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JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:35 pm
by RazielSR
TimoTolkki on RR forum wrote: With great pleasure I can announce that Jari Kainulainen is joining me, Tuomo Lassila and Antti Ikonen for "Return to Dreamspace" album that is due out later in this fall.
This means that the line-up is exactly the same than in the original Stratovarius album "Dreamspace" that was released in 1994.
http://www.revolution-renaissance.com/f ... f=11&t=251

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 6:36 pm
by DayDreamer
The Dreamspace line up?? The same as in 94???
Holy Shit! Thats gonna be awesome!

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:57 pm
by _Pepe_
nicee!!!!!!!!
its good to see this line-up again :D

one thing... i think mr tolkki go back to old stuffs because all his new ideas don't work...

good luck with this new proyect...

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 9:28 pm
by hiro23
_Pepe_ wrote:nicee!!!!!!!!
its good to see this line-up again :D

one thing... i think mr tolkki go back to old stuffs because all his new ideas don't work...

good luck with this new proyect...
I agree that it's great news Jari is coming back to the fold however I think Tolkki's new direction is fine and I have no problem with it, he had this idea in the works before he even did the new RR album, I mean it's fine if you don't like it however don't assume he's only doing it to cash in on former glory.

That being said I think it's great we are getting the old Dreamspace line up, I have high hopes for this new album.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:06 pm
by stormbringer78
This is fucking great.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:58 pm
by Ragehead91
_Pepe_ wrote:nicee!!!!!!!!
its good to see this line-up again :D

one thing... i think mr tolkki go back to old stuffs because all his new ideas don't work...

good luck with this new proyect...
+1

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:41 am
by NightScreamer
wow.. i'll definitely pick that up, i just hope to odin that they don't try to name themselves Stratovarius...

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:53 am
by stratoleo
waoooo very cool!!

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 12:56 am
by NeverendingAbyss
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!
:o

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:15 am
by Ragehead91
NightScreamer wrote:wow.. i'll definitely pick that up, i just hope to odin that they don't try to name themselves Stratovarius...
I think now that Tolkki and Strato seem to talk again that won't happen.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:22 am
by icecab21
he said they won't have name conflicts.
one thing... i think mr tolkki go back to old stuffs because all his new ideas don't work...
I don't think tolkki bases his life on whether a few people like his songs or not.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:35 pm
by a_Sniper
So we get Two Strato album, one with new and one with classic line up this year.. :D And AoA from RR already.. then even "Jani's Offering" band with TK... This is so amazing year! :D

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 3:40 pm
by stratodan1990
this will be an amazing comeback, I love dreamspace, however..i'm very confused. How can tolkki name it as Stratovarius if he waivered all his rights? How does this work? Will it be a new band name? or maybe RR? :?: :?

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 4:49 pm
by Ragehead91
stratodan1990 wrote:this will be an amazing comeback, I love dreamspace, however..i'm very confused. How can tolkki name it as Stratovarius if he waivered all his rights? How does this work? Will it be a new band name? or maybe RR? :?: :?
He already said that he won't call the project "Stratovarius". As far as I know he wants the fans to decide the name.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:22 pm
by TimoTolkki
stratodan1990 wrote:this will be an amazing comeback, I love dreamspace, however..i'm very confused. How can tolkki name it as Stratovarius if he waivered all his rights? How does this work? Will it be a new band name? or maybe RR? :?: :?
It will not be called "Stratovarius" because that would be wrong towards the current line-up. Stratovarius as a band has always evolved, no matter what people say and Polaris is still evolving that sound. There is a lot of geniusness in the new line up and TK, Jens and Jörg with me worked their asses off for over 10 years for the success of the band so it is as much their name than it is mine. I am very proud of those years together.
Blabbermouth is sometimes writing from a "sensational" angle and "Return to Dreamspace" is not a "closure of Strato". I think Stratovarius is alive and well.
It is just a "get together" album with old friends and making some...you know guys and girls...music.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:24 pm
by stratohawk
TimoTolkki wrote: It is just a "get together" album with old friends and making some...you know guys and girls...music.
And that's fucking awesome! 8) I think everyone is looking forward to that as well!

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 5:42 pm
by stratodan1990
TimoTolkki wrote:
stratodan1990 wrote:this will be an amazing comeback, I love dreamspace, however..i'm very confused. How can tolkki name it as Stratovarius if he waivered all his rights? How does this work? Will it be a new band name? or maybe RR? :?: :?
It will not be called "Stratovarius" because that would be wrong towards the current line-up. Stratovarius as a band has always evolved, no matter what people say and Polaris is still evolving that sound. There is a lot of geniusness in the new line up and TK, Jens and Jörg with me worked their asses off for over 10 years for the success of the band so it is as much their name than it is mine. I am very proud of those years together.
Blabbermouth is sometimes writing from a "sensational" angle and "Return to Dreamspace" is not a "closure of Strato". I think Stratovarius is alive and well.
It is just a "get together" album with old friends and making some...you know guys and girls...music.
I see.. thanks for explaining this :) and no, no album could be a close of Strato, because Strato will live FOREVER :D I look forward to the release

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:02 pm
by NightScreamer
They should be called NIGHT SCREAMER, a song from their old albums

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:07 pm
by DayDreamer
NightScreamer wrote:They should be called NIGHT SCREAMER, a song from their old albums
Naah that's an awful name!
Twilight time would be cool!

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:46 pm
by hiro23
why not just return to Dreamspace with no band name, I think that would be pretty cool

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 8:50 pm
by Ragehead91
hiro23 wrote:why not just return to Dreamspace with no band name, I think that would be pretty cool
+1

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:21 pm
by Burning Reflection
I agree with TT and it's awesome to see how clear headed and mellow everyone is towards each other these days. In the end these are just people and bands making music and were getting a lot more of it! Viva Stratovarius, RR and the new dreamspace!

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:33 pm
by Ragehead91
Burning Reflection wrote:I agree with TT and it's awesome to see how clear headed and mellow everyone is towards each other these days. In the end these are just people and bands making music and were getting a lot more of it! Viva Stratovarius, RR and the new dreamspace!
And don't forget Cain's Offering! :o

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:28 am
by hiro23
as I said before this year is going to kick ass

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:05 am
by icecab21
such ear candy coming up
candy cain's offering
candy stratovarius
candy return to dreamspace

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:50 pm
by Beast_Pete
Good to hear that this is working out. But I don't wish good luck... I wish creativity and inspiration. :)

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:42 pm
by hiro23
Those are good things to wish for

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:16 am
by Lurdi
icecab21 wrote:he said they won't have name conflicts.
one thing... i think mr tolkki go back to old stuffs because all his new ideas don't work...
I don't think tolkki bases his life on whether a few people like his songs or not.
Of course it's a part of his life. Those who say they don't care whether their music like people or not, of course they are lying, otherwise they would just write and compose music for themselves to listen and play at home withous sharing it with anybody. That is ridiculous.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:25 am
by Ragehead91
Lurdi wrote:
icecab21 wrote:he said they won't have name conflicts.
one thing... i think mr tolkki go back to old stuffs because all his new ideas don't work...
I don't think tolkki bases his life on whether a few people like his songs or not.
Of course it's a part of his life. Those who say they don't care whether their music like people or not, of course they are lying, otherwise they would just write and compose music for themselves to listen and play at home withous sharing it with anybody. That is ridiculous.
It is the same thing like with those guys who say thery don't do it for the money. Everyone who says that is a lair. We all have bills to pay.

Re: JARI KAINULAINEN in RETURN TO DREAMSPACE

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 12:38 am
by TimoTolkki
Lurdi wrote:
icecab21 wrote:he said they won't have name conflicts.
one thing... i think mr tolkki go back to old stuffs because all his new ideas don't work...
I don't think tolkki bases his life on whether a few people like his songs or not.
Of course it's a part of his life. Those who say they don't care whether their music like people or not, of course they are lying, otherwise they would just write and compose music for themselves to listen and play at home withous sharing it with anybody. That is ridiculous.
Of course I am lying. That's why I wrote albums like "Saana" and "Hymn to Life" or we did "Age of Aquarius" although we could have "planned" a power metal band. Instead of that, the music took its course despite what anyone would say so sorry but at least in my and AoA:s case you are wrong.:)
Also I dont think that Lauri Porra or Timo Kotipelto are sitting at home with calculators and notebooks planning "what kind of music people want to hear". It simply becomes what it becomes.
This is not to take away the fact that its a great honor when a fan buys your cd or concert ticket. But if the artist is planning the music in accordance to what is people's taste then in my opinion this is not good. But that's just what I think.