Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

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Which city will get nuked first?

Bushehr (Iran)
3
27%
Tehran
0
No votes
Islamabad (Pakistan)
0
No votes
Washington
3
27%
Manhattan
2
18%
Los Angeles
1
9%
Moscow
1
9%
Paris
0
No votes
London
0
No votes
Berlin
0
No votes
Beijing
0
No votes
New Dehli
0
No votes
Damascus
0
No votes
Samson Option (all major Arab capitals +Moscow & Tobolsk after they fuck with Israel)
1
9%
 
Total votes: 11

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by Jabi » Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:08 pm

by the way, the Prison Planet article said this:
This is while the UN nuclear watchdog in its latest report on Iran announced that it could not find any ‘components of a nuclear weapon’ or ‘related nuclear physics studies’ in Iran.

According to the September 15 report, Iran enriches uranium-235 to a level of below 5 percent - a rate consistent with the construction of a nuclear power plant. Nuclear arms production requires an enrichment level of above 90 percent.
So who's fooling who?

Someone's propaganda machines are firing on all pistons. But whose? Maybe it will be Israel or West who's gonna start the war. Kinda like in the movie Paycheck, some corporation built a machine that allowed its user to see the future, well the Prez used it, ordered a pre-emptive strike and started a nuclear war, just because of the vision seen by using the machine. If he hadn't seen a vision (only a possible future) like that he wouldn't have given the command to use the ultimate weapon and there would have been no war.

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by Jabi » Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:15 pm

P.S. that last line was meant as ironic.

P.P.S. Frankly, fuck Islam.

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by AGAG » Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:04 am

:lol: Yeah, lots of love...


So Iran doesn't have nuclear warfare? then russia will have to provide the nukes...
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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by browneyedgirl » Wed Sep 24, 2008 8:04 pm

AGAG wrote::lol: Yeah, lots of love...


So Iran doesn't have nuclear warfare? then russia will have to provide the nukes...
You are close. Russia is giving them some very powerful missiles next month. That is why there is a very small window of opportunity for USA or Israel to bomb Iran. Its either the next few weeks, or never.

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by browneyedgirl » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:55 pm

Iran Is Not The Problem
http://www.rense.com/general83/prob.htm

An interesting article which asserts that USA&Israel is after Iran's oil and natural resources.
Keep in mind that Rense.com is a totaly Anti-USA, Anti-Israel, Anti-Jewish website which is very biased.
This article says Russia will protect Iran with all they have, at all costs. After all, Russia wants that oil, too!

BTW, if this Karl fella lives in USA why doesn't he get out since he obviously hates it so much?

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by icecab21 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:46 am

That article was fine with Jews, the guy just thinks that there are problems with a Zionist mindset of right to land and resources based of their own book. While that guy himself becomes uses non journalism himself, the need for debate and corrections of myths and fallacies is a valid point.

Message to that artical writer that can be learned: Never call something BS or a lie; it makes you look like you don’t care about reason and critical thinking. Instead, state your case and let others form their own conclusions. Of course that is just on option.

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by miditek » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:55 am

browneyedgirl wrote:
AGAG wrote::lol: Yeah, lots of love...


So Iran doesn't have nuclear warfare? then russia will have to provide the nukes...
You are close. Russia is giving them some very powerful missiles next month. That is why there is a very small window of opportunity for USA or Israel to bomb Iran. Its either the next few weeks, or never.
Or have much higher casualties if we (or Israel) bomb them after they light the new SAM network up.

Still, all may not be so terrible- the Air Force has Pave Low helicopters, as well as the classic F-4 Wild Weasel jets and other ECM's (Electronic Countermeasures), in addition to the F-117 Stealth Fighter, as well as the B2 Stealth bomber. The former are specifically designed to take out air defense systems of that type, while the latter are virtually invisible to most types of radar.

There are still plenty of satellite guided cruise missiles that could also pack a devastating blow against Bushrer. I would also like to see their punk ass navy or air force come out to play against Israel or the US- we could even take some of the U.S. Navy's WWII era battleships, such as the USS New Jersey out of their mothball (standby) status- and show the enemy why sixteen inch guns are still a force to be reckoned with- and the New Jersey class ships can also be fitted with Tomahawks (cruise missiles) as well.

The strategy is that you don't have to take the entire network out- only strategically targeted radar installations and com sites to "break" the network communications, in order to clear a path for the fighters and the bombers.

It worked well against Iraq in the nineties, as well as the most recent invasion. We also used them during NATO's Balkan Campaign during Clinton's (cough) unilateral bombing against the Serbs.

And while we're on the subject of Iran, I'd give anything if someone would have hit Mahmoud the goatfucker in the face with a pork pie while he was giving that ridiculous rant/speech at the UN in NYC earlier this week.

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by browneyedgirl » Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:01 am

AhMADinejad: 'American empire' nearing its end
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/09/ ... index.html

Isn't he just so nice. :roll: If I were him I wouldn't be so thrilled. USA has survived alot worse setbacks. AhMADinejad should listen to an old but true Southern proverb: he should not count his chicks before they hatch! ;)

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by icecab21 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:13 pm

Well our politicians are too pussy to talk with him and would rather speculate out of sight and from suspicious intelligence. Is it too much to ask that the USA president and vice president be able to kick his ass in a debate or find ways to work together to solve problems?

Ron Paul also says the American empire should come to an end so I think that as more of a policy issue than a threat issue. There are not too many world empires that have survived for long as empires.

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by NeonVomit » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:36 am

Which city will get nuked first?

I'm sure you'll find the answer in the book of Revelations if you look hard enough.
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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by miditek » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:16 am

NeonVomit wrote:Which city will get nuked first?

I'm sure you'll find the answer in the book of Revelations if you look hard enough.
Or, as our resident Islamic apologist and oracle, perhaps you could enlighten us, Dr. Goebbels.
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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by browneyedgirl » Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:47 am

miditek wrote:
NeonVomit wrote:Which city will get nuked first?

I'm sure you'll find the answer in the book of Revelations if you look hard enough.
Or, as our resident Islamic apologist and oracle, perhaps you could enlighten us, Dr. Goebbels.
He's just one of many, miditek, remember. ;)
Just like you said, miditek. I keep remembering how alot of those people actually celebrated about 9/11. You know, thats a hard thing for any decent human being to forget. :(

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Re: Nuclear Winter a greater concern than global warming

Post by icecab21 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 3:03 am

A small percentage does not make a population. A minority is not a majority. We can't treat the vocal minority like they represent the general population and like they are joined by the rest instead of victimizing the rest.

It seems like to recognize both sides as having good people and bad people and having done good thing's and bad things is not a option to some people. I sympathize with the people that act on nonviolence principals. That makes me a sympathizer without racial or religious bias. Judging not from who people are by genetics, but who people are by actions of nonviolence.

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