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Post by Lurdi » Wed Nov 25, 2009 1:15 pm

icecab21 wrote:i think some people need to just ignore anything he makes as if it does not exist rather than complain about it. he will be making music for years to come, if people are going to bitch about his musical taste and expression, why can't they just enjoy what they enjoy and forget about him?
In my case I have been expecting this album so anxiously since it was announced just to realise that I didn't like it at all, that's disappointment. It really pisses you off when those kind of things happen.
But of course I understand other people like it. It's all a matter of tastes.

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Post by Ragehead91 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:08 pm

Lurdi wrote:
icecab21 wrote:i think some people need to just ignore anything he makes as if it does not exist rather than complain about it. he will be making music for years to come, if people are going to bitch about his musical taste and expression, why can't they just enjoy what they enjoy and forget about him?
In my case I have been expecting this album so anxiously since it was announced just to realise that I didn't like it at all, that's disappointment. It really pisses you off when those kind of things happen.
But of course I understand other people like it. It's all a matter of tastes.
Indeed. With all the talk about Tinnitus Sanctus being more back to their roots then Rocket Ride, it being darker and the best Edguy album they got me all hyped up. I think it was the first album I've bough without listening to the samples. And the I listened to it. Back to the roots my ass...

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Post by ggonza43 » Wed Nov 25, 2009 8:59 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:
Lurdi wrote:
icecab21 wrote:i think some people need to just ignore anything he makes as if it does not exist rather than complain about it. he will be making music for years to come, if people are going to bitch about his musical taste and expression, why can't they just enjoy what they enjoy and forget about him?
In my case I have been expecting this album so anxiously since it was announced just to realise that I didn't like it at all, that's disappointment. It really pisses you off when those kind of things happen.
But of course I understand other people like it. It's all a matter of tastes.
Indeed. With all the talk about Tinnitus Sanctus being more back to their roots then Rocket Ride, it being darker and the best Edguy album they got me all hyped up. I think it was the first album I've bough without listening to the samples. And the I listened to it. Back to the roots my ass...
It's according to everyone taste. In my opinion I prefer WAY too much listening to "Vain Glory Opera", "Mandrake" and "Helfire Club". And you are right Ragehead91, since "Rocket Ride" they fucked up the power metal. I hate Tobbias so much for doing that!!
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Post by Intiaani » Thu Nov 26, 2009 1:40 am

ggonza43 wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:
Lurdi wrote:
icecab21 wrote:i think some people need to just ignore anything he makes as if it does not exist rather than complain about it. he will be making music for years to come, if people are going to bitch about his musical taste and expression, why can't they just enjoy what they enjoy and forget about him?
In my case I have been expecting this album so anxiously since it was announced just to realise that I didn't like it at all, that's disappointment. It really pisses you off when those kind of things happen.
But of course I understand other people like it. It's all a matter of tastes.
Indeed. With all the talk about Tinnitus Sanctus being more back to their roots then Rocket Ride, it being darker and the best Edguy album they got me all hyped up. I think it was the first album I've bough without listening to the samples. And the I listened to it. Back to the roots my ass...
It's according to everyone taste. In my opinion I prefer WAY too much listening to "Vain Glory Opera", "Mandrake" and "Helfire Club". And you are right Ragehead91, since "Rocket Ride" they fucked up the power metal. I hate Tobbias so much for doing that!!
Anyway, power metal or not, all of those three just sound hell of a lot of better than Rocket Ride! :P They are hell of a personal style albums each. Rocket Ride is, like, 80s hair metal tribute, no, rip-off, with worse songs basically. I'm glad there's The Asylum anyway. Tinnitus Sanctus seemed bland for me, too. The chart position card is pretty stupid. They make better chart positions because music is more radio (consumer) friendly than ever. Just look at what's Avantasia's most hyped, most often released and damn sure most listened song (on Last FM anyway :oops:). Yes, Lost in Space...

With that being said, I still can enjoy some new Edguy music. I think hearing about The Scarecrow being more pop influenced I kind of prepared myself to a certain change of style. (I don't think I'd heard Rocket Ride before that at all, and to this day I've listened to it two times at max.) I'm very open to this in general as well. Grand an artist the freedom of choice, and you can actually like the newer stuff, or bitch for a minute and then go back to the old that is and always will be good. This, and I can damn sure enjoy the band as well. I was very sceptical with their Fucking with F*** live DVD with supposedly a bad setlist, but once my friend showed it to me, I was totally blown away by their good times and amazing performances.
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Post by ggonza43 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:13 pm

Amen my friend :)
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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:24 pm

ggonza43 wrote:Amen my friend :)
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Post by ggonza43 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:39 pm

Are you drunk A10? I just love to read the shit you type on every thread :lol:
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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Thu Nov 26, 2009 10:49 pm

ggonza43 wrote:Are you drunk A10? I just love to read the shit you type on every thread :lol:
As a young man I took a vow against wine, women and sweets, but I could REALLY use AA and a good dentist right now, oh LORD I have SINNED against you!!! :crazy2: :crazy2: :crazy2: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :pissed4: :pissed4: :pissed4:

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Post by icecab21 » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:35 pm

At least women are keeping you to that vow, two out of three aint bad.

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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Thu Nov 26, 2009 11:51 pm

icecab21 wrote: two out of three aint bad.
What does Timo Tolkki's latest single have to do with anything!? :roll: :roll:

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Post by ggonza43 » Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:48 pm

Jajajajaja nice find :lol:!
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Post by fernandotcl » Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:09 pm

Andre Matos will be in the album as well (link). Not a surprise, but very nice anyways. :)

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Post by Lurdi » Sun Dec 20, 2009 11:36 pm

He could invite Bon Jovi too! I am sure Sammet'd be very pleased and happy if Bon Jovi accepted, although probably Bon Jovi didn't even know who T.Sammet is. :)

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Post by icecab21 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:13 am

if jovi pays attention to charts or anything like that he would know of tobias

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Post by ggonza43 » Mon Dec 21, 2009 3:52 pm

Jovi and Sammet are from way too different worlds, it would be almost impossible if they know each other (I know Sammet would know Jovi, but he maybe wouldn't)
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Post by RazielSR » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:06 am

ggonza43 wrote:Jovi and Sammet are from way too different worlds, it would be almost impossible if they know each other (I know Sammet would know Jovi, but he maybe wouldn't)
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Post by Ragehead91 » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:37 pm

RazielSR wrote:
ggonza43 wrote:Jovi and Sammet are from way too different worlds, it would be almost impossible if they know each other (I know Sammet would know Jovi, but he maybe wouldn't)
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I actually have to agree with ggonza43 on this one. Yes, Sammet sort of tried to look Bon Joviish/Glamrockis and he always was some sort of Diva, but this isn't what ggonza43 was talking about. Sammet is the leader of a german Power Metal bandf which is relatively succesful at the moment and even gets recognition outside of Europe, South America and Japan. But they're not on the same level with Bon Jovi. This guy is propably one of the most well-known rock/metal singers on this planet and still tours around the world, selling out big halls. I doubt Jovi knows anything about Sammet. Maybe he has heard of that funny, german guy who sort of looks like him. But I doubt that he knows who Sammet is and what Edguy and Avantasia are.

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Post by RazielSR » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:38 pm

obviously...I was joking...
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Post by icecab21 » Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:40 am

jovi should know about scorpians and alice cooper and kiss and more and guys from those bands join tobias projects. tobias is working with guys from major groups that have sold over a 100 million albums

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Post by Ragehead91 » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:29 pm

icecab21 wrote:jovi should know about scorpians and alice cooper and kiss and more and guys from those bands join tobias projects. tobias is working with guys from major groups that have sold over a 100 million albums
Why the fuck should he know what those guys are doing? Why should he care? Maybe he doesn't even like those bands. Yes, there might is the chance that he was told or read somewhere that those guys will guest on the album of some german musicians, but I still highly doubt that he knows who Sammet is or what Edguy or Avantasia are.

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Post by icecab21 » Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:10 pm

maybe he does not pay attention to charts and bands that headline major music festivals, perhaps he does, seems a normal part of the music industry that a person would at least scan charts

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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Sat Dec 26, 2009 9:43 am

A brilliant analysis from some of the finest minds on the internet. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Post by Ragehead91 » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:04 am

ANOTHER VOCALIST CONFIRMED FOR NEW ALBUM

On April 3rd Tobias Sammet will unleash what he personally calls ‘the most intense epic’ in his career so far, a two disc continuation of his latest Avantasia album “The Scarecrow” which went straight in the Top-10 album charts in several nations upon its release. The album featured high profile guest musicians such as Alice Cooper, Michael Kiske, Rudolf Schenker and many more and received an award for “Best Rock Production 2008” by the association of sound engineers in Germany.

For his forthcoming releases “The Wicked Symphony” and “Angel Of Babylon” (both albums will also be available in one box set on April 3rd) Tobias has confirmed the following guest stars so far:

Klaus Meine (Scorpions), Ripper Owens (ex-Judas Priest), Eric Singer (KISS), Michael Kiske (ex-Helloween), Jorn Lande (Masterplan), Russell Allen (Symphony X), Bob Catley (Magnum), Jens Johansson (Stratovarius), Alex Holzwarth (Rhapsody), Felix Bohnke (Edguy), Producer Sascha Paeth (ex-Heavens Gate) and Andre Matos (ex-Angra).

And now a new singer can be confirmed. Avantasia fans may be familiar with him, he is the man who has sung the role of Falk von Kronberg back on “The Metal Opera”: Ralf Zdiarstek.

Tobias: “I first heard this guy when I was 15. That's when his band played a little regional gig and me and Edguy were on the billing too. Now, all I knew is that the band featured the guitar player of Kingdom Come, but I immediately fell in love with Ralf’s voice, it blew me away and I wanted to be able to sing like this guy one day. To me he was the mullet-version of Geoff Tate, haha. I called him a few years later and asked him to sing backing vocals on Edguy’s Vain Glory Opera album and he agreed, as long as music and lyrics had no negative or even Satanic spirit or message. Well... To cut a long story short: He ended up on several Edguy albums (remember the Hallelujah-passage on “Theater Of Salvation”?) and a few years later on both Metal-Opera albums of Avantasia – as a lead singer (Memory from the second album). And now I have managed to get him in the studio again for a track called “Black Wings”, it’s a very dark track and the vocals sound very eerie. You gotta check this out, it’s something I guess we haven’t done before. Rambi sings like no one else, he’s got a unique voice and I am happy to have one of my best friends on the album again!”

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Post by ggonza43 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 5:18 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:
And now a new singer can be confirmed. Avantasia fans may be familiar with him, he is the man who has sung the role of Falk von Kronberg back on “The Metal Opera”: Ralf Zdiarstek.
Holy shit! Now I have seen all! So many expectations, but I'm still afraid to be let down by Sammet... once again
But having so many stars, it's hard to expect this to be an awfil album. Maybe this would change my mind

Please Tobias, don't ruin this album!!
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Post by Ragehead91 » Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:59 pm

ggonza43 wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:
And now a new singer can be confirmed. Avantasia fans may be familiar with him, he is the man who has sung the role of Falk von Kronberg back on “The Metal Opera”: Ralf Zdiarstek.
Holy shit! Now I have seen all! So many expectations, but I'm still afraid to be let down by Sammet... once again
But having so many stars, it's hard to expect this to be an awfil album. Maybe this would change my mind

Please Tobias, don't ruin this album!!
Don't make this Tinnitus Sanctus Part II. Or Rocket Ride Part II for that matter.

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Post by Intiaani » Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:56 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:
ggonza43 wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:
And now a new singer can be confirmed. Avantasia fans may be familiar with him, he is the man who has sung the role of Falk von Kronberg back on “The Metal Opera”: Ralf Zdiarstek.
Holy shit! Now I have seen all! So many expectations, but I'm still afraid to be let down by Sammet... once again
But having so many stars, it's hard to expect this to be an awfil album. Maybe this would change my mind

Please Tobias, don't ruin this album!!
Don't make this Tinnitus Sanctus Part II. Or Rocket Ride Part II for that matter.
Won't. He's said it isn't Scarecrow.
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Post by Ragehead91 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:39 am

Intiaani wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:
ggonza43 wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:
And now a new singer can be confirmed. Avantasia fans may be familiar with him, he is the man who has sung the role of Falk von Kronberg back on “The Metal Opera”: Ralf Zdiarstek.
Holy shit! Now I have seen all! So many expectations, but I'm still afraid to be let down by Sammet... once again
But having so many stars, it's hard to expect this to be an awfil album. Maybe this would change my mind

Please Tobias, don't ruin this album!!
Don't make this Tinnitus Sanctus Part II. Or Rocket Ride Part II for that matter.
Won't. He's said it isn't Scarecrow.
I hope that it will be metal at lest.

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Post by icecab21 » Sun Jan 03, 2010 1:06 pm

it is a mix of styles, some metal, some pop, some folk some rock.

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Post by ggonza43 » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:55 pm

icecab21 wrote:it is a mix of styles, some metal, some pop, some folk some rock.
Then it's hard to expect to be "metal". We are making a lot of speculations around this project, so it's difficult to find a comment we are all comfortable with :?
Guess we have no other choice than wait :)
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