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Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:30 pm
by stratoplayer
ForceMajeure1 wrote:In my opinion the second-weakest strato album after Fright Night. 4th Dimension is ok, but everything it does, Episode does much better. Know what I mean?

not quite, episode has much more soul, but no images come to my mind (second favorite album dont get me wrong)
NeonVomit wrote:I really like it. 'Lord of the Wasteland' is just awsome. Totally awsome, and scary song.
i just listened to lord of the wastelands and it reminded me of the phantom of the opera so fucking much, i do not know if its me or what but the keys and TKs voice brought it like a flashback
"NeonVomit" wrote: Twilight Symphony is absolutely stunning (but the live version on Visions of Europe is SOOO much better!

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could not have said it better myself

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 6:16 pm
by CottonCandy
I like GALAXIES. It's an under-rated song in my opinion.
But I like We Hold the Key, too.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 10:36 pm
by ForceMajeure1
stratoplayer wrote:ForceMajeure1 wrote:In my opinion the second-weakest strato album after Fright Night. 4th Dimension is ok, but everything it does, Episode does much better. Know what I mean?

not quite, episode has much more soul, but no images come to my mind (second favorite album dont get me wrong)
I mean, for example, that while Against the Wind is a good, fast opening track that kicks in with a thunderous guitar riff, Father Time is very similar to it - except better.
For me Fourth Dimension kind of blends Dreamspace and Episode, but doesn't do it in a good way. I think both DS and Episode are much better than 4th Dimension.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:12 am
by cplaya177
stratoplayer wrote:
i just listened to lord of the wastelands and it reminded me of the phantom of the opera so fucking much, i do not know if its me or what but the keys and TKs voice brought it like a flashback
I agree totally and didn't want to start a new topic on it...
But ever notice Elements at 7:16 sounds like Phantom of the Opera too? Lord of rhe wasteland is like the boat scene and Elements is like rooftop scene (or end of act 1 in real show).... crazy.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:37 am
by browneyedgirl
4th Dimension is an amazing album--so very good, IMO.
Against the Wind was the 1st StratoSong I ever heard&I started to like the music at once from listening to that song.
Galaxies is my second fav, followed by We Hold the Key.
The remaining songs are very good as well--even 030366 isn't bad at all!
Koti's debut album--very special to him&the band, I'm sure!
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:47 am
by Paola
browneyedgirl wrote:Koti's debut album--very special to him&the band
Good commentary, I think the same
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:09 pm
by Bones
Fourth Dimension isn't the best album of Stratovarius, but it has their best song ever, We Hold the Key. This release is in the top-3 of Strato.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:29 pm
by Beast_Pete
Bones wrote:Fourth Dimension isn't the best album of Stratovarius, but it has their best song ever, We Hold the Key.
You must be talking abotu the album Destiny and the song Destiny.

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:31 pm
by Bones
Sorry Pete, but I've never liked Destiny THAT much

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:05 am
by Beast_Pete
Don't worry, it's still the best song on Earth.

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 2:30 am
by browneyedgirl
Beast_Pete wrote:Bones wrote:Fourth Dimension isn't the best album of Stratovarius, but it has their best song ever, We Hold the Key.
You must be talking abotu the album Destiny and the song Destiny.


No way, Jose----VISIONS....THAT'S what he's talking about!

But, DESTINY is a terrific song--I like it a whole bunch!

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:09 am
by IceBreaker
Bones wrote:Fourth Dimension isn't the best album of Stratovarius, but it has their best song ever, We Hold the Key. This release is in the top-3 of Strato.
I agree with you. We Hold the Key is brilliant!

Definately a TOP 3 or 4 song (the other ones are Season of Change, Infinity and Eternity).
I agree with you too about Destiny.

Think too that Pete knows that already...

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:52 am
by stratoplayer
hmm, i am much more into the shorter songs, never really enjoy the song a thons, only infinity
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:11 am
by Stratovarrior
The best album is VISIONS, and bes song is COMING HOME!!!!
But from 4th dimension GALAXIES is best song.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:38 pm
by Beast_Pete
browneyedgirl wrote:
No way, Jose----VISIONS....THAT'S what he's talking about!

But, DESTINY is a terrific song--I like it a whole bunch!

No, he can't be talking about Visions, as that is the best album.

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:04 pm
by StratoHeart
ForceMajeure1 wrote:
While Against the Wind is a good, fast opening track that kicks in with a thunderous guitar riff, Father Time is very similar to it - except better.
Agreed in this case. But what about Twilight Symphony or We Hold the Key, or the mid-t Distant Skyes? Episode doesn't reach such the feeling we hear in these masterpieces, I think. Great album, however.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:26 pm
by browneyedgirl
I forgot Distant Skies--that is a cool song, too....about TTs phobia of planes. I guess he is over that by now, hopefully!

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:59 pm
by Beast_Pete
I really like Distant Skies. Maybe that's the best with Against the Wind. I'd like to hear it live one day.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:10 pm
by stratohawk
Fourth Dimension is not my favourite album, because there are some songs that are IMO only good but not very good (Winter, 030366), and I don't like the sound of the album.
BUT: It contains the BEST SONG EVER, that is Against the Wind!!!!! And some other masterpieces like Distant Skies, Galaxies (@browneyedgirl: I agree, that song is kind of neglected and underestimated), Twilight Symphony, Call of the Wilderness (I love to play that one by myself, it's such a cool piece of music)! So it's really a very good album, and it's special for me cuz it was the first one I've ever heard of Stratovarius.
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:40 pm
by browneyedgirl
4th Dimension's album cover art is also terrific!

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:14 am
by Beast_Pete
And the CD cover?

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:32 am
by Stratofanius
4th Dimension has some real strato classics like We Hold the Key and Nightfall (far underrated masterpiece). But then there is also maybe the most underrated song of stato: 030366. Very very good song! Everything is cool and weird. Btw Tolkki's solo is great!
My japan edition of FR includes also Dreamspace live with Tolkki on vocals. Even better than the original album version! AWESOME!
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:59 am
by stratohawk
browneyedgirl wrote:4th Dimension's album cover art is also terrific!

Oh yeah, I forgot that. It's even my favourite Strato-album cover!
Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:15 am
by browneyedgirl
Beast_Pete wrote:And the CD cover?


Thats what I meant

I am a child of the '70s where there were no CDs--only albums, and so I still call CDs, albums!

Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:23 am
by Beast_Pete
For me the album cover is the booklet, and the CD cover is the circular thingy on the CD, so there was no offense or anything like that.
(P.S: for me the albums are the studio albums, and CDs are anything, that is CD... so Stratovarius has 12 albums in my eyes

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Re: Fourth Dimension kicks ass.
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:18 am
by brought2ubyletterC
Nightfall (far underrated masterpiece).
That's one of my favorite songs, I can listen to that several times in a row.