Revolution Renaissance

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by StratoHeart » Wed May 14, 2008 3:50 am

Brazilian drummer, that's a gift for us! Thanks Timo

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by StragOvariuS » Wed May 14, 2008 4:39 am

valo_666 wrote:
StragOvariuS wrote:Oh...avantasia shouldnt be a metal/rock-opera?

Ah yes, damn...its "heavy" blow jovi now. :err:
Whatever... where's the metal/rock opera part in Saana? :roll:

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by RazielSR » Wed May 14, 2008 3:44 pm

...Faster than light, higher than the sky, stronger than steel...We´re the legions of the Twilight...

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by ForceMajeure1 » Fri May 16, 2008 9:27 am

I think I Did it My Own Way is quite a bit more AOR-sounding than anything on Visions. Not bad though. Kiske himself is not annoying at all, but the verse melody is a bit silly. The song is ok though :)

On the basis of his myspace clips, Gus sounds pretty cool :) I hope RR will play some gigs in Finland this summer so I can check them out.
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by dirge » Mon May 19, 2008 12:01 pm

Well the album is already available to download off torrent sites! :shock:

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by NeonVomit » Mon May 19, 2008 12:42 pm

dirge wrote:Well the album is already available to download off torrent sites! :shock:
Why shock? Our complete album was available off torrent sites before we even had the completed mastered one ourselves :D
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by dirge » Mon May 19, 2008 1:36 pm

NeonVomit wrote:
dirge wrote:Well the album is already available to download off torrent sites! :shock:
Why shock? Our complete album was available off torrent sites before we even had the completed mastered one ourselves :D
It was an insider! :P
Would have thought after the hooha with Saana, Tolkki would have been a bit more protective.

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by RazielSR » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:06 pm

Hey Timo, where can we get the album on Friday?
Play.com has delayed the release date to next Monday 9.
The same with amazon Why don't you make a direct purchase in mp3 version too, like you did with Saana?

I'd like to have it on Friday! And I will not have the cd until next week!

And seeing Frontiers faq... I don't like his terms:
All shipments are sent via priority mail. Which means the shipment is not
insured. All orders are not insured and will not be replaced if damaged or
lost.


If you wish to upgrade your shipment per registered post or UPS, please send
an email to : mailorder_at_frontiers.it
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by RazielSR » Wed Jun 04, 2008 1:18 pm

Hey Icebreaker, have you called to the shop?
Lapazeus wrote:
You can order it for example here http://www.cdon.com/main.phtml?navroot=905

http://www.levykauppax.fi/artist/revolu ... e/new_era/
Also, Levykauppa Äx seems to have the album in their catalogue. Other Finnish shops could have it as well.


I doubt any actual record shop has it, but then again they are disappearing as well. These guys might have ordered straight from Frontiers.
Good that you can get it here somehow.
Will remain interesting, maybe I could try to call Levykauppa X this week and ask are they selling it or not.
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by Heavy_Homer » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:03 pm

I bought the RR album today. It´s so fucking good.
But it´s stupid that there is three singers in this album. On the album reads The Bombastic Album Of Timo Tolkki. The best songs are: Heroes, Glorious And Divine and Revolution Renaissance. :twisted: :twisted:

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by IceBreaker » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:34 pm

RazielSR wrote:Hey Icebreaker, have you called to the shop?
Not yet but will do that quite soon.
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by RazielSR » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:01 pm

I have contacted with Frontiers and they have tell me another contact here in Spain (mastertraxx) and they tell me I will find the album in Spain this weekend. GREAT!
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by SquallSaga » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:00 pm

I think I must be one of the only one who just loves I did it my way.... Not complex, sure, but so great ! I mean the more I listen to it the more I "need" to ^^.

Very good album..... Hope (and think) the four other will do the same :)

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by RazielSR » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:10 pm

SquallSaga wrote:I think I must be one of the only one who just loves I did it my way.... Not complex, sure, but so great ! I mean the more I listen to it the more I "need" to ^^.

Very good album..... Hope (and think) the four other will do the same :)
It is a very catchy song, but too simple. It is good, of course, but it's more rock oriented. My fav song in New Era is Eden is burning.
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by SquallSaga » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:42 pm

The only thing I could say about I did it my way is not a "big" final by Kiske, and a solo too short. Other than that, yeah it could sound "simple", but sometimes it's my heart who says if I love a song or not, not the logic... That's the case for this song ;- )

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by empi » Wed Jun 04, 2008 10:38 pm

Is it my Ffrefox or is myspace and forum of RR down ?

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by dirge » Wed Jun 04, 2008 11:16 pm

I can't get on Myspace either, keep trying it'll probably be back soon.

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by MikeWacho » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:36 am

am i the only one that likes "we are magic"???

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by Rebel » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:40 am

MikeWacho wrote:am i the only one that likes "we are magic"???
No, I do too.

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by icecab21 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:42 am

i love the intro to we are magic but then for some reason he never reapeats it. i really prefere the demo becasue he reapeats it with kotipelto singing it. i wonder why tolkki made the change.

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by MikeWacho » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:48 am

icecab21 wrote:i love the intro to we are magic but then for some reason he never reapeats it. i really prefere the demo becasue he reapeats it with kotipelto singing it. i wonder why tolkki made the change.
i suppose the middle solo was not yet ready...thats the biggest change between versions...

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by RazielSR » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:36 am

We are magic is incredible too.

If you listen to RR version, it's a bit different from the demo. I love Pasi's voice, but for this song I prefer Kotipelto's voice. In the demo, I love the part when Koti sing..."We are maaagiiic...yeeeee....eeeeee....eeee...eeeee" ..........

I don't know if you understand me o_O.........:shock:

It's that thing Koti makes a lot of times in the end of a word, the last sound...he stretch the sound while he makes different tonalities...It's the only who can do it with that "timbre". Simply amazing

Then you have the Pasi's version, a lot more powerful and rough...It's beautiful too, but for this song I prefer Koti's voice. Tolkki said this song was for Sammet, but he didn't like the result (maybe because he wanted to have a different tonality for the song and Sammet is very similar to Kotipelto).

We are magic makes me remember a lot of Strato songs and makes me feel strange (sad :( and happy :o ). It has a lot of known and typical Tolkki's sounds and melodies on it.
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by icecab21 » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:03 am

what i would really love is to hear my favorite tk of sa sing the songs. both tks have such amazing one of a kind voices that i really want to hear them sing every song ever

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by MikeWacho » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:32 am

let's see if TT can invite sammet and kiske again, personally i just thought that kiske did a wonderful job here, his tone is the more adequate and it's clear...

a job well done...

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by RazielSR » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:33 am

I have made a video of my favourite song on New Era album (Eden is burning) .

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=67U8U5g_SZA
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by icecab21 » Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:43 am

I have made a video of my favourite song of the New Era album (Eden is burning) .

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=67U8U5g_SZA
I really enjoyed this video I think it really paints a picture into scenarios to further take the mind into. That and I just love baby polar bears. Thanks to you and the makers of the music and pictures for a breathtaking experience.

It’s funny in the related video section there is this clip of people comparing apples and oranges and trying to rate and sound definitive about the demos vs. the fully produced album. Thanks for putting your time into creating a artful video instead of that kind of nonsense.

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by dirge » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:41 am

OK, i'm almost finished listening to Revolution Renaissance - New Era. Last Night On Earth has just finished and now onto the track Revolution Renaissance. It didn't give me the buzz that a lot of old Stratovarius albums gave me but I guess my music taste has evolved a tiny bit since then as most of my purchases these days are more of the Folk metal variety. Anyway... I thought the Pasi songs were the best on the album along with Keep The Flame Alive. The Pasi songs had lots of soul I thought. Tobias still unimpresses me, his voice should be sent back in time to the 80's with any hard rock group. Kiske (Time for me to get flamed here) Does some good and some that just doesn't get me going. This Revolution Renaissance track and Keep The Flame Alive being the better on this album IMO. As I said there, my opinion, everyone is different and we make our own choices about what we think. On a whole the album is about a 6 or 6.5 out of 10 for me. Could have been a bit more bombastic.

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by browneyedgirl » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:12 pm

Andrew Hawnt: Author of 'Across the Seas of Mind': Revolution Renaissance- 'New Era' album review
http://andrewhawnt.blogspot.com/2008/06 ... album.html

This guy gives RR 9/10. ???
I guess HE likes it! =P
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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by Mormegil » Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:39 pm

Seems to me that most professional reviews of RR are quite positive.
I guess it's just dissapointed Strato-fans who dislike it.

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Re: Revolution Renaissance

Post by browneyedgirl » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:29 pm

Andrew Hawnt interviewed Tolkki last week, and the interview is going to be in a future POWERPLAY magazine.
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