I simply write my honest opinion. Fuck!Kosmo wrote:All you seem to do is bash the current Strato line-up.

And no one can accept to hear the reality about Stratovarius money machine. Truly unbelievable.
I simply write my honest opinion. Fuck!Kosmo wrote:All you seem to do is bash the current Strato line-up.
OK, now you've gone too far. Money machine? Are you nuts? The only thing I hear about Strato is the fact they keep making music just because it's their passion and they care a lot about their fans to split up...Don't you remember who was the one that wanted to end this? No reason to offend Tolkki in this way, because he's a nice guy (sometimes), but you and your "Tolkki is Stratovarius" plan isn't working anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm willing to listen Symfonia when the record comes out, because I like TT's musical style and I love listening to his musicSumerian wrote:And no one can accept to hear the reality about Stratovarius money machine. Truly unbelievable.
The complete lack of musical honesty in the band now is already a tragedy for real Stratovarius fans. Do you ever stop to think that?hiro23 wrote: did you ever stop to consider that maybe some of the remaining members love the band and that they don't want to disappoint the fans by breaking the band up?
Everyone can agree their style is completely different from Tolkki's songwriting. So fuck, why they keep the name. Just to exploit the Stratovarius legacy of Timo Tolkki.ggonza43 wrote: OK, now you've gone too far. Money machine? Are you nuts? The only thing I hear about Strato is the fact they keep making music just because it's their passion and they care a lot about their fans to split up...
And I am sure Timo Tolkki gives a fuck what you think.No reason to offend Tolkki in this way, because he's a nice guy (sometimes)
He wrote the same songs that you love. It was his baby since 1984...but you and your "Tolkki is Stratovarius" plan isn't working anymore.
And who on Earth is exploiting the name?! Geez man, you're starting to get really annoying!Sumerian wrote:Everyone can agree their style is completely different from Tolkki's songwriting. So fuck, why they keep the name. Just to exploit the Stratovarius legacy of Timo Tolkki.
I don't care what he thinks, I know he must be a great person, but his actions don't prove that at all. Not liking him as a person doesn't mean I don't like his musical compostionsSumerian wrote:And I am sure Timo Tolkki gives a fuck what you think.
But he gave the rights of all of his songs to the Stratovarius remaining members, and as far as I know something about copyrights, that means he gave up the name of TT in all his songs. Which means the name fits the band, and the band has all the freedom to play all his materialSumerian wrote:He wrote the same songs that you love. It was his baby since 1984...
The Strato guys are exploting Timo Tolkki's music and brand name to make money because they did not have the courage to create a new band like Tolkki. Simple.ggonza43 wrote: And who on Earth is exploiting the name?! Geez man, you're starting to get really annoying!
Yes. Legally they can play everything but morally is it wrong since they perform songs they did not write. And this immoral money-hungry attitude will show through the music. This is why the true fans don't accept Elysium and I am starting to feel this here, slowly...Sumerian wrote: But he gave the rights of all of his songs to the Stratovarius remaining members, and as far as I know something about copyrights, that means he gave up the name of TT in all his songs. Which means the name fits the band, and the band has all the freedom to play all his material
No. I am Jens Johansson. :jump2: :sick: :uzi: :headbang: :pissed2:AAAAAAAAAA wrote:It appears Mr. Tolkki has lost his marbles yet again.
Carry on!
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+1AAAAAAAAAA wrote:It appears Mr. Tolkki has lost his marbles yet again.
Carry on!
:pop:
And since when, if you can tell me in your imaginary world, does Strato turned to be a band that carried with the name because of the money? You apparently know nothing about loyalty; even if Strato was called "Sumerian", they would still kick ass, because the name doesn't matter, but the quality of their music...And you call yourself a real fan, God!Sumerian wrote:The Strato guys are exploting Timo Tolkki's music and brand name to make money because they did not have the courage to create a new band like Tolkki. Simple.
So you're saying that almost 6399 users aren't real fans, and you are? Read my previous post, cause it's useless to talk to someone like youSumerian wrote:Yes. Legally they can play everything but morally is it wrong since they perform songs they did not write. And this immoral money-hungry attitude will show through the music. This is why the true fans don't accept Elysium and I am starting to feel this here, slowly...
They might still be a quite good band to some younger and naive ears who cannot tell true musical honesty, but why must they exploit Stratovarius name? It cannot be called loyalty to release album under this name when the guy who wrote 95% of the songs has moved already to bigger things.ggonza43 wrote:You apparently know nothing about loyalty; even if Strato was called "Sumerian", they would still kick ass, because the name doesn't matter, but the quality of their music...
Maybe it may be fine for now but it will take more than few fans in an internet forum. I truly believe all things in the world come back to you in the end and Strato guys will obviously get nowhere with this uninspired and shitty 3rd rate Stratovarius ripoff I hear.So you're saying that almost 6399 users aren't real fans, and you are? Read my previous post, cause it's useless to talk to someone like you
This is definition of blind worship.ggonza43 wrote:I've now come to the conclusion you are not a real fan like you call yourself. If you were, you would support them even if you don't like their work at all
How many blowjobs did Tolkki give you to come barking here?Sumerian wrote:They might still be a quite good band to some younger and naive ears who cannot tell true musical honesty, but why must they exploit Stratovarius name? It cannot be called loyalty to release album under this name when the guy who wrote 95% of the songs has moved already to bigger things.ggonza43 wrote:You apparently know nothing about loyalty; even if Strato was called "Sumerian", they would still kick ass, because the name doesn't matter, but the quality of their music...
Fuck, most the songs on the latest album are written by Matias. And what he has to do with the band that has been Tolkki's since 1984. There is no honesty here at all and current Stratovarius has nothing to do with real "spirit" from the band which is now carrying the legacy in Symfonia.
Maybe it may be fine for now but it will take more than few fans in an internet forum. I truly believe all things in the world come back to you in the end and Strato guys will obviously get nowhere with this uninspired and shitty 3rd rate Stratovarius ripoff I hear.So you're saying that almost 6399 users aren't real fans, and you are? Read my previous post, cause it's useless to talk to someone like you
I am just a University student in Egypt and am not close to the band. Fuck, I just write my opinions.Febo wrote: How many blowjobs did Tolkki give you to come barking here?It is clear that at least you're someone pretty much close to him. Fuck
It's fine to me...
Yes. That is the Kotipelto you see...Don't feel so important, dudeYou should learn how to be polite and tolerant. Like Kotipelto, who's always nice, smiley and knows how to treat his fans.
You're a joke, that's all you are.Sumerian wrote:I am just a University student in Egypt and am not close to the band. Fuck, I just write my opinions.Febo wrote: How many blowjobs did Tolkki give you to come barking here?It is clear that at least you're someone pretty much close to him. Fuck
It's fine to me...
Yes. That is the Kotipelto you see...Don't feel so important, dudeYou should learn how to be polite and tolerant. Like Kotipelto, who's always nice, smiley and knows how to treat his fans.
Naah, could it be?RazielSR wrote:Seriously people, can't you understand?![]()
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There is more than meets the eye.ggonza43 wrote:What? Do you know TK personally?
He has written 95% of your favorite songs, for fans.febo wrote:He's a good musician, a good composer and a guy who doesn't give a shit about his fans... that's it...
Actually, most of my favorite songs have been written by Yoshiki from X JapanSumerian wrote:There is more than meets the eye.ggonza43 wrote:What? Do you know TK personally?
He has written 95% of your favorite songs, for fans.febo wrote:He's a good musician, a good composer and a guy who doesn't give a shit about his fans... that's it...
And he is not the one who is throwing shit here. He is concentrating on what matters most: the music. Is is you guys, who cannot accept when I simply write my opinions.
I ain't going to get tired of saying this: HE'S A GOD DAMN TROLL PEOPLE!hiro23 wrote:if you say you are a fan of Tolkki why not go onto his forum rather then this one?
I just find it confusing is all
Then you are on wrong forum are wasting my time. Go away, obvious troll.Febo wrote: Actually, most of my favorite songs have been written by Yoshiki from X Japanyou know, someone far more talented than you are, Timo.
Sumerian wrote:Then you are on wrong forum are wasting my time. Go away, obvious troll.Febo wrote: Actually, most of my favorite songs have been written by Yoshiki from X Japanyou know, someone far more talented than you are, Timo.
And almost forgot: FUCK YOU!!
People with mental disorders don't know what they doggonza43 wrote:I'm so desperate for Jens to read all the shit you're writting and kick your ass off this forum!