Your impression of Darkest Hours EP

[Sumerian]

Well, maybe if you give Matias a chance, you'll start to like him a bit more. If you're a real fan, you should be OK or at least semi-pleased with this change

He is not bad guy and Stratovarius guys are angels. I am just saying something is missing from Visions days...

Why can't I express my opinion without being called with names?

[ggonza43]

Look, man, this is a forum. You have the right to state whatever you want as I have the right to criticize whatever you say and to also express my opinions. If you can't stand this, maybe you joined the wrong forum. Everybody will respect your opinions, but try not to argue at all; are we OK ?

[Sumerian]

Look, man, this is a forum. You have the right to state whatever you want as I have the right to criticize whatever you say and to also express my opinions. If you can't stand this, maybe you joined the wrong forum. Everybody will respect your opinions, but try not to argue at all; are we OK ?

Who argues? I just express my opinion.
Why so serious?

[ggonza43]

Haha, now I'm the serious? Relax, take it easy, and drink beer

[Sumerian]

Haha, now I'm the serious? Relax, take it easy, and drink beer

I am not drinking these days.
And I wasn't talking to you from the start.

[ggonza43]

Sorry, but I don't see anybody else here. Are you OK?

[Febo]

Well, maybe if you give Matias a chance, you'll start to like him a bit more. If you're a real fan, you should be OK or at least semi-pleased with this change

He is not bad guy and Stratovarius guys are angels. I am just saying something is missing from Visions days...

Why can't I express my opinion without being called with names?

Well I'll express my opinion about you:
I think you're a close-minded person, either that or your fanaticism has taken you a bit too far.
It is clear that Stratovarius was not gonna be the name without Tolkki, but many good things of the old Strato are still there.
Once again, if you don't like it, don't listen to it. And about Symfonia; I got nothing against Tolkki, but I want to see how much he'll be able to keep that band alive with him working with such complicated guys like Matos and Kusch, who'll not toletate any shit from him for sure. Same with Harkin who's well known for not staying in the bands he plays for long...
Reality is that we have two bands that will give us some great music in the next few months. We either enjoy it or complain about it. I preffer to do the first.

[ggonza43]

Reality is that we have two bands that will give us some great music in the next few months. We either enjoy it or complain about it. I preffer to do the first.

Amen my friend !

[Sumerian]

Well I'll express my opinion about you:
I think you're a close-minded person, either that or your fanaticism has taken you a bit too far.
It is clear that Stratovarius was not gonna be the name without Tolkki, but many good things of the old Strato are still there.

Magic of Stratovarius is totally gone. Maybe I am getting old, but for my ears something is missing. And if you think the band is now perfect, you will learn when you become my age some more about the business.

Reality is that we have two bands that will give us some great music in the next few months.

Yes. Only one band is in for the money. Symfonia is carrying the stratovarius legacy by starting from scratch, which is truly brave.

And as usual I cannot write my opinions here without being criticized. Fucking hell!

[ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ]

As usual??? I thought you were new here. Send my regards to the even older Pyramids...

[ggonza43]

I don't understand why you put a happy face after every single post. Either you're angry or not, you can't be both! Come on man, we shouldn't be arguing about silly stuffs, if you want to share your opinions just bear in mind that not every single user of the forum will think just like you. If you think you're always right, then get ready to be kicked off here

I warned you, try to be always positive and let's be friends for now

[RazielSR]

oh no...this man again...well, bottleneck incoming.

[Sumerian]

Send my regards to the even older Pyramids...

More like a pyramid of shit.
By the way- FUCK YOU!

[Sumerian]

I don't understand why you put a happy face after every single post. Either you're angry or not, you can't be both!

Believe I am not angry at all.
Why are you angry?

If you think you're always right, then get ready to be kicked off here

I do not say, I am always right. I just wonder why i can't express my opinions here without being criticized. As usual everything Tolkki does is wrong, and Stratovarius guys are right. This is truly unbelievable.

[ggonza43]

And who on Earth said Tolkki is bad and Strato guys are good? Seriously man, try to read well. And nobody is criticizing you at all, we are (like you) expressing our own opinions

And if you say you're not angry, I believe you

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[ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ]

I can't understand WHY you must be so funny everytime. "Harvester" was one of your best nicks, but this one is more Egyptian and a bit more African and therefore more subtle.

[ggonza43]

You know who this douchebag is?

[Sumerian]

How are you, Giselle.
I know about you quite well these days, and your unbelievably shitty restaurant. Take care not to choke and die on an escargot. That would be sad.

[Kosmo]

I wonder if Michael's popcorn is buttered!

[ggonza43]

I wonder if Michael's popcorn is buttered!

If he likes sweet popcorn, would they have used brown sugar ?

Yeah, racist joke...So what ?!

[Intiaani]

One might actually think that Tolkki hasn't had any new ideas for songs in years, and that Stratovarius are still going strong.

Oh well... Guess I'm wrong.

Wait for that Symfonia Angel Something song coming out and see if you're heard it or not. Or that Tears of Babylon or whatever it will be named. Or how about Trinity, the song? Revolution Renaissance, the song?

My skin wrongfully give me some of its greatest goose bumps during Emancipation Suite. We've heard a lot of stuff from there as well, but it's still an independent epic compared to anything Tolkki's done since... Elements? Okay, Liberty. United.

Anyway, you should listen something new from Tobias Sammet. You might find it good. Don't touch the older material though; it doesn't have anything to do anymore with Tolkki's style that so carries the Stratovarius flag.

My troll-o-meter has always been pretty inaccurate. Especially on this forum since if you're here, it's very likely you are a troll. Still I'm not sure whether what you're doing is trolling or really an opinion.

Also, Symfonia starting from scratch is pretty ridiculous. Anyone of those musicians there are at least as well known as members of Stratovarius in melodic metal scene. I just hope they will have a chemistry and that at least one of them (I'm counting on Matos) will have some steam left for making more than an occasional good, inspired song.

[Susie]

And more pleasure from the IGNORE button... after reading some posts....

Chao, sumerio, chao chama****

[Sumerian]

The reaction I have received here is simply unbelievable, when one guy cannot express his opinion without being mobbed by fans.

But it will take more than 20 people in internet forum to keep Stratovarius alive.

Tolkki could reunite with the band in few years anyway probably. But I doubt he will do it. He is making honest and free music from the heart in Symfonia like supposed to be, and that is all that matters in the end. The music.

And Strato guys have families and must pay bills, so in a way I understand and can respect their decision to continue without Tolkki.

[robocop656]

WHEN IN EGYPT, DO AS THE EGYPTIANS DO

[hiro23]

First off, everyone else is expressing their opinion the same as you are expressing yours, secondly there is no rule that says that they can't disagree with you.

I'm not attacking you by any means but seriously what did you expect to hear from people when you come into the "STRATOVARIUS" forum and start saying that you don't like the current line up? did you think everyone in here would agree with you?

Once again don't think I'm trying to be mean but I really am curious as to why you came here if you have a problem with the current line up

[Sumerian]

First off, everyone else is expressing their opinion the same as you are expressing yours, secondly there is no rule that says that they can't disagree with you.

I do not say, you cannot write your opinions. Fuck, I just wonder why everyone gets so upset, when I write mine.

did you think everyone in here would agree with you?

I do not say we must all agree. But to be civil and respectful towards one another.

[ggonza43]

I do not say we must all agree. But to be civil and respectful towards one another.

Yeah, look who's talking about being civil and respectful now

[Sumerian]

I do not say we must all agree. But to be civil and respectful towards one another.

Yeah, look who's talking about being civil and respectful now

Yes. I very respectfully write my opinions about the clips I have heard from new album from Stratoguys, which I find total embarrassment to Stratovarius saga.

It is not as though we discuss that unbelievably shitty new song from the RR-guys.

I am just a fan from Egypt, and I can write my thoughts here freely. I am getting too old for this nonsense, though. Fucking hell!

[Kosmo]

All you seem to do is bash the current Strato line-up.

It's an opinion aswell and you're able to say it, i'm not denying that at all.