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MaFiaBoY wrote:

browneyedgirl wrote:[But, back on topic---Full Moon by Strato is the utmost in weirdo cheese....:yuk:

Along with Thin Ice. This completely shatters (:D) Dreamspace-album imo. Another I can't stand is Freedom, it's just feelingless, as is Glory Of The World.

What? Glory Of The World is not chessy for chrissake! How come u said that? I find it Powerful, with a message, and it has good muzik and Jens. . . he's da man in that song!

Chessiest? Ah! Magic Carpet Ride. . . .Damn I can't stand this song. . . the other day my sis was watching Aladdin and I was like. . . .Did TT saw this movie before writing this song?

Equinox wrote:

MaFiaBoY wrote:

browneyedgirl wrote:[But, back on topic---Full Moon by Strato is the utmost in weirdo cheese....:yuk:

Along with Thin Ice. This completely shatters (:D) Dreamspace-album imo. Another I can't stand is Freedom, it's just feelingless, as is Glory Of The World.

What? Glory Of The World is not chessy for chrissake! How come u said that? I find it Powerful, with a message, and it has good muzik and Jens. . . he's da man in that song!

Chessiest? Ah! Magic Carpet Ride. . . .Damn I can't stand this song. . . the other day my sis was watching Aladdin and I was like. . . .Did TT saw this movie before writing this song?

Jens is the man anywhere, so imo this song isn't special at all And about Magic Carpet Ride, TT certainly got inspiration from the Arabian Nights ( i think it's how it's called in English) tales, so yeah it is related to Aladdin somewhat

Allright, if I get it right, cheesy means those "too happy, the world is so nice and perfect" songs. (when I´m wrong, please correct me).
If my definition above there is correct, I have to say that Elements part1 - except Eagleheart and Soul of a vagabond" is really cheesy.
Maybe the lyrics of Eagleheart are cheesy, too, but to be honest, mostly I don`t care about the lyrics. Music is the important thing to me.

Oh come on. Eagleheart has the cheesiest lyrics and music of any strato song, followed closely by Hunting High and Low. It's a pity they chose those songs as singles, they really don't represent strato's style AT ALL. All the other songs on the albums are very different. The lyrics, everything.

NeonVomit wrote:Oh come on. Eagleheart has the cheesiest lyrics and music of any strato song, followed closely by Hunting High and Low. It's a pity they chose those songs as singles, they really don't represent strato's style AT ALL. All the other songs on the albums are very different. The lyrics, everything.

I agreee those two are really different from all the others on the album, and I sometimes think they were included on it just so they could release a single with them. But they're still very good. Take a guy who is not too dumb but doesn't know about Strato, make him listen to, say, Mother Gaia and then Eagleheart. He will certainly prefer the second one.

I agree that Eagleheart doesn't represent Strato's style, but I think it's still ok. I've got a feeling that when Elements pt.1 was released there were some disagreements inside the band and that influenced Tolkki's composing feeling. Comments?

Wanderer wrote:I agree that Eagleheart doesn't represent Strato's style, but I think it's still ok. I've got a feeling that when Elements pt.1 was released there were some disagreements inside the band and that influenced Tolkki's composing feeling. Comments?

This is well known, just read the lyrics of Awaken The Giant for ex.

MaFiaBoY wrote:

Wanderer wrote:I agree that Eagleheart doesn't represent Strato's style, but I think it's still ok. I've got a feeling that when Elements pt.1 was released there were some disagreements inside the band and that influenced Tolkki's composing feeling. Comments?

This is well known, just read the lyrics of Awaken The Giant for ex.

Or I Walk to My Own Song.

Beast_Pete wrote:

MaFiaBoY wrote:

Wanderer wrote:I agree that Eagleheart doesn't represent Strato's style, but I think it's still ok. I've got a feeling that when Elements pt.1 was released there were some disagreements inside the band and that influenced Tolkki's composing feeling. Comments?

This is well known, just read the lyrics of Awaken The Giant for ex.

Or I Walk to My Own Song.

Or Season Of Faith's Perfection.

Equinox wrote:

MaFiaBoY wrote:

browneyedgirl wrote:[But, back on topic---Full Moon by Strato is the utmost in weirdo cheese....:yuk:

Along with Thin Ice. This completely shatters (:D) Dreamspace-album imo. Another I can't stand is Freedom, it's just feelingless, as is Glory Of The World.

What? Glory Of The World is not chessy for chrissake! How come u said that? I find it Powerful, with a message, and it has good muzik and Jens. . . he's da man in that song!

Chessiest? Ah! Magic Carpet Ride. . . .Damn I can't stand this song. . . the other day my sis was watching Aladdin and I was like. . . .Did TT saw this movie before writing this song?

I like Magic Carpet Ride----I thought it was kinda a love song I thought it had hidden sexual connotations Maybe I'm just a nut who sees sex&love everywhere in every song, etc. Seriously, it sounds like a guy wanting to show some gal he's attracted to how great it would be if she decided to share/spend time with him. That he wants to show her the world(or HIS world)and the happiness&pleasures that exist within. :luv3:

Anyway, I like that song.
btw, Babylon(Iraq) in ancient times was like Las Vegas today----kinda like Sin City. Sorry for the history lesson, but Babylon(the word) is synomous for wild, uninhibited lifestyle etc.

all the "ice" songs are insipid and cheesy

Some of the songs from Fright Night are pretty cheesy, like Witch-Hunt.

Some of the songs from Fright Night are pretty cheesy, like Witch-Hunt.

browneyedgirl wrote:

Equinox wrote:

MaFiaBoY wrote:

browneyedgirl wrote:[But, back on topic---Full Moon by Strato is the utmost in weirdo cheese....:yuk:

Along with Thin Ice. This completely shatters (:D) Dreamspace-album imo. Another I can't stand is Freedom, it's just feelingless, as is Glory Of The World.

What? Glory Of The World is not chessy for chrissake! How come u said that? I find it Powerful, with a message, and it has good muzik and Jens. . . he's da man in that song!

Chessiest? Ah! Magic Carpet Ride. . . .Damn I can't stand this song. . . the other day my sis was watching Aladdin and I was like. . . .Did TT saw this movie before writing this song?

I like Magic Carpet Ride----I thought it was kinda a love song I thought it had hidden sexual connotations Maybe I'm just a nut who sees sex&love everywhere in every song, etc. Seriously, it sounds like a guy wanting to show some gal he's attracted to how great it would be if she decided to share/spend time with him. That he wants to show her the world(or HIS world)and the happiness&pleasures that exist within. :luv3:

Anyway, I like that song.
btw, Babylon(Iraq) in ancient times was like Las Vegas today----kinda like Sin City. Sorry for the history lesson, but Babylon(the word) is synomous for wild, uninhibited lifestyle etc.

Well, it's not like that for me. . . but colors were made for taste.
Hey BEG! thanks for the History lesson, I love history, and I did not know about the meaning of this word, Babylon, BTW I really like this song, the music, and the chorus behind Tk, and that's the only thing I like from Magic CR, the music, but the lyrics are still chessy for me, although what u say BEG

tanis573 wrote:Some of the songs from Fright Night are pretty cheesy, like Witch-Hunt.

EH. . .perhaps, but I like this song 'cuz I've read some books about witch trials in Salen Massachusets in 19 something. . . and I've read what was to be treated like a witch on those times. . .

gabriel wrote:all the "ice" songs are insipid and cheesy

There you could be right. "Tears of eyes" is a little bit strange - an oboe-solo ? That`s strange -, "Thin ice" is bad. and "Break the ice" ...... I don`t know, it`s okay. Are there any other "ice-songs" I forgot ?

i dont think so.....dreamspace album is almost entirely insipid too...

gabriel wrote:i dont think so.....dreamspace album is almost entirely insipid too...

Just wait 'till BEG reads that, she'll go berserk

Haven't heard a lot of Strato still, but the song i couldn't stand listening to for a long time was Full Moon i really hate the voice in that and still find it hard to listen to

According to dictionary:

Cheesiest: from cheesy. Of very poor quality; synonym: bum, cheap, chintzy, crummy, punk, sleazy, tinny...

Hope now you all have a good idea what cheesy means...

lol
:p

Thanx Dr. MikiMaus

htcdude wrote:Thanx Dr. MikiMaus

LOL

Define "cheesy"? Define "gay".
I come from Wotan and I don´t understand you Americans sometimes.
Please try speak 3 year old language so eve I understand. Thank you. sorry.

Cheesey in my opinion: Silly-sounding, poor quality, usually makes people laugh it so pathetic

htcdude wrote:Cheesey in my opinion: Silly-sounding, poor quality, usually makes people laugh it so pathetic

If that's the case, I dont believe there to be any present in Stratovarius... all the songs are very intelligent and convey good, productive thought about the world, love, and life itself.

As i said before...i can't get on with the song 'Full Moon'

Jack wrote:

htcdude wrote:Cheesey in my opinion: Silly-sounding, poor quality, usually makes people laugh it so pathetic

If that's the case, I dont believe there to be any present in Stratovarius... all the songs are very intelligent and convey good, productive thought about the world, love, and life itself.

Did you say that cause TT was reading ? Anyway I also don't think Strato has very cheesy songs... But some other bands have only those like Manowar or Rhapsody for example, their lyrics are the cheesiest ever.

I ahven't heard any Manowar for some reason...but Rhapsody are one of the koolest bands around in my opinion

htcdude wrote:I ahven't heard any Manowar for some reason...but Rhapsody are one of the koolest bands around in my opinion

Sure they are.. But their lyrics... Just read Symphony X' The Accolade, it's very Rhapsody-like but at least 100 times better.

Hmmmm i dunno maybe lyrcially Symphony X are better but i much prefer Rhapsody's music, overall i'd still choose Rhapsody cos i love both music and lyrics

Anyway i'll shut up now

gabriel wrote:all the "ice" songs are insipid and cheesy

Not "Tears of Ice"! Its Great!