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Hi everybody!

My name is David, I'm new on this forum. I am 17 years old, from Argentina, and i would like to learn to speak and read Suomen Kieli.
I think there's a lot of people here who speaks that tongue, since this forum is from Finland, so I'm waiting for someone to let me know something

Cya!

I don't speak Finnish, pero si querés te enseño un poco de castellano fierita.

Jajaja, no me va a hacer falta por ahora xD

You have a private teacher right here, if you rent me a flat in Bariloche and pay me a salary suitable for my education.

OMFG! Spanish here! D:
Everybody here speaks spanish and Finnish
Te enseño español mexicano xD

OMG! I would also like to learn Finnish, but I think it will take a life to learn a bit! I think I'm already a bit late...

Puedo enseñaros el francés
Anyway, me gustaría también aprender Suomi, pero para el momento inglés, castellano y alemán, con un poco de noruego bastan!
Seriously, Finnish seems to be a very interesting language to learn.

eagledreamr wrote:Puedo enseñaros el francés
Anyway, me gustaría también aprender Suomi, pero para el momento inglés, castellano y alemán, con un poco de noruego bastan!
Seriously, Finnish seems to be a very interesting language to learn.

And very complicated too...I think children will learn how to read, write and speak at the age of...10???

No, Timo K just finished to discover all the misteries of his language, now he can read and write perfectly !

Lurdi wrote:

eagledreamr wrote:Puedo enseñaros el francés
Anyway, me gustaría también aprender Suomi, pero para el momento inglés, castellano y alemán, con un poco de noruego bastan!
Seriously, Finnish seems to be a very interesting language to learn.

And very complicated too...I think children will learn how to read, write and speak at the age of...10???

Nah, kids learn to write and read faster than in English-speaking countries. Finnish is a very simple language to write and read. Easier than Spanish. No tricks, no special rules.

The grammar might be a bit tricky for you, though. And the vowels: a, e, i, o, u, y, ä, ö. I know some Spaniards who have studied Finnish, it's quite easy for them to get the pronunciation right.

Here's a tip about learning finnish: Don't.

Learn a language that's not that complicated and/or that's not used by mere 5 million people in the world.

Why not? it would be fun!

Mormegil wrote:Here's a tip about learning finnish: Don't.

Learn a language that's not that complicated and/or that's not used by mere 5 million people in the world.

If I want to learn a language, it's for how does it sounds, not for how hard it seems nor how many people use it.
Also I already speak spanish, english and italian, so I would like to learn another one just for fun.
The sound of the vowels is the same than spanish ones, excepting y, ä and ö, but I already learned its pronunciation, so all that lasts is grammar and vocabulary. Kiitos

Näkemiin

Luinedhel wrote:

Mormegil wrote:Here's a tip about learning finnish: Don't.

Learn a language that's not that complicated and/or that's not used by mere 5 million people in the world.

If I want to learn a language, it's for how does it sounds, not for how hard it seems nor how many people use it.
Also I already speak spanish, english and italian, so I would like to learn another one just for fun.
The sound of the vowels is the same than spanish ones, excepting y, ä and ö, but I already learned its pronunciation, so all that lasts is grammar and vocabulary. Kiitos

Näkemiin

Fair enough if you like it. It just seems like awful waste of time for someone as lazy as me.

Te enseño castellano verdadero (Chileno)
I don't know Suomi, but you can go to that Finnish section!

Eso es cualquier cosa.
Please try to reply in english, so everybody can understand. The finnish section is meant to native speakers of finnish, I can´t uderstand it yet!
Again, if anyone can give me just an orientation, i'd be thanked for the help.

Kuulemiin!

well, you can ask them in English and maybe more than one person will reply. I'm pretty sure there are English speakers in the Finnish section. Give it a shot!

Kaunista päivää kaikille!

I learn the Finnish language recently.
Many people said it that heavy. Though not.

Luinedhel wrote:Eso es cualquier cosa.
Please try to reply in english, so everybody can understand. The finnish section is meant to native speakers of finnish, I can´t uderstand it yet!
Again, if anyone can give me just an orientation, i'd be thanked for the help.

Kuulemiin!

Learn to internet!

http://www.google.fi/search?q=learn+fin ... =firefox-a

Three links from the first page:
http://oppiminen.yle.fi/easyfinnish/
http://www.finnishschool.com/
http://www.unforgettablelanguages.com/frames_a14.html

(Most of the vowels are indeed the same as in Spanish, but when you actually try to speak Finnish it might not be that easy with two [or three, in fact, the Spanish Y is not a vowel; in Swedish there is one more: Å] extra vowels)

Mormegil wrote:Here's a tip about learning finnish: Don't.

Learn a language that's not that complicated and/or that's not used by mere 5 million people in the world.

That's what makes a language even more interesting, Carcass. Nowadays learning English is not something exceptional, not even for those countries such as Germany, Sweden, Finland...The vast majority of you speak English. Here in Spain the thing is quite different. You have to take into account that we have everything translated into Spanish. People are not used to listen to the English language unless you really want to and as a consequence you have to do everything on your own.
I believe all languages are important in the whole world, no matter how many speakers it has. Learning languages is always beautiful. You realise how different speakers understand the same things in a different way, different concepts.

By the way, when and how do you start learning English in Finland or any other country? How's the process? I am really interested in this.

Luinedhel wrote:

Mormegil wrote:Here's a tip about learning finnish: Don't.

Learn a language that's not that complicated and/or that's not used by mere 5 million people in the world.

If I want to learn a language, it's for how does it sounds, not for how hard it seems nor how many people use it.
Also I already speak spanish, english and italian, so I would like to learn another one just for fun.
The sound of the vowels is the same than spanish ones, excepting y, ä and ö, but I already learned its pronunciation, so all that lasts is grammar and vocabulary. Kiitos

Näkemiin

Well, grammar and vocabulary is always the hardest part. That is actually the crux of the matter.
And practice is always really important, but how can somebody practice a very different language such as Finnish, Swedish...You have two options: 1 Go to that very country to learn it or practice it 2 Get a native boyfriend/girlfriend

I can't understand this topic. If you wanna learn a language, what's the point of being here saying "I wanna learn suomi". If you wanna learn suomi, then go to learn it in some academy or something.

I think I'm gonna make a topic called: "I wanna learn to play the keyboard like Jens Johansson".

RazielSR wrote:I can't understand this topic. If you wanna learn a language, what's the point of being here saying "I wanna learn suomi". If you wanna learn suomi, then go to learn it in some academy or something.

As usual, for any curious Finnish dilettantes, I can but proffer my own shitty online translation tool:

http://jens.org/finx/

http://jens.org/finx/ wrote:tsekki
chech

:pissed2: :pissed2:

hahahaha that translation tool is wonderful. I will use it for Kotipelto guestbook (you know, there are a lot of finnish people talking with Kotipelto in soumi and it seems they hide something!! )

Mormegil wrote:Here's a tip about learning finnish: Don't.

Learn a language that's not that complicated and/or that's not used by mere 5 million people in the world.

Then how do you explain Mandarin? 2 billion people talk that language and it seems very complicated!

As usual, for any curious Finnish dilettantes, I can but proffer my own shitty online translation tool:

http://jens.org/finx/

That's useful too, thanks.

I can't understand this topic. If you wanna learn a language, what's the point of being here saying "I wanna learn suomi". If you wanna learn suomi, then go to learn it in some academy or something.

There is a point, you can see I live in Argentina, And as you can imagine, the chair where I'm sitting in is over 20.000 km from Finland, so it's a little journey. Also, there aren't much finnish people here.
Maybe in Buenos Aires, but not too much indeed (Unless you want me to learn it from Tarja Turunen Herself), but here in my hometown there simply aren't finnish people, and an academy of finnish is simply something unthinkable. So i decided to make a mate in internet. It's not to weird, I think.

Learn to internet!

http://www.google.fi/search?q=learn+fin ... =firefox-a

Three links from the first page:
http://oppiminen.yle.fi/easyfinnish/
http://www.finnishschool.com/
http://www.unforgettablelanguages.com/frames_a14.html

(Most of the vowels are indeed the same as in Spanish, but when you actually try to speak Finnish it might not be that easy with two [or three, in fact, the Spanish Y is not a vowel; in Swedish there is one more: Å] extra vowels)

Thank you very much. I think it will help me a lot, but it would be better if I could talk to any finnish too, so I could check if I am progressing. You can give me your E-Mail adress, and if you want, I can ask you some things, and so...

Näkemiin!

JensJohansson wrote:
As usual, for any curious Finnish dilettantes, I can but proffer my own shitty online translation tool:

http://jens.org/finx/

Amazing tool !

JensJohansson wrote: As usual, for any curious Finnish dilettantes, I can but proffer my own shitty online translation tool:

http://jens.org/finx/

D: Wow
There is a translator of: Spanish to Finnish D:

Si, pero el traductor esta desde hace poco! Lo se porque antes ya me habia fijado y no estaba jaja

Suomi seems to be difficult, but besides Spanish, I speak Armenian, and you have to see THAT, it's symbols, first you have to learn how to draw them ...
It's a beautiful language, I've learnt to speak and write in Armenian at school, so I can do it pretty well. I was born here in Buenos Aires, Argentina, but my roots are in Armenia.