Just Kotipelto !!

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by sheryl1 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:34 pm

RazielSR wrote: If you see Strato videos from 2006, he was singing really well as always. And now 3 years later he is not singing like that. I'd like to know what's happening.
I´d like to know that too...I was just thinking that it´s because TK doesn´t give a little rest to his voice...As far as I know, in last year/year and a half, he´s recored two albums - which takes a lot of practise, participated in that singing tv thing, done world tour etc. I think now his voice is beyond what it´s able to sustain and endure...Hey maaaan, the voice needs to take a rest for a while!!!

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by rikkertje » Mon Oct 26, 2009 3:49 pm

sheryl1 wrote:
RazielSR wrote: If you see Strato videos from 2006, he was singing really well as always. And now 3 years later he is not singing like that. I'd like to know what's happening.
I´d like to know that too...I was just thinking that it´s because TK doesn´t give a little rest to his voice...As far as I know, in last year/year and a half, he´s recored two albums - which takes a lot of practise, participated in that singing tv thing, done world tour etc. I think now his voice is beyond what it´s able to sustain and endure...Hey maaaan, the voice needs to take a rest for a while!!!
I think that is the reason why his voice is the way it is now.

If it's true I will have the time of my life in January. The 9th of January is the third show after 2 months of rest. It should be better then. :)

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by RazielSR » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:25 pm

Well, I'll see Strato on 15 January in Madrid. Let's hope to see an amazing show.
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by Polaris » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:48 pm

sheryl1 wrote:
rikkertje wrote:I just watched some videos of Father Time played live in 2009 and I have to come to the conclusion that TK's high voice sounds terrible these days. His high notes just don't have the power of a few years ago anymore. He's a very good singer and I only have respect for him. But he should leave the really high songs out of the set in the future. That would really improve the quality of their shows.
Don´t agree. Saw them few times live this year and high notes - also in Father time - were all right :) Sure he has good and bad days (grr, like Wacken 07), but I wouldn´t generalize that he cannot reach them at all...
I went to Strato show on 20th October & his voice was in good shape, I love it! BTW: Why people only cares about high notes??? :roll:

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by icecab21 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 4:59 pm

One can find videos in any year where he does not sing well. He has been whelping some of those notes for a while now. Every year that I watch videos from has times where he is good and times when he is not. It is also from a song to song basis in the videos where in some songs he will get it and some he won’t,

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by GuiHunter » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:56 pm

I think depends of the video.....
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by hiro23 » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:00 pm

I personally have found nothing wrong with his voice in those video's but then again I'm usually not too picky when it comes to singing, just as long as they aren't Grunting or shrieking
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by GuiHunter » Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:18 am

When you getting old I think that you have more skills and technique about how to sing better than only stay sing high notes everytime..... Take a look at Dickinson....He is like wine.... As long as he gets old his voice is getting better for the songs...
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by RazielSR » Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:28 pm

If we talk here about high notes, it is because the main difference we had with TK's voice were the high notes, and almost all the Stratovarius discography is about high notes.

So, if you listen now, songs like Father time (for example) without hight notes...well I see it weird and maybe you all will love the Strato classics without high notes but I don't like it. Tk's voice was always special thanks to his texture and his capability to reach impossible ranges.
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by Polaris » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:18 pm

GuiHunter wrote:When you getting old I think that you have more skills and technique about how to sing better than only stay sing high notes everytime..... Take a look at Dickinson....He is like wine.... As long as he gets old his voice is getting better for the songs...
This is exactly what I think too & for who don't likes to hear Kotipelto singing live anymore just stay in home & go to listen to Stratovarius studio albuns!

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by GuiHunter » Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:20 pm

It's not only the high notes that made Tk the singer he is... It matters the way he sing cause in musics like Forever, we heard a guy that was born to sing... That's it... Kotipelto was born to sing... It's a God's gift...
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by hiro23 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:03 pm

A good singer is a good singer, regardless of how high or low he sings
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by icecab21 » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:11 pm

I think a singer is good for the range the singer can consistently perform. for me song's don't need to be true to the recording and it does not really matter what octave or key they are sung in, just that whatever is chosen is well performed.

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by Polaris » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:54 pm

GuiHunter wrote:It's not only the high notes that made Tk the singer he is... It matters the way he sing cause in musics like Forever, we heard a guy that was born to sing... That's it... Kotipelto was born to sing... It's a God's gift...
Indeed, is a gift & he was born to sing :wink:

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by rikkertje » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:20 pm

icecab21 wrote:I think a singer is good for the range the singer can consistently perform. for me song's don't need to be true to the recording and it does not really matter what octave or key they are sung in, just that whatever is chosen is well performed.
True. And that's not the case with TK. Some of the material they chose for this tour isn't well performed. It's just too high for him.

That's why I hope they will choose wiser for the 2010 European Tour. I love TK's middle range voice so I hope they will play lots of middle ranged songs like Eagleheart, Blind, and I hope they will play some songs wich they never or rarely payed live. That would be awesome. :D

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by GuiHunter » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:51 pm

No, Tk can sing the high notes............But nowadays he doens't abuse of this notes...It's simple....
Tolkki to Kotipelto:
- I talked with GOD and He said that I am the best in this band...
Kotipelto:
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by hiro23 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:44 am

Apples and oranges, some like it and some don't
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by icecab21 » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:49 am

they should just write a album with one nice and easy midrange note for him to sing. that should be safe enough for people.

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by GuiHunter » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:50 pm

If you think that you loved Polaris
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Kotipelto:
- I don't remember I said that...
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Post by GuiHunter » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:56 pm

.....which one is a good album, in my opinion
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by palarmux » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:22 pm

Polaris is just great album. :) Kotipeltos singing havent so high notes that on other albunms

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by rikkertje » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:59 pm

GuiHunter wrote:No, Tk can sing the high notes............But nowadays he doens't abuse of this notes...It's simple....
Yes it's true that he can sing the high notes. But not as powerfull as he did a few years ago. The high notes sound very weak now. I hope that for the next tour they will play less high songs. And for the next album they should write more songs with the vocals like Eagleheart or Blind. In that range TK sounds awesome! :)

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by Intiaani » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:28 pm

icecab21 wrote:they should just write a album with one nice and easy midrange note for him to sing. that should be safe enough for people.
Not yet, since he still can sing damn high. I't be great to get that midrange stuff, say, after 15 years or so, since he, most likely, can't sing that high anymore. :) Cool if he can though. He's always been an awesome singer, see, and he still is.
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by MARIANA » Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:26 am

Nowadays Tk didn't abuse of high notes and a good exemple is Polaris! But it's a good album too.. but in my opinion the best album it's vision

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by GuiHunter » Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:53 pm

Yeah............ Visions is a wonderfull album... There are no bad musics in this album....
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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by Polaris » Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:14 pm

I prefer Destiny & Fourth Dimension than Visions, in my opinions Visions is good, but also is a commercial album!
I'm a little tired from that album, maybe because when I bought used to listen everyday! :lol:

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Post by Derik » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:31 pm

It's only a bad time.

There's a video on youtube from August/09 which TK sang "Visions" very well!

I saw them in Sao Paulo/Brasil and TK really don't able sang high notes.

But is just a bad time.

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by mayhem-for-all » Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:49 pm

He has done better but after a bit of rest he should be fine for he has been singing early this year better than in years.

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by sheryl1 » Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:02 am

mayhem-for-all wrote:He has done better but after a bit of rest he should be fine for he has been singing early this year better than in years.
After little rest, he should be fine...Maybe some Finnish guyyys could tell us in few days as Strato´s mini tour in Finland starts...

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Re: Just Kotipelto !!

Post by Intiaani » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:45 pm

sheryl1 wrote:
mayhem-for-all wrote:He has done better but after a bit of rest he should be fine for he has been singing early this year better than in years.
After little rest, he should be fine...Maybe some Finnish guyyys could tell us in few days as Strato´s mini tour in Finland starts...
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