Tour Kick Off Update ?

[ggonza43]

I'm loving that poster behind, great videos !

[rikkertje]

That is the worst live version of Father Time I have ever heard.

[ggonza43]

That is the worst live version of Father Time I have ever heard.

You mean because of TK's voice, or musically overall ?

[adrian9]

set list!

[rikkertje]

That is the worst live version of Father Time I have ever heard.

You mean because of TK's voice, or musically overall ?

Mostly his voice. I watched the rest of the video's too and I have to say this is the worst I ever heard him sing. And I'm not only talking about high notes blablabla. I mean his overall singing. Hope he improves during the tour.

[RazielSR]

rikkertje dude.. can you please, stop saying the same over and over again?
I mean, WE ALL know that TK's voice is not as perfect as 15 years ago.

We all know that TK's range is now very low and he can't reach high notes like he used to reach.

But cmon dude, seriously, how can you live saying almost everyday in this forum the same? If you don't feel ok with the live verisons nowadays, man, just don't watch it.
What do you think? that we are all deaf or something? We have known TK singing better, like you. We are all like ...."oh no shit, he is not singing like he used to sing in the past while singing live".
But saying that here, over and over and over-over again it's necessary and it's good?
What possitive thing do you extract from that?

I have nothing against you, seriously, and I understand what you say, but I think it's enough. If you don't think the same, just continue with the same, you are free.
And in this tour he is singing better than in Polaris.





Hey, Matias is a lot much into the band now, he is a lot more confident up there. Really cool. The whole band feels better than in Polaris tour it seems. And Alex is making a good job.




KMASTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MANY THANKS FOR THE VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!

[rikkertje]

I think his singing is like shit compared to the Polaris tour. And I will continue to say that. Just like I say it when I like his voice. Like in Darkest Hours for example.

[Rebel]

I think his singing is like shit compared to the Polaris tour. And I will continue to say that. Just like I say it when I like his voice. Like in Darkest Hours for example.

seriously dude, I don't want to use the ignore feature, but you're more repetitive than

Arnold Layne

[rikkertje]

Well the ignore future is the solution for your problem!

[ggonza43]

Hey, Matias is a lot much into the band now, he is a lot more confident up there. Really cool. The whole band feels better than in Polaris tour it seems. And Alex is making a good job.

Indeed. He had more time now to cope with the band than when he first joined

Also come on you guys; give the girl a break

[stratowerner]

I think his singing is like shit compared to the Polaris tour. And I will continue to say that. Just like I say it when I like his voice. Like in Darkest Hours for example.

Maybe we don't care what you think about the voice of Koti,i dutch i will call you a ''zeurpietje'' om in Sinterklaas stijl te blijven

[ggonza43]

in dutch i will call you a ''zeurpietje'' om in Sinterklaas stijl te blijven

Translation needed !

[stratowerner]

in dutch i will call you a ''zeurpietje'' om in Sinterklaas stijl te blijven

Translation needed !

Ask Rikkertje he can hit that high notes

[Burning Reflection]

Well the ignore future is the solution for your problem!

Great suggestion!

[ggonza43]

Ask Rikkertje he can hit that high notes

Wow, easy man

[_Pepe_]

I don't really understand why they always play the same songs, who wants to heard BD every Strato concert...

Me too!!! Cant get tired of it! They're classics, and so powerful!!!
Besides, some people never been to a Strato concert before, and they must have those songs!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H68OXLXv3-s

[Jabi]

set list!

Being the opening act, Stratovarius have limited time to play and for that reason I'm not overly surprised they chose to play mostly "hits".

Even though HHAL & Eagleheart in the same set doesn't make much sense, to me HHAL, S.O.S and Eagleheart are practically the same song.

[ggonza43]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H68OXLXv3-s

That melody they used for the intro before Phoenix...What is it? Sounds celestial! Maybe something from "Elysium" ?!

[VictorTDD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H68OXLXv3-s

That melody they used for the intro before Phoenix...What is it? Sounds celestial! Maybe something from "Elysium" ?!

You mean the opening music? It is not from Elysium. They also used the opening music on Polaris World Tour.

[ggonza43]

You mean the opening music? It is not from Elysium. They also used the opening music on Polaris World Tour.

No, at the Polaris World Tour they used the "Destiny" melody, unless this was used in some later shows, and if that's the case I didn't know. Anyway, sounds heavenly and I love it

[VictorTDD]

You mean the opening music? It is not from Elysium. They also used the opening music on Polaris World Tour.

No, at the Polaris World Tour they used the "Destiny" melody, unless this was used in some later shows, and if that's the case I didn't know. Anyway, sounds heavenly and I love it

Yes, they used it later. I heard it in China.

[ggonza43]

Yes, they used it later. I heard it in China.

Why you asian (no ofence) always get the best of everything ?!

[Sumerian]

I think his singing is like shit compared to the Polaris tour. And I will continue to say that. Just like I say it when I like his voice. Like in Darkest Hours for example.

seriously dude, I don't want to use the ignore feature, but you're more repetitive than

Arnold Layne

I ask myself why can't Timo Kotipelto reach anymore the high notes. Sure he is not getting younger, but look at Michael Kiske. But of course Timo cannot do anything wrong. Fucking hell

[VictorTDD]

Yes, they used it later. I heard it in China.

Why you asian (no ofence) always get the best of everything ?!

Not only asia, I mean "later", they use it during the later legs of Polaris Tour I think.

[Kecos]

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[Kmasters]

I ask myself why can't Timo Kotipelto reach anymore the high notes. Sure he is not getting younger, but look at Michael Kiske. But of course Timo cannot do anything wrong. Fucking hell

Most can't reach the high notes after 15-20 years.. I think Michael Kiske is the exception

what we need to c in here is kiske has not made tours for several years and koti has done tours since 95 (I think) kiske voice is in good shape for that

[ggonza43]

what we need to c in here is kiske has not made tours for several years and koti has done tours since 95 (I think) kiske voice is in good shape for that

Very true, if Kiske made a lot of touring, he wouldn't have that voice for so long . But yeah, Kiske is a great singer for his age

[Balu]

what we need to c in here is kiske has not made tours for several years and koti has done tours since 95 (I think) kiske voice is in good shape for that

Very true, if Kiske made a lot of touring, he wouldn't have that voice for so long . But yeah, Kiske is a great singer for his age

Kiske is a good singer, but has a crappy voice for metal imo.

[ggonza43]

Kiske is a good singer, but has a crappy voice for metal imo.

Really? I loved him in early Helloween...I think I like his voice more than Andi, although they are very different singers

[Balu]

Kiske is a good singer, but has a crappy voice for metal imo.

Really? I loved him in early Helloween...I think I like his voice more than Andi, although they are very different singers

Then, yes. But recently when he sung metal (RR - selftitled, Avantasia, etc.) he didn't fit the music.