

excellent

IceBreaker wrote:My vote for the rubbish or the worst category is Thunderstone - Tools of Destruction, that album started me to hate Thunderstone.

Why? Gimme news! I like that album. It is a lil't bit different from the other two's but still good.

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:22 pm**

nepi wrote:
IceBreaker wrote:My vote for the rubbish or the worst category is Thunderstone - Tools of Destruction, that album started me to hate Thunderstone.

Why? Gimme news! I like that album. It is a lil't bit different from the other two's but still good.

I guess it's just a matter of taste.
I agree that Tool Of Destruction isn't perfect, but it has something really interesting.
Maybe many people just don't like it so much because it's not so "fast powermetal" (this album is more "rock", like Masterplan), because when Thunderstone released their first album, many people considered them like the new Stratovarius. Well, this new album proved that Thunderstone has
his own style.
Btw, they have an amazing singer, who sometimes sounds between Dio and Jorn Lande. And "I will come again" is a wonderful song, with a killing singing part!

Posted: **Fri Dec 02, 2005 8:56 pm**

Nobody(including me haha) said NEVERMORE - THIS GODLESS ENDEAVOR

Its AWESOME!

btw, also Place Vendome - Place Vendome, a project with the heavy music eneny Michael Kiske and the Pink cream 69 guys? its very good also!

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 12:52 am**

cliff wrote:
Why? Gimme news! I like that album. It is a lil't bit different from the other two's but still good.

I guess it's just a matter of taste.
I agree that Tool Of Destruction isn't perfect, but it has something really interesting.
Maybe many people just don't like it so much because it's not so "fast powermetal" (this album is more "rock", like Masterplan), because when Thunderstone released their first album, many people considered them like the new Stratovarius. Well, this new album proved that Thunderstone has
his own style.
Btw, they have an amazing singer, who sometimes sounds between Dio and Jorn Lande. [/quote]Yeah, I´d say so. I would have liked more the power-style Thunderstone and the new album was totally something different I´d have expected. Only Land of Innocence is a great song on the album btw. Now they sound though more their own but IMHO someway a cheap Dio-copy. I also don´t like some of their musicians too. There are enough better metal bands in Finland than TS.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:22 am**

Best: Massacration - Gates Of Metal Fried Chicken Of Death
Worst: Massacration - Gates Of Metal Fried Chicken Of Death

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:13 am**

IceBreaker wrote:Yeah, I´d say so. I would have liked more the power-style Thunderstone and the new album was totally something different I´d have expected. Only Land of Innocence is a great song on the album btw. Now they sound though more their own but IMHO someway a cheap Dio-copy. I also don´t like some of their musicians too. There are enough better metal bands in Finland than TS.

Well, personally one reason why I like this album is because it's different but still good. You know, some bands can play the same music for 4 or 5 albums, and then, as a "fan" you think "why should I buy the new album, if it's exactly the same as the others". (Primal Fear or Sonta Arctica, for ex).

You don't like some of their musicians ? Which one(s) ?
Personally I hate their bass player, he is everything I hate in someone.
But the other musicians seem really ok. I heard their keyboard player is really nice, but perhaps really really shy.

But I have to admit Thunderstone isn't so good live. I dunno why, something's missing. Perhaps because they have only one guitar player on stage, perhaps because Pasi can't sing perfectly live. And another thing : it seems they have played in Tuska every year since 2001, and always in the small stages!

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:51 am**

It has been a big year for music purchases and I liked everything that I picked up. so if I forget one I will post it later on. In fact everyone I thought was excellent except for 1, and that would be the one on the bottom of the list.

in no particular order, for me it was:
Primal Fear- Seven Seals
Yngwie Malmsteen- Unleash The Fury
Fear Factory- Transgression
Alice Cooper- Dirty Diamonds
Kamelot- The Black Halo
Hypocrisy- Virus
Bruce Dickinson- Tyrrany Of Souls
Iron Maiden- Death On The Road
Obituary- Frozen In Time
69 Eyes- Devils
Children Of Bodom- Are You Dead Yet
Royal Hunt- Paper Money
Testament- Live In London
Edguy- Superheroes ep
Judas Priest- Angel Of Retribution
Overkill- Relixiv
Leave's Eyes- Vinland Saga
HIM- Dark Light
Hammerfall- Chapter V
Exodus- Shovel-headed Kill Machine
BRONX CASKET COMPANY- Hellectric
Sentenced- Funeral Album ( a disapointment in my opinion, but still worth having)

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:14 pm**

OPOJ wrote:Best: Massacration - Gates Of Metal Fried Chicken Of Death
Worst: Massacration - Gates Of Metal Fried Chicken Of Death

Alpha & Omega?

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:15 pm**

Stratovarius is a perfect album!
But the new Helloween and Running Wild materials are worse than the older albums.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:43 pm**

OPOJ wrote:Best: Massacration - Gates Of Metal Fried Chicken Of Death
Worst: Massacration - Gates Of Metal Fried Chicken Of Death

You consider this shit and old "not more funny" joke a real band?

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:21 pm**

cliff wrote:I'd say
BEST :
Masterplan - Aeronautics
At Vance - Chained

REALLY GOOD :
Thunderstone - Tool Of Destruction
Kreator - Enemy of God
Gamma Ray - Majestic

GOOD :
Stratovarius - Stratovarius

NOT GOOD :
Kamelot - Black halo
Hammerfall - Chapter V

sorry short list, I couldn't buy so many CDs this year.

Posted: **Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:44 pm**

Ok folks here we go.
Lets vote for the best Metal album in the year 2005.
Sadly there were only 15 places for poll-options.
Anyway the vote runs until 1.1.2006.

Posted: **Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:42 am**

Stratovarius... but this year was quite weak imho.

Posted: **Sun Dec 04, 2005 4:46 am**

Rotting Christ - Sanctus Diavolos came out LAST year.

Posted: **Sun Dec 04, 2005 5:58 pm**

NeonVomit wrote:Rotting Christ - Sanctus Diavolos came out LAST year.

Elazul wrote:It's December so I believe it's once again time choose the albums of the year.

NeonVomit wrote:The Best: Rotting Christ - Sanctus Diavolos

The Good: Stratovarius - Stratovarius

The Worst: I havn't bought any albums this year I hated.

So it is my mistake that Rotting Christ is in the poll or yours ?

Posted: **Mon Dec 05, 2005 3:14 am**

only heard strato's album within those

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