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Benphu wrote:I don't like nightwish. I think Strato is lightyears away from them in anything that is measurable between two bands.

Gwah. Strato has 2 or 3 albums that are equal to where Nightwish is nowdays.

And I think that they are pop-metal with infuences from technically more advanced styles, just to say "we're good".

That's not quite true. After hearing Strato's Hunting High & Low and Eagleheart, NW's nemo wont sound all that pop to me.. And anyway, pop means that the music is popular and Nightwish really is that nowdays.

Nightwish is Symphonic/Moviesoundtrack-metal.

I like both bands very much! And after seeing Nightwish for the first time they took a huge step by being so great live band that now i like both bands very much!! Nightwish made an outstanding album Once that kicked my ass pretty hard.

\m/ Stratovarius
\m/ Nightwish

ROK!

I have spoken

Sorry if it's off-topic. Is anyone from here coming to Nightwish gigs in London Astoria this or next Saturday? I don't have a Nightwish T-shirt, so more likely I'll be wearing The Elements Tour T-shirt. If you wanna come up and say hi, you're wellcome

StratoPummi wrote:

Benphu wrote:I don't like nightwish. I think Strato is lightyears away from them in anything that is measurable between two bands.

Gwah. Strato has 2 or 3 albums that are equal to where Nightwish is nowdays.

And I think that they are pop-metal with infuences from technically more advanced styles, just to say "we're good".

That's not quite true. After hearing Strato's Hunting High & Low and Eagleheart, NW's nemo wont sound all that pop to me.. And anyway, pop means that the music is popular and Nightwish really is that nowdays.

Nightwish is Symphonic/Moviesoundtrack-metal.

I know the various meanings of pop. I wanted to use the one which says something about the technical quality of the band, not it's original meaning, what You said, popular.

Anyway, I didn't want to attack them, that's just my opinion. I don't see the similarities between them, if not that they are both metal bands. There actually IS one thing in common, the neoclassical melody-world of the two bands.

Symphonic/moviesoundtrack-metal

StratoPummi wrote:Nightwish is Symphonic/Moviesoundtrack-metal.

Hey nice u brought that up, have u seen that movie? guyz?
Wish I had an angel was picked to be in this movie "Alone In The Dark" along with a band called Godsmack, I am planning to see that movie the next weekend.

dupinguez wrote:I think nightwish obviously plays epic-symphonic-power-heavy-speed-hollywood-mighty-warriors-of-the-holy-sword-happy-gothic-metal

Yep! That's it!

Dave wrote:Tuomas Holopainen always said, that his biggest influences were stratovarius, and that you could hear this on the wishmaster and oceanborn album.. well i couldn't make out any similarities btw stratovarius and nightwish songs except we hold the key and come cover me.. has anyone an idea?

sry for my bad english

I think he meant that Strato was the band he appreciated very much at the time he was putting up the idea of Nightwish. That is easily understood, when you think that he was a young guy from Finland and Strato was already known worldwide. But he took his own way and created a totally new style or subgenre of metal, pulling together influences of several music styles from in- and outside of metal.
He was lucky to have Tarja with her increadible voice for vocals, which became their trademark, but making keys the leading instrument instead of guitar was the bravest shot in the era of guitar heroes.

Now we have bands following that idea, but not too many. Even today, after several years, I cannot see that there are too many or maybe any similar bands to Nightwish. They are very original, always moving on and changing, and thus capable of making the best out of Holopainen's creativity.

And no matter what, Stratovarius are still great, and these two bands have created their own musical paths, not trying to copy others. That is called talent, or should I use the word 'genius'.

And no matter what, Stratovarius are still great, and these two bands have created their own musical paths, not trying to copy others. That is called talent, or should I use the word 'genius'.

Have to agree with that! It's always so amusing to read the endless "What genre is Nightwish?" debates because they really don't fall into any category 100%. I like to stick with what Tuomas said last May,

"I have heard the weirdest descriptions,” remarked Tuomas in the Kitee interview. “Neoclassical, atmospherical, progressive gothic, speed thrash metal or whatever, I don’t know. I would like to think that we are like a symphonic metal band. We definitely are a metal band, even though I think this new album is more diverse. To make it short, it’s symphonic metal for me."

Well, if that works for him, it works for me.