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Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:18 pm
by ggonza43
Rebel wrote:I get tired of hearing the same (fringe) opinion again and again on here. I think it's pretty surprising that they even play "Twilight Symphony", but their setlists are comprised of whatever Timo thinks are the best songs for maximum audience enjoyment.
Have to agree there, but it was just a comment my friend. Take it easy

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:29 pm
by Balu
ggonza43 wrote:Rebel wrote:I get tired of hearing the same (fringe) opinion again and again on here. I think it's pretty surprising that they even play "Twilight Symphony", but their setlists are comprised of whatever Timo thinks are the best songs for maximum audience enjoyment.
Have to agree there, but it was just a comment my friend. Take it easy

Rebel is acting so gay today. He has more dick in himself than Dickinson.
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:50 pm
by ggonza43
Dickinson

! No wonder why he has such a high-pitched voice

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Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:12 am
by Polaris
ggonza43 wrote:Dear God! Give these guys a break; they've just finished their latest album which btw hasn't even yet been released...What's the hurry?
Yeah, live day by day & forget about the future!
Let's enjoy Elysium for now & I'm waiting for Stratovarius tour here in South America!

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:29 am
by ggonza43
Polaris wrote:Let's enjoy Elysium for now & I'm waiting for Stratovarius tour here in South America!

I love you Polaris

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Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:39 am
by TheLegendaryDreamer
ggonza43 wrote:Polaris wrote:Let's enjoy Elysium for now & I'm waiting for Stratovarius tour here in South America!

I love you Polaris

!
I think we all love Polaris. In more ways than one.

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 3:41 am
by ggonza43
The user AND the album

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Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:05 pm
by stratodan1990
Rebel wrote:
If you've read the interviews, you know there is NO reason to play really old songs. Most (70%) of the people at a concert want to hear songs like Black Diamond and HHAL. about 25% are more dedicated fans that own Polaris and Elysium and want to hear songs off the new record, and then there is an EXTREMELY small portion of the fans (most of which who post here) who have even HEARD those songs, let alone want to hear them live.
I agree, a very minority of people at each gig will know the first 3 albums, but the band could still consider putting something together. Perhaps on a future DVD after new albums (when they get round to it)? Y'know, even if its as little as 2 songs like 'Future Shock' to finish the setlist or 'Hands of Time'. Would really make it interesting for the longest time fans

especially for the fact that theres no high quality live recordings of the oldest studio albums.
Not to mention that some people consider their first 3 albums to be some of their best work to date (not me but I know people that do). Would also be good because even though the new fans wouldn't know the songs, they would probably appreciate a song or two from 1989 or the early 90's. So i'd say there is a reason to do play a very small portion of the oldest material, because there are fans all over the world that can't go to a gig because of where they live. Like when BG play 'Majesty' live, thats got a considerable amount of views even though it's their first release which alot of people might not have heard. I think the fact older material is such a rarity in the Strato setlist anyway....Would make it worthwhile IMO

not for every setlist, but for a live album or something along those lines.
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 2:22 pm
by eternity_strato
Ok, let me put it this way.
5 songs from the first 4 albums that I would LOVE to hear live, although they won't play them live anymore...
Thin Ice (creepiest song ever, and I love it)
Madness Strikes at Midnight
Night Screamer
Galaxies
Dreamspace
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 4:09 pm
by Syd Barrett
Arnold Layyyyyyne, had a straaaaaange hobby..
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:01 pm
by ggonza43
stratodan1990 wrote:I agree, a very minority of people at each gig will know the first 3 albums, but the band could still consider putting something together. Perhaps on a future DVD after new albums (when they get round to it)? Y'know, even if its as little as 2 songs like 'Future Shock' to finish the setlist or 'Hands of Time'. Would really make it interesting for the longest time fans

especially for the fact that theres no high quality live recordings of the oldest studio albums.
In fact, that was my point but couldn't express it very well. The most loyal and "elder" fans will found it interesting to see those songs live, and for the ones who are "new" at them, it's a great opportunity to see that the band has some great stuffs back in time

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:57 pm
by Kosmo
If my memory doesn't fail me one of the members said that they would not play songs from the three first albums.
Deja vu.
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:33 pm
by ggonza43
Refresh my memory then

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:06 am
by Kecos
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Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:22 pm
by Kosmo
I would love to hear anything from Dreamspace live, but then again..Not. If it's not sung by Tolkki then chances are it doesn't feel like Dreamspace.
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:49 pm
by ggonza43
TK sang "Hold On To Your Dream" countless times
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:05 pm
by Kosmo
Yes, when Tolkki was in the band. And TK version is nowhere near as good as Tolkki's even though i prefer TK's voice in general.
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:09 pm
by ggonza43
It may be, but I prefer TK's in that case
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:13 pm
by Kosmo

You're wrong!
Trying to dig up the info about the band not playing songs from the first three albums, but i don't even remember if it was a video or a text interview..Or an interview at all even!
Edit: Found it! Well..Sort of. An interview with Jörgi from '09,
With no members left from that era, do you play any stuff from the first three albums?
Jörg: I guess we do “Twilight Symphony,” maybe “Dreamspace.”
So appereantly there's nothing stopping them from playing songs from the first three, my memory betrayed me.

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:29 pm
by ggonza43
Dreamspace

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Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:16 pm
by Rage1979
Kosmo wrote:
You're wrong!
Trying to dig up the info about the band not playing songs from the first three albums, but i don't even remember if it was a video or a text interview..Or an interview at all even!
Edit: Found it! Well..Sort of. An interview with Jörgi from '09,
With no members left from that era, do you play any stuff from the first three albums?
Jörg: I guess we do “Twilight Symphony,” maybe “Dreamspace.”
So appereantly there's nothing stopping them from playing songs from the first three, my memory betrayed me.

That would only be weird...
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:52 am
by Kosmo
I just..Don't see them playing anything from the time Tolkki was singing. I don't know why.
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:10 am
by Arnold Layne
Syd Barrett wrote:Arnold Layyyyyyne, had a straaaaaange hobby..
Collecting clothes?
They suit me fine
Arnold Layne
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:03 pm
by ggonza43
Kosmo wrote:I just..Don't see them playing anything from the time Tolkki was singing. I don't know why.
You've just answered your own question

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:28 pm
by Arnold Layne
ggonza43 wrote:Kosmo wrote:I just..Don't see them playing anything from the time Tolkki was singing. I don't know why.
You've just answered your own question

Huh?
Arnold Layne
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:54 am
by adrian9
eternity_strato wrote:Ok, let me put it this way.
5 songs from the first 4 albums that I would LOVE to hear live, although they won't play them live anymore...
Thin Ice (creepiest song ever, and I love it)
Madness Strikes at Midnight
Night Screamer
Galaxies
Dreamspace
I couldnt say that any better! +100000000000
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:26 am
by ggonza43
Thin Ice? Really? That song scares the shit outta me

Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:25 am
by BBBBBBBBBB
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:06 am
by Arnold Layne
ggonza43 wrote:Thin Ice?
Is that a breath-mint?
Arnold Layne
Re: And after Elysium?
Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:23 pm
by ggonza43
The Devil is a crying little girl compared to that song
