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THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 1:31 am
by Ragehead91
Finnish metallers THUNDERSTONE will release their fifth studio album, "Dirt Metal", on September 9 via Sony Music Finland. A video for the CD's first single, "I Almighty", was recently filmed and is expected to make its online debut later this summer.

"Dirt Metal" track listing:

01. Rebirth
02. I Almighty
03. Dirt Metal
04. Star
05. Ghosts Of Youth
06. Counting Hours
07. Dodge The Bullet
08. Deadlights
09. At The Feet Of Fools
10. Suffering Songs

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Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:14 am
by mayhem-for-all
thats GREAT.
sounds incredible.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:31 pm
by Intiaani
Luckily I don't even have to bother to do topics of my favorite bands as we have our Ragehead91 for it. Now, I'm a huge fan, I could say! ^^

I love the fact how they've slidden away from power metal all the time, finding their own style, which undeniably really is something new. Heavy/groove/power... I don't know what it is, but it sounds rusty, not in a bad way. Dirty. The name for the new record is perfect!

Evolution 4.0 had its completely own sound, and according to the new songs Star and I Almighty I've listened to a lot of times via Spotify, this sound pretty much remains. According to these two new songs, the style isn't changing too much anymore. Although I've heard from a reviewer, who has the promo version, that it will be even more groovy and dirty and heavy than before. That's NOT bad news! I really loved Evolution 4.0 and its originality, and I'd hope they can achieve something as great with Dirt Metal. Even though I don't believe they can.

Of the new songs, Star was mediocre, kinda bad, actually, I found no common thread on that song, it was a bit splintery. I didn't like I Almighty at first, either, but now it would make to Evolution 4.0 with ease. It reminds me of the songs The Source, Solid Ground, 10,000 Ways and Down with Me a little, and the kind of slow ending after yet another short and catchy, personal Laurenne guitar solo we didn't hear on Evolution at all, except on some slow parts on Down with Me and on the Forevermore Eurovision qualifying semi finals edit.

What I thought was absolutely the worst thing on the album, the absence of the singer Pasi Rantanen and keyboardist Kari Tornack, won't be that bad after all. I never liked Rick Altzi as he was a wannabe replacer of Oliver Hartmann in At Vance, as a singer such as Olli can't possibly be replaced, and the fact that apparently Altzi was in the stealing process of the song "Shiver" from a Finnish band a few years back. But, after listening to expecially I Almighty a couple of times, and seeing some recording video footage on Thunderstone.org, turns out he has a really ballsy and powerful heavy metal voice after all. And I mean Patrik Johansson / Jorn Lande-esque strong. Maybe even stronger than Pasi himself, although never that personal (good)! :D Those Scandinavian guys just tend to have those awesome vocalists... also there are of course Hansi Kürsch and our own Marco Hietala as well. :)

As for the new keyboardist, Jukka Karinen, I don't know the guy yet. I just fear he developes a similar style to Tornack's. Tornack wasn't the best (as in quickest ;I) keyboardist there was, but he replaced that speed with his personal, pleasant solos heard especially on the album The Burning. The solos of Evil Within might still be his quickest and possibly best performance ever, though... if Jens didn't play them or something. :lol: Can't bother to look at the credits for that. Anyway, I hope that Karinen guy manages to bring something new to the band still, although they are unique enough even if he can't.

The Burning > Evolution 4.0 > Tools of Destruction / Thunderstone

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 4:46 pm
by Ragehead91
I never thought that Altzi was a Hartmann Wannabe. I think his voice is very different compared to Hartmann's voice. I would say he is more of an Mats Leven Wanabe and at times even a Jorn Lande Wanabe. But not as bad as Bjorn Johansson from Ride the Sky though.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:11 pm
by Intiaani
I first read "Bjorn Jansson" (Beyond Twilight among others, or ex such, I don't know). He's very good raw metal voice ála Jorn, Rick.

And no, not a Hartmann wannabe. I guess I got some of my meanings wrong as I wrote my message pretty fast and enthusiastically. I just listed some things there quickly. It's just that Rick replaced Olli, who can't be replaced. He's just that damn good. ;D Put Altzi, no matter how good a singer, in a very difficult position, on my view anyway, to fill too big boots, so to speak. Hopefully this clears up my meaning. :)

To add to my first post, there was a time I didn't believe I even want to listen to the upcoming Dirt Metal. But luckily, I got my prejudices about the new bandmates out of the way and actually concentrated on listening to I Almighty instead of just finding its flaws. This happens very rarely if I decide not to like something. D: I thought Altzi as some Rantanen wannabe, of course, since I had only heard some remakes from some old Thunderstone songs sang by the Swede. His timing was different, and he tried to sing it such that it still was near Pasi. But as far as I can say, he's completely his own self on I Almighty, and that, I like, after all, no matter if he's a thief or something. :D He's a good singer, and as fitting to TS as any other than Rantanen would be, and that's what counts. And I'm buying the record! ^.^

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:26 pm
by Intiaani
Sorry for the double post, but I didn't mind editing my previous as there's always a chance it would go unseen. About the cover...

I don't like it. I think there's about nothing Thunderstone in it. The I Almighty single cover (seen on http://www.thunderstone.org) is great, some great colors - always thought orange and blue is a good combo for some reason - and that kind of picture is familiar to us all the way from The Burning. Also supports the website's color theme, which is nice. And maybe it symbolizes that the new line-up still has the flame of passion, or something. ;)

Btw, to have some more discussion, do you guys still think they're power metal? I definitely think not. Thunderstone was a power metal album all the way, but The Burning already slid away from that direction. There were only a few power metal(-y) songs on Tools anymore, and I can't find any power metal on Evolution, really, other than bits of 10,000 Ways maybe.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:00 pm
by Ragehead91
Intiaani wrote:I first read "Bjorn Jansson" (Beyond Twilight among others, or ex such, I don't know). He's very good raw metal voice ála Jorn, Rick.

And no, not a Hartmann wannabe. I guess I got some of my meanings wrong as I wrote my message pretty fast and enthusiastically. I just listed some things there quickly. It's just that Rick replaced Olli, who can't be replaced. He's just that damn good. ;D Put Altzi, no matter how good a singer, in a very difficult position, on my view anyway, to fill too big boots, so to speak. Hopefully this clears up my meaning. :)
Hartmann can be replaced. And he was replaced by both Mats Leven and Rick Altzi and both did an amazing job. Especially Leven.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:21 pm
by Intiaani
Ragehead91 wrote:
Intiaani wrote:I first read "Bjorn Jansson" (Beyond Twilight among others, or ex such, I don't know). He's very good raw metal voice ála Jorn, Rick.

And no, not a Hartmann wannabe. I guess I got some of my meanings wrong as I wrote my message pretty fast and enthusiastically. I just listed some things there quickly. It's just that Rick replaced Olli, who can't be replaced. He's just that damn good. ;D Put Altzi, no matter how good a singer, in a very difficult position, on my view anyway, to fill too big boots, so to speak. Hopefully this clears up my meaning. :)
Hartmann can be replaced. And he was replaced by both Mats Leven and Rick Altzi and both did an amazing job. Especially Leven.
No, he can't. You're wrong, and I'm right. It's that simple.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:30 pm
by Ragehead91
Intiaani wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:
Intiaani wrote:I first read "Bjorn Jansson" (Beyond Twilight among others, or ex such, I don't know). He's very good raw metal voice ála Jorn, Rick.

And no, not a Hartmann wannabe. I guess I got some of my meanings wrong as I wrote my message pretty fast and enthusiastically. I just listed some things there quickly. It's just that Rick replaced Olli, who can't be replaced. He's just that damn good. ;D Put Altzi, no matter how good a singer, in a very difficult position, on my view anyway, to fill too big boots, so to speak. Hopefully this clears up my meaning. :)
Hartmann can be replaced. And he was replaced by both Mats Leven and Rick Altzi and both did an amazing job. Especially Leven.
No, he can't. You're wrong, and I'm right. It's that simple.
But he was. Mats Leven replaces him from 2003 to 2006 and Rick Altzi replaces him from 2006 until now. And both do, or in Leven's case did, a amazing job.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:54 am
by Arkash
Seems pretty good, gotta check that out!

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:01 pm
by mayhem-for-all
Tero of MFF gave it 9/10 :shock:

Suffering song is 8 minute epic :D

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:20 pm
by Rage1979
Great! I love this band!

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 6:22 am
by fernandotcl
That song is really a step up compared to The Star. I don't expect the whole album to be like that, though. I really liked their early albums, and to me Evolution 4.0 was such a big letdown. I'm pretty sure that now that Pasi left things will go downhill, as I stated in another thread about Thunderstone in this forum.

It's too bad, decent power metal albums are hard to come by these days, don't know what the hell is going on. Thunderstone was a perfect match to my tastes, and now it's turned into something else which I have a really hard time digesting.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2009 7:46 am
by mayhem-for-all
fernandotcl wrote:That song is really a step up compared to The Star. I don't expect the whole album to be like that, though. I really liked their early albums, and to me Evolution 4.0 was such a big letdown. I'm pretty sure that now that Pasi left things will go downhill, as I stated in another thread about Thunderstone in this forum.

It's too bad, decent power metal albums are hard to come by these days, don't know what the hell is going on. Thunderstone was a perfect match to my tastes, and now it's turned into something else which I have a really hard time digesting.
For me it is another way around.
They are reaching for perfect.
I don't care for the debut.
Well it's OK but Evolution was their biggest creation until now.
WE will see how Dirt Metal fits in but I already learned to like Star.

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:32 pm
by Ragehead91
Can someone tell me what's going on? I can't find that album anywhere! Neither in record stores nor on the Internet. Was the release pushed back?

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:21 pm
by Tema
Ragehead91 wrote:Can someone tell me what's going on? I can't find that album anywhere! Neither in record stores nor on the Internet. Was the release pushed back?
Don't think so. It is widely awailable in stores here in Finland, don't know about other countries though. The full album can be found in Spotify also. Surprising, that no one has uploaded it in the internet yet...

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:55 pm
by mayhem-for-all
Ragehead91 wrote:Can someone tell me what's going on? I can't find that album anywhere! Neither in record stores nor on the Internet. Was the release pushed back?
I have already seen it in a supermarket :shock:
It is quite well available.
and Sounds just awesome.
I just love the new album already.
I won't compare it to the old stuff but on it's own it is already something great.
(BTW Pasi was in the Tv the other day)

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 3:09 pm
by Ragehead91
Tema wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:Can someone tell me what's going on? I can't find that album anywhere! Neither in record stores nor on the Internet. Was the release pushed back?
Don't think so. It is widely awailable in stores here in Finland, don't know about other countries though. The full album can be found in Spotify also. Surprising, that no one has uploaded it in the internet yet...
Well, here in Germany I can't find it and it also isn't on the internet. Shit. I want to listen to it!

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:08 pm
by Intiaani
mayhem-for-all wrote:
I have already seen it in a supermarket :shock:
It is quite well available.
and Sounds just awesome.
Yes. Like Evolution 4.0, it continues to have a soundscape like of which I've never heard before, completely unique! It isn't even the same as in 4.0 - it's even dirtier. ;)
mayhem-for-all wrote: I just love the new album already.
No. Not yet anyway. :( It's good though. Time will tell more. >: D I can't really say anything else about it but I was surprised how easy it was to listen. I had problems with I Almighty and Star already in the beginning - maybe they let me understand the rest of the album once I got it though. It was clear right in the first listen that this album is a) heavy and b) angsty as fuck! :lol: They mean business with it. Also they keep it simple - or so it seems. There are many things hidden under that rough surface I hope. :D So far my favorites are Ghosts of Youth, Suffering Song, I Almighty and, :SHOCKSHOCK:, even Star, the song that was a complete letdown for me at first. It's just that damn crunch; that's all there is to it! :D
mayhem-for-all wrote:(BTW Pasi was in the Tv the other day)
Yes. If you refer to that Tartu mikkiin program re-run, I know what you're talking about. Turns out that Pasi was a bit frozen though and/or didn't know much of the songs or just didn't want to show off. :D

By the way, I'm not really sure, but, wasn't the 9th just a Finnish release date?

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:20 pm
by mayhem-for-all
Yes Star was a let down but now even I like it.
It is not especially good but it is nice and by no means bad. :wink:

Re: THUNDERSTONE: New Album Artwork, Track Listing Revealed

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:02 pm
by Ragehead91
I just read in the Thunderstone forum that for the time being this is a Finnland only release and that they don't have a release date for Europe yet. Bullshit.