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What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:43 pm
by antonio
We know that koti is a great singer...but in your opinion what is the more difficult stratosong?

And to singers: which stratosong can u sing?

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 3:54 pm
by Jaakko
Everyone can sing anything. I mean, how can you tell you're NOT singing the same song and singing it right if you may not be singing in the same key or with the same general style? A bit like guitarists trying to copy someone else's solos and sounds, if it's not out of tune and sounds ok, why not to just use your own style?

But anyway, some songs are more difficult than others if you want to keep up with the long, sustained notes for example, Fantasia is one of these monsters where I find it difficult to do this "let us all unIIIIIte" thing without vibrato. If I'd do a cover of this I'd probably find a more comfortable arrangement.

For register changes, I think the trickiest one for me if Hunting High and Low, dammit, it's working around my passagio most of the time and far from enjoyable to sing. ;)

Generally, Stratostuff is pretty easy to sing, the melodies are simple and there aren't many fast runs and arpeggios ;)

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Fri Jul 09, 2004 7:16 pm
by Luca
Tomorrow is very difficult in my opinion, as well as some others, like Visions (southern cross)...... ;)

Re: Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:03 am
by antonio
Jaakko wrote:
Everyone can sing anything. I mean, how can you tell you're NOT singing the same song and singing it right if you may not be singing in the same key or with the same general style? A bit like guitarists trying to copy someone else's solos and sounds, if it's not out of tune and sounds ok, why not to just use your own style?

But anyway, some songs are more difficult than others if you want to keep up with the long, sustained notes for example, Fantasia is one of these monsters where I find it difficult to do this "let us all unIIIIIte" thing without vibrato. If I'd do a cover of this I'd probably find a more comfortable arrangement.

For register changes, I think the trickiest one for me if Hunting High and Low, dammit, it's working around my passagio most of the time and far from enjoyable to sing. ;)

Generally, Stratostuff is pretty easy to sing, the melodies are simple and there aren't many fast runs and arpeggios ;)
you're right..
fantasia it's difficult...
and "find your own voice"? for me is very difficult...very high..

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 12:23 am
by Jaakko
The melody is easy, just drop one octave and it's easy and still right :D

Re: Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 8:43 am
by antonio
Jaakko wrote:
For register changes, I think the trickiest one for me if Hunting High and Low, dammit, it's working around my passagio most of the time and far from enjoyable to sing. ;)
yes it's tricky...like sos.

Re: Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:06 pm
by antonio
Jaakko wrote:
The melody is easy, just drop one octave and it's easy and still right :D
let's sing find your own voice one octave higher... :D

my canto teacher has just listened to two of my favouriete singers...TK e M.kiske..
she already love them...and wants both discography

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sat Jul 10, 2004 11:48 pm
by browneyedgirl
Probably songs which are of high octave/pitch such as the ones on ElementsI.

Re: Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 10:52 am
by timo the soulforged
browneyedgirl wrote:
Probably songs which are of high octave/pitch such as the ones on ElementsI.
yes...... koti says that too,elements II too cos if you watch the i walk to my own song video you can see that koti almost screams...

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:56 pm
by Maka
Find your own voice it's quite difficult for me 'cause it is too high... and Learning to fly...

Re: Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2004 11:21 pm
by timo the soulforged
Maka wrote:

Find your own voice it's quite difficult for me 'cause it is too high... and Learning to fly...
then try to find(sing) it with your own voice :) :D

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Mon Jul 12, 2004 9:00 am
by antonio
i'ver missed "distant skies", "Will the sunrise"...

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 7:16 pm
by sammet
fantasia
find your own voice..for altitude :D
visions
i'm still alive

but in general stratomelody are easy...
this not mean aren't beautiful..

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2004 2:30 am
by Neorave
I'm Still Alive
SOS
Against the Wind (last note mainly)

I also like to point out that even though I don't sing that great, I still like to try to sing along with many of these songs. It's pretty cool

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 4:10 am
by Jack
Father Time.

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:13 pm
by MaFiaBoY
Paradise is quite hard too. Beginning is low and chorus is very high. And if you drop the chrus one octave, it sounds quite weird :/

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:58 am
by Enkeli
i have difficulty singing Destiny...my vocal range spans two and a half octaves, but the 2 full ones are both below the high C [the one that's one octave above middle C]. the half-octave is the four notes above high C, depends on which key tho, heh...Paradise is hard for me too, but not as hard as Destiny because the progression is gradual- beginning is low and progresses to mid-range and then up to high on the chorus...yeah. :D

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 2:08 pm
by avantasian
Kotipelto is a great singer, my favourite, but listen to Forever, this is a very difficoult song for him, not the chorus, wich is perfect, but the verses, "i stand alone in darkness....". He cannot sing so "down"
So I think Forever is the most difficoult stratosong to be sung by Kotipelto

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:18 pm
by God Called In Sick T
The only one I can't sing because it's very high it's I'm Still Alive, this verse:

"Masterplan of a new kind".

I can't sing it the right way. Let's hope I improve my voice.


NP: Iced Earth - Stormrider

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 1:25 pm
by Reaper
Well any song that is high and loud is hard to sing. But i'd say that Vapaus (Liberty finnish it think, from Elements Pt.2 SE) it's pretty hard to sing... I think it's hard to play in finnish if you aren't a finn...

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:23 pm
by @DiamonD@
Off course, "Elements" is the most difficult Stratovarius' song to sing... What's about me, I could sing it if it would halftone below;I can sing all Strato songs besides someones from"Dreamspace", where Tolkki
used a processor to make his voice higher

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 4:45 pm
by Florian
Stratosphere maybe...

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 5:30 pm
by @DiamonD@
Florian wrote:Stratosphere maybe...
Very smart. Somehow I found on YouTube live video of Dreamspace, and Tolkki didn't sing high sounds.
I can't sing these songs:
Dreamspace
Reign Of Terror
Shattered

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:26 pm
by Keyssion
@DiamonD@ wrote: Somehow I found on YouTube live video of Dreamspace, and Tolkki didn't sing high sounds.
The only live Dreamspace I've found is one with Kotipelto singing and he can't sing those high notes :)

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:38 am
by casiusss
I think that Learning to Fly is the harder one, just try the demo version (easy to find on youtube) and check how TK sounds :wink:

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:38 pm
by warrencurrymetal
If you guys want to hear a good singer, check out the new Fairyland album, SCore to a new beginning.
WOW!

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:30 pm
by Ragehead91
warrencurrymetal wrote:If you guys want to hear a good singer, check out the new Fairyland album, SCore to a new beginning.
WOW!
The last 2 albums were great but this...nah...

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:27 pm
by icecab21
the instrumentals are all the hardest to sing.

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:56 pm
by Malteada
Father Time, and Forever Free, but more Father Time.

songs are not difficult to sing by how high are the notes. the difficult is in the technique, there are techniques to sing high notes easy.
there is a part of the voice registry that is to hard to sing, is the nearest notes from the chest voice to head voice.

Re: What is the more difficult stratosong to sing.?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:47 am
by HinatAArcticA
To my brother, who sings Strato a lot, he told me it would be to reach very high notes. On the top of the list, "Find your own voice" "learning to fly" and "I'm still alive".
He does reach those notes very well sometimes though xD