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Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:07 pm
by JensJohansson
No, it's not the name of some Norwegian metal band...
RIYADH (Reuters) - A Saudi court of cassation upheld a ruling to behead and crucify a 22-year-old man convicted of raping five children and leaving one of them to die in the desert, newspapers reported on Tuesday.
The convict was arrested earlier this year after a seven-year old boy helped police in their investigation. The child left in the desert after the rape was three years old, Okaz newspaper said.
International rights groups have accused the kingdom, the birthplace of Islam, of applying draconian justice, beheading murderers, rapists and drug traffickers in public. So far this year about 40 people have been executed in Saudi Arabia.
In Saudi Arabia, crucifixion means tying the body of the convict to wooden beams to be displayed to the public after beheading.
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews ... 9120091103
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:18 pm
by Avatar Thief
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:55 am
by Carcass
Because that is what Jesus would do.
EDIT: Fuck you, Avatar Thief.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:11 am
by miditek
From what little I know about Saudi executions, the beheading probably went pretty quickly- much more so than the pain he inflicted on those kids, and not to mention leaving one in the desert to die.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:09 am
by Rebel
I just got an image in my head of pedobear, beheaded, on a crucifix.
I just died a little bit.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:35 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
I guess I would vote no...obviously you have to be totally insane to do what he did. With that said, there is little point in torturing someone for having a mental illness. It would be different (maybe) if his crime was a calculated risk, like robbing a bank. Or raping a horse.
miditek wrote:From what little I know about Saudi executions, the beheading probably went pretty quickly- much more so than the pain he inflicted on those kids, and not to mention leaving one in the desert to die.
That's true, but I don't really follow the argument that any punishment is ok as long as it isn't more severe than the crime. That would be like burning down an arsonists house, just because we can.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:38 am
by icecab21
death by horse cock
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:51 am
by NeonVomit
icecab21 wrote:death by horse cock
Perhaps that would fit the crime... I don't know.
Saudi Arabia is still stuck in the 1700's when it comes to such issues.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:42 pm
by Shurik
NeonVomit wrote:icecab21 wrote:death by horse cock
Perhaps that would fit the crime... I don't know.
Saudi Arabia is still stuck in the 1700's when it comes to such issues.
But it really progressed to 1800s' in other issues, like women's rights ... In about 100 years they'll be really progressive.
The much better punishment would be a castration and then letting him go, together with publishing his picture on every lamppost.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:54 pm
by NeonVomit
Shurik wrote:NeonVomit wrote:icecab21 wrote:death by horse cock
Perhaps that would fit the crime... I don't know.
Saudi Arabia is still stuck in the 1700's when it comes to such issues.
But it really progressed to 1800s' in other issues, like women's rights ... In about 100 years they'll be really progressive.
The much better punishment would be a castration and then letting him go, together with publishing his picture on every lamppost.
Trust me, I lived there for 9 years as a child due to my dad's work... not a very pleasant place I must say.
See, that's the thing... for me, it's about as horrible as a crime can be. I really have a sensitive spot for crimes that involve children. What punishment does fit this crime? Instinct says things like castration, stoning, etc. On the other hand, we are a civilised, modern society and should not forget that.
I'm glad I'm not getting into criminal law other than the basics in my studies. In my view, it's by far the most difficult area of the legal profession.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:43 pm
by icecab21
was he charged as kidnapping for these? seems like it would be 5 rapes, 5 kidnappings, and 1 murder so in the usa he would get life in ail or death or some 500 year sentence or so
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:06 pm
by Ragehead91
Rebel wrote:I just got an image in my head of pedobear, beheaded, on a crucifix.
I just died a little bit.
I feel so dirty for laughing about that
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:48 pm
by NeonVomit
icecab21 wrote:was he charged as kidnapping for these? seems like it would be 5 rapes, 5 kidnappings, and 1 murder so in the usa he would get life in ail or death or some 500 year sentence or so
I don't think the criminal justice system in Saudi Arabia bothers to deal with lesser crimes if someone's already committed a big one. What are they going to do, imprison the corpse?
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:50 pm
by icecab21
now jailing a corpse would make jail a more interesting place
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:18 am
by Rebel
Ragehead91 wrote:Rebel wrote:I just got an image in my head of pedobear, beheaded, on a crucifix.
I just died a little bit.
I feel so dirty for laughing about that
Am I a terrible person for carving a pedobear pumpkin?
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:25 am
by icecab21
yes
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:41 am
by Rebel
icecab21 wrote:yes
Yeah, I figured as much, but it had to be done.
I mean come on, little kids dressing up and getting free candy? Pedobear would be ALL. OVER. THAT. SHIT.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:20 pm
by Burning Reflection
I don't think a public beheading should even be considered legal, but the guy definitely deserves an ass kicking or long jail time.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:19 pm
by NeonVomit
Burning Reflection wrote:I don't think a public beheading should even be considered legal, but the guy definitely deserves an ass kicking or long jail time.
Yes, but it's the same as saying 'They really shouldn't have burned people suspected of witchcraft in the 1500's'.
The Saudi Arabian legal system likes to think that it's in the middle ages.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:44 pm
by Lightyear
NeonVomit wrote:Burning Reflection wrote:I don't think a public beheading should even be considered legal, but the guy definitely deserves an ass kicking or long jail time.
Yes, but it's the same as saying 'They really shouldn't have burned people suspected of witchcraft in the 1500's'.
The Saudi Arabian legal system likes to think that it's in the middle ages.
True... The Saudi Arabian system is from the middle ages, or even before that, like cutting off the hands of thieves (even petty thieves!), and as if that's not bad enough, they do it without proper trial (only 4 witnesses required).
However, do you think you wouldn't feel urges to kill somebody if they raped YOUR child ? or left YOUR child in the desert to die ? Would you then agree with the Saudi legal system, or the European legal system (a pat on the head, and a few years in prison, and useless attempts to make that individual capable of being amongst society again ?? )
Just some thoughts I wanted to throw in the air in hopes of a civilized discussion..
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:46 pm
by Lightyear
Lightyear wrote:NeonVomit wrote:Burning Reflection wrote:I don't think a public beheading should even be considered legal, but the guy definitely deserves an ass kicking or long jail time.
Yes, but it's the same as saying 'They really shouldn't have burned people suspected of witchcraft in the 1500's'.
The Saudi Arabian legal system likes to think that it's in the middle ages.
True... The Saudi Arabian system is from the middle ages, or even before that, like cutting off the hands of thieves (even petty thieves!), and as if that's not bad enough, they do it without proper trial (only 4 witnesses required).
However, do you think you wouldn't feel urges to kill somebody if they raped YOUR child ? or left YOUR child in the desert to die ? Would you then agree with the Saudi legal system, or the European legal system (a pat on the head, and a few years in prison, and useless attempts to make that individual capable of being amongst society again ?? )
Just some thoughts I wanted to throw in the air in hopes of a civilized discussion..
Hell, I even feel urges to kick someones ass, and punch their face in when they try to hit on my girlfriend (not that I have ever done that)...
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:01 am
by Carcass
Lightyear wrote:Hell, I even feel urges to kick someones ass, and punch their face in when they try to hit on my girlfriend (not that I have ever done that)...
That doesn't mean you should.
Re: Crucified Pedophile
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:36 am
by NeonVomit
Lightyear wrote:NeonVomit wrote:Burning Reflection wrote:I don't think a public beheading should even be considered legal, but the guy definitely deserves an ass kicking or long jail time.
Yes, but it's the same as saying 'They really shouldn't have burned people suspected of witchcraft in the 1500's'.
The Saudi Arabian legal system likes to think that it's in the middle ages.
True... The Saudi Arabian system is from the middle ages, or even before that, like cutting off the hands of thieves (even petty thieves!), and as if that's not bad enough, they do it without proper trial (only 4 witnesses required).
However, do you think you wouldn't feel urges to kill somebody if they raped YOUR child ? or left YOUR child in the desert to die ? Would you then agree with the Saudi legal system, or the European legal system (a pat on the head, and a few years in prison, and useless attempts to make that individual capable of being amongst society again ?? )
Just some thoughts I wanted to throw in the air in hopes of a civilized discussion..
Exactly.
But with the rather glaring inadequacies and lack of transparency in the Saudi legal system, how do we even know that this guy DID commit those crimes? If he didn't, then the real rapist is still out there.
This goes for all other crimes, too.
