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HA. That monkey thing never gets old.

What scares me a lot is that this really indicates that Bush is NOT evil in his own mind. He really feels as if he's doing right by his actions. And that is what fanaticism is made of.

The problem with fanatics is that, ultimately, they tend to become so extreme that they are shunned even by the religion from which they sprang. Then they break off and form their own cult. Which could be a persistent problem in this case. I think it's possible that this rift in our belief system could give rise to a new, more permanent, organisation of Crusaders. Seriously.

George W. Bush has finally gone completely crazy.

What do you mean, "finally"?!

well, i think as in he is FINALLY showed as a public disgrace who deserves a straightjaket

This one isn't bad either :

http://whitehouse.org/dof/invitation.asp

You're all fools.
If he's Hitler, then congress who voted for his wars are hitlers.
And congress represents USA majority.
So we're all basically Hitlers.
Whatever.

And If Bush says "gold told me to fight terrorism" its really not a bad thing.
All this is propoganda reworded by British media to portray the president in a bad light.

MaFiaBoY wrote:This one isn't bad either :

http://whitehouse.org/dof/invitation.asp

is that a joke?

Dave wrote:

MaFiaBoY wrote:This one isn't bad either :

http://whitehouse.org/dof/invitation.asp

is that a joke?

Wow, that's... certainly something. but yes, that is a joke... still, it feels sort of true. i love the " Yes, for even though you are unsaved (non-Christian), we thank you for your vote! It helped greatly." That was hilarious...


"True Christians™" ... true christians is trademarked? "True Metal" isn't trademarked! not even by manowar!!!

iron_thunder wrote:

Dave wrote:

MaFiaBoY wrote:This one isn't bad either :

http://whitehouse.org/dof/invitation.asp

is that a joke?

Wow, that's... certainly something. but yes, that is a joke... still, it feels sort of true. i love the " Yes, for even though you are unsaved (non-Christian), we thank you for your vote! It helped greatly." That was hilarious...


"True Christians™" ... true christians is trademarked? "True Metal" isn't trademarked! not even by manowar!!!

Of course it's a joke. The White House website is whitehouse.gov, not whitehouse.org

fifthtea_sausage wrote:You're all fools.
If he's Hitler, then congress who voted for his wars are hitlers.
And congress represents USA majority.
So we're all basically Hitlers.
Whatever.

And If Bush says "gold told me to fight terrorism" its really not a bad thing.
All this is propoganda reworded by British media to portray the president in a bad light.

Didn't you see "Farenhait 9/11"?
All the election was a f**k lie. Bush didn't get the most of the votes the first and the second time, that was all fixed up...

MaFiaBoY wrote:
This one isn't bad either :

http://whitehouse.org/dof/invitation.asp

I think it's cool! It just says the true! That f**king bastard thinks he's the owner of the world! And I really think that northamerican people realizes of all this...

Honestly, if you post that link, you have to mention IN THE POST that its a joke, because some people like stratolily here aren't too bright...

I did see Fahrenheit 9/11 and it was fabrication and lies.
I see you openly fell into the mass consensus by watching a decietful video made by a sore democrat after the election. People say Americans are brainwashed, but you guys seem to believe anything you hear from your socialist newspapers and these movies.

Bush did not get his votes 'fixed up' in his second election election.
Thats a ridiculous theory. And so whats wrong with him losing popular vote in the first election? Our nation is run under an electoral college system. If that was a problem, it should have been brought up before the election.

Major democrats (99% of them) including John Kerry stick to their original philosophy that the election was fair. But I'm sure a genius like you can see through that, right?

fifthtea_sausage wrote:Honestly, if you post that link, you have to mention IN THE POST that its a joke, because some people like stratolily here aren't too bright...

I did see Fahrenheit 9/11 and it was fabrication and lies.
I see you openly fell into the mass consensus by watching a decietful video made by a sore democrat after the election. People say Americans are brainwashed, but you guys seem to believe anything you hear from your socialist newspapers and these movies.

Bush did not get his votes 'fixed up' in his second election election.
Thats a ridiculous theory. And so whats wrong with him losing popular vote in the first election? Our nation is run under an electoral college system. If that was a problem, it should have been brought up before the election.

Major democrats (99% of them) including John Kerry stick to their original philosophy that the election was fair. But I'm sure a genius like you can see through that, right?

Hey!
First: I know that's a joke!
Second: I never said that all of you are brainwashed and I've never thought you are...
Third: I hate when you call yourself "american people" like you own the entire continent! I'm chilean, but I'm american too cause I live in the american continent! So stop that f**king way!
Fourth: I don't care about your politic, your electoral sistem, etc. The only thing I know it's that your "monkey-face amazing president" is killing inocent people!
Fifth: In all your posts you kinda insult someone, even in a sutil way...
Think before write anything...

Hmm, this topic is getting pretty bitter. Think I'll step outside for a minute...

well, i think as in he is FINALLY showed as a public disgrace who deserves a straightjaket

Again I am compelled to say, "what do you mean, 'finally'?"

EVERYTHING Bush does should require him being in a straightjacket!

The only reason Bush won the second time is that the alternative to him was bland and unappealing guy without any charisma ... Next time democrats should choose someone much more charismatic or they will whine again for 4 years ...

Shurik wrote:The only reason Bush won the second time is that the alternative to him was bland and unappealing guy without any charisma ... Next time democrats should choose someone much more charismatic or they will whine again for 4 years ...

I'm agree with you Shurik!

Stratolily wrote: Third: I hate when you call yourself "american people" like you own the entire continent! I'm chilean, but I'm american too cause I live in the american continent! So stop that f**king way!

HEAR HEAR

Stratolily wrote:Didn't you see "Farenhait 9/11"?
All the election was a f**k lie. Bush didn't get the most of the votes the first and the second time, that was all fixed up...

With all due respect, the mere fact that something was in a movie doesn't make it true.

stratoplayer wrote:

Stratolily wrote: Third: I hate when you call yourself "american people" like you own the entire continent! I'm chilean, but I'm american too cause I live in the american continent! So stop that f**king way!

HEAR HEAR

LMAO!!! Very well put!

Reminds me of a line from the Disposable Heroes Of Hiphoprisy: "TV is the reason why most people think Central America means Kansas".

Midnight wrote:Heh....... Bush, the new Hitler, in my opinion.

You're an idiot. And so is Bush.

Stratolily wrote:Third: I hate when you call yourself "american people" like you own the entire continent! I'm chilean, but I'm american too cause I live in the american continent! So stop that f**king way!

It's not a difficult concept to grasp if you really try. First of all, there are two American continents, not one. You could call yourself a North American or South American if you live in one of the two continents, but the USA actually has "America" in the name of the country, and it's universally recognized that an "American" hails from the USA, while a "North American" or a "South American" comes from one of the two continents in general.

corruption is all over the world, but I know that someday everything will be revealed.Bush is a total asshole, he thinks he's a god misionary, I don't believe in god but what Bush said was totally crazy " God told me to kill those terrorists " and the problem is that the terrorist think the same way but against occidentals.

Yeah stratolily has reason, I'm chilean too, but not all the USA people is bad, it's true that many use their " patriotism " and power to abuse.Thats why they won some hatred from the other countries.Your country is like the Roman Empire.I don't want to be offensive but I don't have another way of expresion, I know that not all USA is bad but u need to give opportunities to other countrys.First than all you have many songs talking about freedom, they're all a big joke.I really don't understand that way of life.

You're an idiot.

Thank you for saying the first sensable thing so far in this topic.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp if you really try. First of all, there are two American continents, not one. You could call yourself a North American or South American if you live in one of the two continents, but the USA actually has "America" in the name of the country, and it's universally recognized that an "American" hails from the USA, while a "North American" or a "South American" comes from one of the two continents in general.

Thank you for #2!

And honestly with this whole ridiculous and offensive thread, of course it was bound to get ugly. Moderators??

It's not that we call ourselves "American" because we are arrogant, but probably more because "United Stater" does not sound as appealing or does not roll off the tongue as well. Mmm-kay?

Hmm...

*leaving this thread to pick up a beer and check the barbecue*

All the facts in Farenheit 9/11 are true. The way they're presented and the conclusions achieved, however, may not be. But the facts, the cold hard facts, are true and no one can deny them. I.e. the Supreme Court had the final say as to who won the election, not the people. Fact. Al Gore won a larger percentage of the electorate than GW Bush. Fact. Kathrine Harris, the person who was in charge of elections in Florida, was also on Bush's campaign team. Fact.

Some things cannot be denied. And if someone in the street comes to you and tells you that they murdered someone because God told them to, would that be a bad thing? Generally, anyone in the street telling you they did ANYTHING because God told them to would be seen as a maniac. But apparently if you're in the White House it's 'not such a bad thing'.

NeonVomit wrote:All the facts in Farenheit 9/11 are true. The way they're presented and the conclusions achieved, however, may not be. But the facts, the cold hard facts, are true and no one can deny them. I.e. the Supreme Court had the final say as to who won the election, not the people. Fact. Al Gore won a larger percentage of the electorate than GW Bush. Fact. Kathrine Harris, the person who was in charge of elections in Florida, was also on Bush's campaign team. Fact.

Some things cannot be denied. And if someone in the street comes to you and tells you that they murdered someone because God told them to, would that be a bad thing? Generally, anyone in the street telling you they did ANYTHING because God told them to would be seen as a maniac. But apparently if you're in the White House it's 'not such a bad thing'.

yeah, then it is seen as sensible and religious...

I.e. the Supreme Court had the final say as to who won the election, not the people.

Of course the election is confirmed by the supreme court.
It doesn't mean that they changed the results and declared Bush the winner. Seriously, why are you people so stupid and naive? If you hear about some secrete conspiracy in a movie, you suddenly think its true. Moore twists everything and distorts facts to make it seem like an outrage.

And everyone thinks Bush is stupid, and yet he graduated from Yale with good grades, did good on the SAT's, etc. Thats more than most of you can ever boast. What to that?

GW Bush hasn't killed anyone. Hitler didn't kill anyone.

Murderers are the people who follow guys like these. Bush just gives the orders and army must do what he says. If those guys in the army just could do what they feel is right, there would be no war I think.

But I know, it doesn't work.

Apparently that headline was a misquote from something.

I have been spying on this thread for a little bit, trying to figure out a way to add my opinion. Here goes.

People believe what they want to believe. To some, Bush is the root of all evil, incapable of doing anything noble or good. Others believe he can do no wrong, that he and his administration are completely virtuous.

Neither of these theories are correct.

The Kool-Aid comes in two flavors, I won't drink either. There is a large group of people who would believe anything negative about Bush. You could tell them that Bush started the first two World Wars, Vietnam, and was even the cause of the Black Plague and they would believe it, tell all their friends, who would believe it too, and spread it all over the internet.

Farenheit 911 was made by a man who is clearly partisan, a fact he readily admits to. He has no credibility. This man is clearly a mouthpiece for the left. What was he going to do, come out with a movie that was pro-Bush?

The problem we have now is that news isn't completely news anymore so much as it is the opinion of whatever cable network, newspaper, or internet site that delivers your "news". I say this chastising both the left, and right wing media. To help you figure out what side of the fence your media source comes from try looking at other articles and issues that they tackle, and see what side they typically come down on. It is hard to find a media source that is truly even handed. Impossible perhaps in todays world. So it is up to you to believe what you want.

There were some awful charges that the media threw at President Clinton. There were "reports" that he had even had people killed in order to silence them from testifying against him. I find these charges as ridiculous as some of those thrown at President Bush. With all world leaders, there are things that are true, things that are sort of true, and things that are way off base. Since none of us work in the U.S Federal government, no one here can be sure of anything. Myself or any of you.

You can be opposed to someone politically without having to partake in character assassination.

I don't agree with everything President Bush has done, but I don't disagree with everything either. I don't care if anyone here or anywhere else hates the President, or my country, so long as they have reached the decision intelligently, and were well informed.

Not drinking Kool-Aid from someone preaching to the choir.

The world was going to shit before he got in office, and it will still be headed there long after he is gone.

Jesse