
collection to contrary
well there is already an topic about an collection, wich is the reunion of the best songs of the band but...and the worst songs? they too do deserve their collection, so.....fans, choose the 10 worst stratosongs for an collection "the worst of stratovarius"eheheh 

Are you experienced?
Re: collection to contrary
impossible, since (IMO) they haven't got 10 bad songs. only 1-2 sucky ones, the rest are classics. 

"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself."
-Sir Richard Francis Burton
-Sir Richard Francis Burton
Re: collection to contrary
Real Fans like every song of the band.gabriel wrote:fans, choose the 10 worst stratosongs for an collection "the worst of stratovarius"eheheh
All Strato songs rock in my opinion.



Re: collection to contrary
Hey really! Come on with that "Real Fan" thing!Elazul wrote:Real Fans like every song of the band.
- browneyedgirl
- Sr. Member
- Posts:27239
- Joined:Thu Aug 29, 2002 6:00 pm
- Location:Starfall
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
There is not 10 bad StratoSongs----some we may like more than others, but no way there are 10 bad StratoSongs!
IMO just 1 ranks as totally :yuk:
Full Moon--and thats only MY opinion--some like that song!
IMO just 1 ranks as totally :yuk:
Full Moon--and thats only MY opinion--some like that song!
"Your life is yours, and yours alone. Rise up and live it!"
Bob: I don't believe in God.
Archangel Michael: That's OK, Bob, because He doesn't believe in you, either!~Legion~
Bob: I don't believe in God.
Archangel Michael: That's OK, Bob, because He doesn't believe in you, either!~Legion~
Re: collection to contrary
well... darkness
break the ice
twilight time
4th reich
reign of terror
thin ice
babylon
tomorrow
infinity
papillon
this ones sucks....FOR ME
break the ice
twilight time
4th reich
reign of terror
thin ice
babylon
tomorrow
infinity
papillon
this ones sucks....FOR ME

Are you experienced?
-
- Sr. Member
- Posts:406
- Joined:Thu Dec 19, 2002 1:26 pm
Re: collection to contrary
What? Well, I agree to some of those, notably thin ice and papillon, which I can't stand myself, but then 4th reich, babylon, tomorrow, infinity and twilight time??? Man, those songs are classics, most of them old vintage stratovarius! Of course the taste of music is a personal matter, but still I have to say I disagree with you.gabriel wrote:well... darkness
break the ice
twilight time
4th reich
reign of terror
thin ice
babylon
tomorrow
infinity
papillon
this ones sucks....FOR ME
Don't get mad. Have a doughnut, all of you!

- Beast_Pete
- Sr. Member
- Posts:6489
- Joined:Sun Mar 02, 2003 8:34 pm
- Location:Budapest, Hungary
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
Worst means: the best from behind... in this case.
So it doesn't have to be about the bad songs, but the least good songs. 


- Twilightsymphony
- Sr. Member
- Posts:1340
- Joined:Thu Sep 26, 2002 10:07 pm
- Location:Wiesdorf, Germany
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
there are already two worst-ofs released, called Elements Pt.2 and Infinite 

Delusions Of Grandeur
Re: collection to contrary
yeah i wanted to mean something like thatBeast_Pete wrote:Worst means: the best from behind... in this case.So it doesn't have to be about the bad songs, but the least good songs.

Are you experienced?
Re: collection to contrary
huh..not for me...dreamspace or twilight time deserves the medal in this case eheheTwilightsymphony wrote:there are already two worst-ofs released, called Elements Pt.2 and Infinite
Are you experienced?
- So Death May Die
- Member
- Posts:122
- Joined:Thu Dec 09, 2004 8:50 pm
- Location:FL, USA
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
I can't believe nobody has mentioned 030366... If there is any Strato song I can not stand to listen to, it HAS to be that one. 

Can you see the sky?
It's filtering like a murder...
It's filtering like a murder...
Re: collection to contrary
yeah i forgot that one....weird even in the name...So Death May Die wrote:I can't believe nobody has mentioned 030366... If there is any Strato song I can not stand to listen to, it HAS to be that one.
Are you experienced?
- iron_thunder
- Sr. Member
- Posts:1985
- Joined:Thu Dec 12, 2002 4:08 am
- Location:Toronto, Canada!
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
Heh, well someone's opinion is their own, I guess... Mine is that while true fans may be able to appreciate all the songs, or "understand" them or whatever you want to say, they should also be able to criticize, since perhaps they know the band the best, at least from a listener's point of view, and not be afraid to do so.Forever wrote:Hey really! Come on with that "Real Fan" thing!Elazul wrote:Real Fans like every song of the band.
This is a bad example, but for some reason I remember Chris Carter (the guy who created X-Files, i'm a nerd, i know

But anyhow, I'll have to think of this "worst of Stratovarius" thing. The first Jefferson Airplane compilation, "The Worst of Jefferson Airplane," (1970) was not a worst-of, I guess it was a best-of, I mean it's a great collection, but I suppose I'm not really making a point, just spouting off random trivia... Apologies

@ gabriel: The "030366" name was taken from Tolkki's birthday, March 3rd 1966... More trivia... and something I beat BEG to, hahaha
I actually like that song, it's just so random... but the guitar solo has NOTHING to do with it whatsoever, it's all happy and bouncy, so taken in the rest of the song it's sort of silly. On its own a nice solo, though...
Beast_Pete wrote:Worst means: the best from behind... in this case.So it doesn't have to be about the bad songs, but the least good songs.
Do you mean the least popular? I'd love to see a compilation of that nature.
I mean... despite what I said in the beginning about fans being able to criticize, I don't think Stratovarius has too many ultra-shitty, shitty songs. Some mediocre ones definitely, but only a few shitty ones. However, there are those "forgotten gem" type things that I'd love to see made into a compendium of sorts...
- browneyedgirl
- Sr. Member
- Posts:27239
- Joined:Thu Aug 29, 2002 6:00 pm
- Location:Starfall
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
So Death May Die wrote:I can't believe nobody has mentioned 030366... If there is any Strato song I can not stand to listen to, it HAS to be that one.
I like that song---its weird, but in a good way--how the synthesizer plays the effects, I mean!

Yep--iron_thunder beat me to the punch



TT would be a Cool AntiChrist--he could Rock us all to Hell(real HOT dances down there!)LoL!



"Your life is yours, and yours alone. Rise up and live it!"
Bob: I don't believe in God.
Archangel Michael: That's OK, Bob, because He doesn't believe in you, either!~Legion~
Bob: I don't believe in God.
Archangel Michael: That's OK, Bob, because He doesn't believe in you, either!~Legion~
- Sir. Decadence
- Sr. Member
- Posts:1333
- Joined:Tue Sep 30, 2003 12:38 pm
- Location:Dreamspace
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
Well, I try:
1. Metal Frenzy
2. Full Moon
4. Thin Ice
5. 030366
6. Night Screamer
7. Solitude
8. Winter
9. Black Night
...NO! I am deceiving myself now... those last ones aren't so bad and now I can't find any songs to that list anymore.
Stratovarius doesn't have many bad songs!
After hard thinking that's my conclusion (as usually).
1. Metal Frenzy
2. Full Moon
4. Thin Ice
5. 030366
6. Night Screamer
7. Solitude
8. Winter
9. Black Night
...NO! I am deceiving myself now... those last ones aren't so bad and now I can't find any songs to that list anymore.
Stratovarius doesn't have many bad songs!

After hard thinking that's my conclusion (as usually).

Re: collection to contrary
YEAH MAN! strato least popular songs compilation would be good hueuehehue...indeed...metal frenzy make me sick...but black night isnt that bad at all... 

Are you experienced?
Re: collection to contrary
Thin Ice and 030366 are imo quite odd songs. And even though I totally understand it was 1989 and the band was just starting, I honestly don't like Fright Night at all as an album.
I'm going nowhere. All the way to nowhere.
Re: collection to contrary
well i think fright night better than dreamspace in a general sense...and even have some better songs than the ones from twlight time...if you know what i meanFigaro1 wrote:Thin Ice and 030366 are imo quite odd songs. And even though I totally understand it was 1989 and the band was just starting, I honestly don't like Fright Night at all as an album.

Are you experienced?
- iron_thunder
- Sr. Member
- Posts:1985
- Joined:Thu Dec 12, 2002 4:08 am
- Location:Toronto, Canada!
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
I dunno, there's something about Fright Night that I really like. It's very modest and unpretentious... Heh, yeah Metal Frenzy is definitely not their best instrumental! But I'm always so fascinated with bands' evolutions...
and I love the False Messiah song.
Twilight Time is a definite improvement and Dreamspace is just... nuts.
and I love the False Messiah song.
Twilight Time is a definite improvement and Dreamspace is just... nuts.
- Beast_Pete
- Sr. Member
- Posts:6489
- Joined:Sun Mar 02, 2003 8:34 pm
- Location:Budapest, Hungary
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
The same here.So Death May Die wrote:I can't believe nobody has mentioned 030366... If there is any Strato song I can not stand to listen to, it HAS to be that one.
- Beast_Pete
- Sr. Member
- Posts:6489
- Joined:Sun Mar 02, 2003 8:34 pm
- Location:Budapest, Hungary
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
I have to defend Fright Night. It's better, than TT, and is about the same good as DS imho.
Re: collection to contrary
Can you honestly say you like FullmoonElazul wrote: Real Fans like every song of the band

It is not fair that you criticize so much Fright Night album. Its their first one....for peep sake!
Anyway here comes my list of :owned1: stratosongs - one from each album
BLACK NIGHT
METAL FRENZY
WE ARE THE FUTURE
LORD OF THE WASTELAND (i think 030366 isnt as bad as people usually think)
BABYLON
ABYSS OF YOUR EYES
VENUS IN THE MORNING
MILLENNIUM
KILL THE KING
PAPILLON (this was hard one)
LUMINOUS
FULL MOON (OH why oh why thay did this)
"Se saatanan hurri on oikeasti juuri niin hieno mies kuin voi olettaa. Ei tosiaan lapsille sopiva, mutta kyllä muille. Ja hulluhan se on." (www.juho.com)
Re: collection to contrary
For your list of the worst from each album, I agree, except for Dreamspace (Thin Ice is a real pain for the ears), Episode (I'd say Tomorrow) and Destiny (Years Go By). As for Visions, I love them all so it's impossible to name a worst one.
- Beast_Pete
- Sr. Member
- Posts:6489
- Joined:Sun Mar 02, 2003 8:34 pm
- Location:Budapest, Hungary
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
Hey, Tomorrow is fucking great, don't harm Jens' work.



Re: collection to contrary
IMO We Are The Future, Babylon, Lord Of The Wasteland, Kill The King (kick ass solo) and Millenium are pretty great songs of Stratovariusskar wrote: Anyway here comes my list of :owned1: stratosongs - one from each album
BLACK NIGHT
METAL FRENZY
WE ARE THE FUTURE
LORD OF THE WASTELAND (i think 030366 isnt as bad as people usually think)
BABYLON
ABYSS OF YOUR EYES
VENUS IN THE MORNING
MILLENNIUM
KILL THE KING
PAPILLON (this was hard one)
LUMINOUS
FULL MOON (OH why oh why thay did this)

Re: collection to contrary
Sure it is, but it's the least great I can find on EpisodeBeast_Pete wrote:Hey, Tomorrow is fucking great, don't harm Jens' work.![]()


Re: collection to contrary
huh....black night is the best of its album, metal frenzy is really weird...we are the future is THE best from dreamspace...lotw and babylon really sucks, aoye isnt that bad, venus in the morning is average, millenium KICKS ASS... papillon and luminous are BORING...and i never heard kill the king or full moon...the way some guy talk about this last one i dont really hear it lolskar wrote:Can you honestly say you like FullmoonElazul wrote: Real Fans like every song of the band![]()
It is not fair that you criticize so much Fright Night album. Its their first one....for peep sake!
Anyway here comes my list of :owned1: stratosongs - one from each album
BLACK NIGHT
METAL FRENZY
WE ARE THE FUTURE
LORD OF THE WASTELAND (i think 030366 isnt as bad as people usually think)
BABYLON
ABYSS OF YOUR EYES
VENUS IN THE MORNING
MILLENNIUM
KILL THE KING
PAPILLON (this was hard one)
LUMINOUS
FULL MOON (OH why oh why thay did this)

Are you experienced?
Re: collection to contrary
I agree about Venus In The Morning, it's not THAT good, but Destiny is IMO the album you find the most avrage songs in. It only has five songs that are REALLY great imo (Destiny, SOS, 4000 Rainy Nights, Playing With Fire and Cold Winter Nights). About Full Moon, you should hear it, it's kind of fun to listen to it when you're drunkgabriel wrote:huh....black night is the best of its album, metal frenzy is really weird...we are the future is THE best from dreamspace...lotw and babylon really sucks, aoye isnt that bad, venus in the morning is average, millenium KICKS ASS... papillon and luminous are BORING...and i never heard kill the king or full moon...the way some guy talk about this last one i dont really hear it lolskar wrote:Can you honestly say you like FullmoonElazul wrote: Real Fans like every song of the band![]()
It is not fair that you criticize so much Fright Night album. Its their first one....for peep sake!
Anyway here comes my list of :owned1: stratosongs - one from each album
BLACK NIGHT
METAL FRENZY
WE ARE THE FUTURE
LORD OF THE WASTELAND (i think 030366 isnt as bad as people usually think)
BABYLON
ABYSS OF YOUR EYES
VENUS IN THE MORNING
MILLENNIUM
KILL THE KING
PAPILLON (this was hard one)
LUMINOUS
FULL MOON (OH why oh why thay did this)

- Beast_Pete
- Sr. Member
- Posts:6489
- Joined:Sun Mar 02, 2003 8:34 pm
- Location:Budapest, Hungary
- Contact:
Re: collection to contrary
On Episode, Babylon is the least good imho.