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Post by NeonVomit » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:42 pm

Right, this thread will be to make a list of potential candidates and other issues, and keep this sort of thing out of other threads as it will threaten to overwhelm them as the time edges closer and closer...

So far:

R: John McCain, Ron Paul

D: Barak Obama, Hillary 'out, out, damned spot!' Clinton

Independant: Nader?
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Post by stratobabius » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:00 pm

Found some from BBC:

Democrats:
Joe Biden
John Edwards
Al Gore
Bill Richardson
as well as the 2 mentioned above.

Republicans:
Sam Brownback
Newt Gingrich
Rudolph Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
John McCain
Mitt Romney

and the link too, if you like to read.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5006788.stm

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Post by browneyedgirl » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:03 pm

Damn, the choices for the Democratic party are all pretty good! Al Gore? Hmmmmmmm. John Edwards is a good choice, too. I may have to rethink Hillary. ???
Its a long time to when the Conventions are held where a final choice is chosen by the delegates. And even longer to the elections, so anything can happen!

<sigh> Monarchy sounds so much simplier! :)
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Post by StratoTimo » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:21 pm

NeonVomit wrote:Right, this thread will be to make a list of potential candidates and other issues, and keep this sort of thing out of other threads as it will threaten to overwhelm them as the time edges closer and closer...

So far:

R: John McCain, Ron Paul

D: Barak Obama, Hillary 'out, out, damned spot!' Clinton

Independant: Nader?
Can I ask that why in Stratovarius Forum must be allways somekind of politics discussion or now this elections discussion?
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Post by Carcass » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:04 am

Why shouldn't there be?

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Post by StratoTimo » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:25 am

Because here is not so much who likes to speak politics! I think that only 4-6 humans who wrote in politic! And forum has over 4000 users!!!
Politic is for politician!
In my opinion I say that go somewhere else to speak that shit!
And This is Finish band forum. We don't care about politic in U.S.A or anywhere else!
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Post by IceBreaker » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:38 am

Hm, I agree with Timo that there have been quite much political discussions here in the late times, and also see this board getting political (& on the other hand also spam) oriented instead of a music forum. Maybe because there has been very silent in Strato-camp now.

But of course not everyone needs to read or write about everything. I think some ppl will discuss more about music here and some about politics. But still there aren´t so many Strato-oriented forums on the net than political discussion boards...

These were just my 2 cents about this matter.
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Post by Carcass » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:43 am

This is a forum of a Finnish band? So what? That argument is... funny. There are at least three American members here, and a few more who are interested in world affairs, including American politics. Everyone who follows what's going on in the world should be interested in American politics.

And politics is for politicians? That's a healthy attitude. Stop voting, if that's what you think.

Oh and those political topics happen to be pretty famous, mind you. Even a member of Stratovarius have participated in the discussions. Oh yeah, shit, he's not Finnish... fuck... maybe he should be sacked from the band. Wait a minute, their drummer is not Finnish either...

There is room for everybody here, don't you think?

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Post by StratoTimo » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:45 am

Carcass wrote:This is a forum of a Finnish band? So what? That argument is... funny. There are at least three American members here, and a few more who are interested in world affairs, including American politics. Everyone who follows what's going on in the world should be interested in American politics.

And politics is for politicians? That's a healthy attitude. Stop voting, if that's what you think.

Oh and those political topics happen to be pretty famous, mind you. Even a member of Stratovarius have participated in the discussions. Oh yeah, shit, he's not Finnish... fuck... maybe he should be sacked from the band. Wait a minute, their drummer is not Finnish either...

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Post by IceBreaker » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:48 am

Carcass wrote:Even a member of Stratovarius have participated in the discussions. Oh yeah, shit, he's not Finnish... fuck... maybe he should be sacked from the band.
Oh, one? Think about it twice... :wink:
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Post by Equinox » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:57 am

This is the "other discussions in English" so we can talk about anything!

Politics, music & any other possible shit that comes to our minds.

It doesn't matter if this forum is in Finland...I don't live there and I care about what happens there.

And not only me. Just check BEG's topic on the storms in Europe.

So...I think it' doesn't matter if we have one or one too many discussions about whatever we want.
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Post by NeonVomit » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:05 am

Politics are fun :D Well, talking about current events almost always involves politics anyway... so yeah!
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Post by browneyedgirl » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:53 am

Well, this section is for more serious subjects like politics&since this is an internet forum we cannot bite each others heads off over it, so why not discuss politics? And a healthy argument is not gonna kill anyone, either! By healthy, I mean no name-calling or insults to the other person's gender or origin and watching the language somewhat.
Yes, discussions like this can be fun, just not let it get personal.
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Post by browneyedgirl » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:57 am

IceBreaker wrote:
Carcass wrote:Even a member of Stratovarius have participated in the discussions. Oh yeah, shit, he's not Finnish... fuck... maybe he should be sacked from the band.
Oh, one? Think about it twice... :wink:
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Post by Carcass » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:22 am

IceBreaker wrote:
Carcass wrote:Even a member of Stratovarius have participated in the discussions. Oh yeah, shit, he's not Finnish... fuck... maybe he should be sacked from the band.
Oh, one? Think about it twice... :wink:
So I thought. But obviously I'm wrong. Somebody behind a nick? :)

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Post by stratobabius » Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:37 am

StratoTimo wrote:I think that only 4-6 humans who wrote in politic! And forum has over 4000 users!!!
Thereare about 30-40 people who come here on a regular basis so those 4-6 individuals are quite a big minority. :)
The rest are spammers. :D

EDIT: Have you ckecked what kind of topics are discussed in other forums other discussion? I'm happy that there are people here that are serious and have a sense of humour, where needed.

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Post by IceBreaker » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:54 pm

Carcass wrote:Somebody behind a nick? :)
:roll:

(And yes I don´t mean Kotipelto...)
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Post by StratoTimo » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:05 pm

IceBreaker wrote:
Carcass wrote:Somebody behind a nick? :)
:roll:

(And yes I don´t mean Kotipelto...)
Hello there, can you say that is he from Finland :D ?
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Post by IceBreaker » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:09 pm

Just think about...
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Post by StratoTimo » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:16 pm

stratobabius wrote:
StratoTimo wrote:I think that only 4-6 humans who wrote in politic! And forum has over 4000 users!!!
Thereare about 30-40 people who come here on a regular basis so those 4-6 individuals are quite a big minority. :)
The rest are spammers. :D
Rest are spammers because they don't like politics!
Why don't we just make discussion where those 30-40 humans can say their opinion?
But NO politic, it's too much politics in News allready, when I need politic I watch it on TV and that's enough!
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Post by NeonVomit » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:51 pm

StratoTimo wrote:
stratobabius wrote:
StratoTimo wrote:I think that only 4-6 humans who wrote in politic! And forum has over 4000 users!!!
Thereare about 30-40 people who come here on a regular basis so those 4-6 individuals are quite a big minority. :)
The rest are spammers. :D
Rest are spammers because they don't like politics!
Why don't we just make discussion where those 30-40 humans can say their opinion?
But NO politic, it's too much politics in News allready, when I need politic I watch it on TV and that's enough!
Simple solution, don't click on the political threads:D No one is making you or obliging you to!
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Post by miditek » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:56 pm

Carcass wrote:Oh and those political topics happen to be pretty famous, mind you. Even a member of Stratovarius have participated in the discussions. Oh yeah, shit, he's not Finnish... fuck... maybe he should be sacked from the band. Wait a minute, their drummer is not Finnish either...There is room for everybody here, don't you think?
If that member of Stratovarius that you mentioned decides to run for political office, (mayor of New York, his adopted hometown, for instance), then that would be at least one democrat that I'd probably vote for. :D
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Post by Stratofanius » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:22 pm

I'm not a fan of these boring political discussions either :roll:

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Post by browneyedgirl » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:54 pm

Stratofanius wrote:I'm not a fan of these boring political discussions either :roll:
Well, people can discuss stuff all they want&ultimately it never changes the shape of things to come. But, discussion can be a release valve to get stuff off your chest that maybe is bothering you, or just giving your opinion of the situation.
Politics is serious, however. This process is what chooses the leaders of tomorrow---leaders which can make the future a better place, or destroy it completely!
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Post by StratoTimo » Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:21 pm

I Think that Bush, Image Clinton or who ever decides that they will not make any wars ok. But it's not enogh!
Any Presidents can't stop ANY wars in this planet!
Peace is nice thing but it's impossible make peace to whole planet.
AND BTW: I haven't vote any president or any politician ever, thay can't ever do what they promise!
And what about US presindent Bush?
How much he can make for non-war planet?
Then US Soldiers haven't shoot any other soldiers or civilians?
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Post by Stratofanius » Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:08 pm

The only political point that I wanna discuss is how much US goverment sucks, but I'm too lazy. So never-fucking-mind.

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Post by Equinox » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:26 am

Stratofanius wrote:The only political point that I wanna discuss is how much US goverment sucks, but I'm too lazy. So never-fucking-mind.
Hey! I'm in.

Whenever you want buddy.

I usually spend at least 30 minutes daily talking about that topic anyway. :)
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Post by NeonVomit » Wed Jan 24, 2007 11:49 am

Stratofanius wrote:The only political point that I wanna discuss is how much US goverment sucks, but I'm too lazy. So never-fucking-mind.
Most governments suck. The US govt does not have exclusivity on that commodity, although they sometimes hog it quite badly...
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Post by miditek » Wed Jan 24, 2007 1:06 pm

Can't wait to see Hillary back in her Mao monkey suit, which for her is the ultimate fashion statement, once the Dhimmicrat primary officially kicks off. :D
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miditek wrote:Can't wait to see Hillary back in her Mao monkey suit, which for her is the ultimate fashion statement, once the Dhimmicrat primary officially kicks off. :D
If it's her v.s. McCain, I think the elections will be something like watching a trainwreck.

I don't know who I dislike more.
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