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Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:26 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
rikkertje wrote: And IMO it sounded much better with the tape, than with the live backing vocals.
If Kotipelto lip-syncs, it might sound better too :roll:

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:25 pm
by rikkertje
AAAAAAAAAA wrote:
rikkertje wrote: And IMO it sounded much better with the tape, than with the live backing vocals.
If Kotipelto lip-syncs, it might sound better too :roll:
Maybe I should have been more clear. The core of the music (lead vocals, guitars, keys, bass and drums) should of course be played live. But if you can make this core even better with a tape for backing vocals and such, I think that's not a sin.

That's what I meant. ;)

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:58 pm
by Rebel
rikkertje wrote:
Rebel wrote:
rikkertje wrote:I want to ask why you guys don't use the backing vocals track on songs like Hunting High and Low anymore. I liked it a lot more. Not that your backing vocals are bad, I just love the original backing vocals on HHaL.
Because part of the point of a live performance is... well... performing live
True, but I think it is no problem at all to enrich your performance with some technical stuff if it sounds cool. And IMO it sounded much better with the tape, than with the live backing vocals.
I really wonder if you would just be more satisfied if live concerts were just everyone getting together and listening to a CD really, really, loudly. There should be NO part of a live performance that's prerecorded.

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:24 pm
by AAAAAAAAAA
Rebel wrote:
rikkertje wrote:
Rebel wrote: Because part of the point of a live performance is... well... performing live
True, but I think it is no problem at all to enrich your performance with some technical stuff if it sounds cool. And IMO it sounded much better with the tape, than with the live backing vocals.
I really wonder if you would just be more satisfied if live concerts were just everyone getting together and listening to a CD really, really, loudly. There should be NO part of a live performance that's prerecorded.
I would like to defy the laws of boolean logic by disagreeing with both of you. :x

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 5:35 pm
by rikkertje
Rebel wrote:
rikkertje wrote:
Rebel wrote: Because part of the point of a live performance is... well... performing live
True, but I think it is no problem at all to enrich your performance with some technical stuff if it sounds cool. And IMO it sounded much better with the tape, than with the live backing vocals.
I really wonder if you would just be more satisfied if live concerts were just everyone getting together and listening to a CD really, really, loudly. There should be NO part of a live performance that's prerecorded.
That's your opinion. I have mine. :) And so we all are different. :)

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:58 pm
by AAAAAAAAAA
rikkertje wrote:
Rebel wrote:
rikkertje wrote: True, but I think it is no problem at all to enrich your performance with some technical stuff if it sounds cool. And IMO it sounded much better with the tape, than with the live backing vocals.
I really wonder if you would just be more satisfied if live concerts were just everyone getting together and listening to a CD really, really, loudly. There should be NO part of a live performance that's prerecorded.
That's your opinion. I have mine. :) And so we all are different. :)
Your conclusion is touching and beautiful. Please write a song about it. I will dance. :)

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:34 pm
by rikkertje
AAAAAAAAAA wrote:
rikkertje wrote:
Rebel wrote: I really wonder if you would just be more satisfied if live concerts were just everyone getting together and listening to a CD really, really, loudly. There should be NO part of a live performance that's prerecorded.
That's your opinion. I have mine. :) And so we all are different. :)
Your conclusion is touching and beautiful. Please write a song about it. I will dance. :)
I will! Should I use backing tracks or find a live backing choir when I play it live? :lol:

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 1:44 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
rikkertje wrote:
AAAAAAAAAA wrote:
rikkertje wrote: That's your opinion. I have mine. :) And so we all are different. :)
Your conclusion is touching and beautiful. Please write a song about it. I will dance. :)
I will! Should I use backing tracks or find a live backing choir when I play it live? :lol:
:yuk:

:lol: :lol:

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 2:24 am
by JensJohansson
I will now perform an interpretive dance piece in honor of this thread.

There. Now I feel much better!

Regarding in-ears, they are a pain in the ass, we tried them for the whole band with Stratovarius around 2003. I agree with what Lauri wrote. To hear the audience you need a special pair of audience mics... a PITA in other words. And if the monitor mix goes all to hell for some reason (.... and they sometimes do) it really sucks.

Regarding backing tracks, I always felt uncomfortable about the fact that it made the tempos the same as the album -- and very difficult to change on the fly (this was 2003 after all). Very often the songs felt slow in a live context.

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:06 am
by crostrato
JensJohansson wrote:I will now perform an interpretive dance piece in honor of this thread.

There. Now I feel much better!

Regarding in-ears, they are a pain in the ass, we tried them for the whole band with Stratovarius around 2003. I agree with what Lauri wrote. To hear the audience you need a special pair of audience mics... a PITA in other words. And if the monitor mix goes all to hell for some reason (.... and they sometimes do) it really sucks.

Regarding backing tracks, I always felt uncomfortable about the fact that it made the tempos the same as the album -- and very difficult to change on the fly (this was 2003 after all). Very often the songs felt slow in a live context.
Thank you Jeans for your answer, I like it and I like you, haha, just a little bit drunk plus some good music(stratovarius). Anyway, like you....

Re: Technical questions for band

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:07 am
by Plisken
crostrato wrote:
JensJohansson wrote:I will now perform an interpretive dance piece in honor of this thread.

There. Now I feel much better!

Regarding in-ears, they are a pain in the ass, we tried them for the whole band with Stratovarius around 2003. I agree with what Lauri wrote. To hear the audience you need a special pair of audience mics... a PITA in other words. And if the monitor mix goes all to hell for some reason (.... and they sometimes do) it really sucks.

Regarding backing tracks, I always felt uncomfortable about the fact that it made the tempos the same as the album -- and very difficult to change on the fly (this was 2003 after all). Very often the songs felt slow in a live context.
Thank you Jeans for your answer, I like it and I like you, haha, just a little bit drunk plus some good music(stratovarius). Anyway, like you....


lol