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Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:02 pm
by RazielSR
Yes icecab, it's awesome. That's what I think while listening to Stratovarius. Thanks to Stratovarius and these guys, we can have that feelings and many people started to make music thanks to Stratovarius.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 12:08 am
by icecab21
I’m just glad there are not the YouTube comments of telling people they have the wrong opinion. Every band has greatness in its own way and when music gives great feelings that is such a reward. There are lots of great things to come from all these guys and what they inspire is a continuing piece of their own legacy just like they are carrying on the legacy of their own inspirations.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:54 am
by Stratowarius
:o Sometimes one can discern some light in your tunnel Icecar. You can be positiv if you really want and that makes me sort of happy :wink:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:30 pm
by Kay
Hell, yeah! The video is so fun, but the most important thing is: the new stuff sounds amazing!!!

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 6:22 pm
by Skyggeboy
Wow. This new stuff sounds fucking great! Jens and guys are making very good stuff. Can't wait to hear some more of this new stuff :!:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 7:54 pm
by Verdades Parias
The most beutiful thing about this AMAZING :) video, is that the music sounds like Stratovarius!!!, and I'm so fucking proud of this guys.

There are some "Hymn" feelings in this one, GOOD!!!

keep us updated!

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:03 pm
by Aldaron
Verdades Parias wrote:The most beutiful thing about this AMAZING :) video, is that the music sounds like Stratovarius!!!, and I'm so fucking proud of this guys.

There are some "Hymn" feelings in this one, GOOD!!!

keep us updated!
It DOES sound like earlier Stratovarius, yet with something fresh and intriguing. Those guitar riffs are so edgy, I love it! Can't wait for more.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 8:20 pm
by JavyMetal1092
RazielSR wrote:When I listen to Kotipelto's voice in the video....he stills sending to me shivers down my spine.

Cannot exist, cannot exist, will never exist a voice like Kotipelto's voice. Like God cannot exist because his attributes would require limits, it cannot exist a similar voice.

I'm still crying listening Father time, Season of Change, Speed of light, Eternity, LOTW.... And now seeing this guys again together having fun, it makes me feel extremely good.
It's a pity that they (Tolkki and the rest) cannot exist together. Tolkki is the best composer and cannot exist a better one. Jens is the best keyboardist and cannot exist a better one, the same with Jörg on drums.

I will always have this guys in my heart.

Will never exist better musicians. Never. It's my opinion and it is enough for me. And they are here with us, sharing all his emotions.

I just hope to see them playing classics again, because only Kotipelto can sing the classical Stratovarius songs. I don't want to see the name of Stratovarius death, I don't want to forget Stratovarius feelings. Stratovarius will always exist, because Stratovarius is Eternity.
I really agree with all

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:12 pm
by nefertari
Kay wrote:Hell, yeah! The video is so fun, but the most important thing is: the new stuff sounds amazing!!!
I agree totally with this :D :party: :headbang:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 11:04 pm
by Leda Soares
Kiitos LP!!!!

:party:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:07 am
by hiro23
it still has that neo-classical sound which is a staple of their band but it also has some harder progressive elements which I think are reminiscent of Dream Theater.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:29 am
by icecab21
Today friend of mine who is very close to Lauri Porra told me that Lauri played some new Stratovarius songs for him. 4 or so. He said that he was surprised how progressive they sounded, almost like Dream Theater. There was nothing close to the old Stratovarius style, which I think is a good thing. Lauri said that there are no fast double bass drumming songs at all and that the material is quite complicated.
Here is a part of a harvester's rr forum post.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:57 am
by RazielSR
ANd thats my reply:

Listening to the pre-demos in the videos Lauri uses to post in Strato forum, I don't see DT style, I see Stratovarius style, as always. So I don't know if this info its true or not.

Anyway I don't like progressive metal. Just some DT songs (mainly Train of Thoughts), and Symphony X (but they are not as prog as DT)

I don't know if that style is gonna fit.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:38 pm
by LauriPorra
icecab21 wrote:
Today friend of mine who is very close to Lauri Porra told me that Lauri played some new Stratovarius songs for him. 4 or so. He said that he was surprised how progressive they sounded, almost like Dream Theater. There was nothing close to the old Stratovarius style, which I think is a good thing. Lauri said that there are no fast double bass drumming songs at all and that the material is quite complicated.
Here is a part of a harvester's rr forum post.


I can easily confirm this as bullshit.

1. i have not played the songs to anybody yet.

2. If you listen to the pre-demos in the videos you can easily notice some pretty fuckin fast double bass drumming by the great Jörg Michael

3. As far as i see it there are no dream theater influences here as none of us are really into their style. of course it is matter of opinion. ( I always saw some Mozart in sex pistols ) In my opinion we are basically making power metal with some symphonic and some progressive elements added. I´m really into the stuff that we have done and can´t wait for you all to hear it.


now why would Harvester post something like this?

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:39 pm
by Verdades Parias
That 'Harvester' is just the same asshole as 'Mörkö'. People who just play with our brains, saying extremely stupid things, the truth is on the table, THERE ARE double bass drums, speed, solos, and no Jame Labrie :lol: .........maybe WARMEN stuff!!!

So, stop paying attention to these people without balls, cowards

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:55 pm
by RazielSR
Good one Lauri, thit is the only way to stop this nonsense and stupid bullshit.

Verdades, you are completely right.


The pre-demos sound completely amazing and that's enough. We are gonna have very good music, I'm really happy, we, the fans are really happy, the cowards/bastards can go to hell.
Jörg is the best with double bass and we can listen it in the pre-demos, we are gonna have double bass and power metal from that excelent musicians and we are gonna see how Lauri and Matias can bring us new fresh ideas. Really really good.

Stratovarius new line-up is gonna kick all the bastards asses. This is the new Stratovarius and is gonna be GREAT, same style with improvements and new ideas. POWER METAL FOR YOU TONIIIIGHTTT!!! LEGIONNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:04 pm
by Raven
LauriPorra wrote: now why would Harvester post something like this?
Maybe cause "Harvester" hears that those music clips are not anything like Last Viking or Coldness -albums, and he also hears that there's much more "Visions -spirit" than in any Strato albums that have been released after Visions.

Maybe "Harvester" is also fucking scared that your band might work and be more successful than for eaxample band called Revolution Renaissance.

I trust you guys 100% and I'm sure that this future album will bring Stratovarius back on map as one of the Greatest.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:54 pm
by Verdades Parias
Raven wrote:
LauriPorra wrote: now why would Harvester post something like this?
Maybe cause "Harvester" hears that those music clips are not anything like Last Viking or Coldness -albums, and he also hears that there's much more "Visions -spirit" than in any Strato albums that have been released after Visions.

Maybe "Harvester" is also fucking scared that your band might work and be more successful than for eaxample band called Revolution Renaissance.

I trust you guys 100% and I'm sure that this future album will bring Stratovarius back on map as one of the Greatest.
:lol: :uzi:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:25 pm
by icecab21
The guitar solo was a lot higher pitched than previus stratovarius. There is not that singnature tolkki guitar sound. Since it's such a damm great solo i hope the new album is filled with that style of solo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-cXjxg ... re=related

songs like The Spirit Carries On are the dream theater songs i would not mind some simularity to. since it is not so much of a progressive song as a melodic song that is part of that.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:32 am
by mitelika
Now I think what Molko said is right. Harvester's style is very Tolkki. No one eles would say bullshit like this that could easily be unproved. I can hardly think of someone outside the scene will profit from talking like that.
I have never liked Tolkki. He is the one who always behaves like a child. He did not even put an eye on here strato forum. :lol:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:22 pm
by Sillepille
I love this video!
But don't forget working :D
We need the new album soon :headbang:



:beer: :beer: :beer: BIER!!!

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:14 pm
by Aldaron
mitelika wrote:Now I think what Molko said is right. Harvester's style is very Tolkki. No one eles would say bullshit like this that could easily be unproved. I can hardly think of someone outside the scene will profit from talking like that.
I have never liked Tolkki. He is the one who always behaves like a child. He did not even put an eye on here strato forum. :lol:
I'm afraid I now have to agree with you. I've tried to give him the benefit of the doubt so many times and always he's proven me wrong. His style of posting is so obvious and predictable, it's easy to know when it is him. It seems anytime something good happens for the other guys, he tries to swing attention back to himself. That is sad. I'm afraid to think what he will do when the new "Stratovarius" album comes out to great reviews. Hopefully, no one will take him seriously anymore by then.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:51 pm
by Raven
Aldaron wrote:That is sad.
Yes, it's sad, but it's also very sick.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:11 pm
by RazielSR
:shock: :shock: I'm hearing over and over again the pre-demos and are awesome!!!.

I know I won't be able to sleep the day before I have the new Stratovarius album in my hands... :o :o :o

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 4:15 am
by giovannivarius
this is fuckin awesome, i can't wait to hear more :twisted:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 9:12 am
by Mörkö
Verdades Parias wrote:That 'Harvester' is just the same asshole as 'Mörkö'. People who just play with our brains, saying extremely stupid things, the truth is on the table, THERE ARE double bass drums, speed, solos, and no Jame Labrie :lol: .........maybe WARMEN stuff!!!
I am a different asshole than Harvester. :lol: I am sometimes posting news regarding both bands. All of what I have written has turned out to be true, even if some of that unfortunately was painful for someone. Causing pain or confusion is not my purpose in posting, I am friends with some people involved and want to explain things in the face of willful silence or misinformation.

Harvester is posting things that turn out to be false, and he is doing it because he wants to gain attention, and maybe also cause pain and confusion.

And yes, the "Strato" pre-demos are awesome.. just wait until you hear the rest. ;)

As always you be the judge, I don't care.

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:33 am
by stratohawk
Indeed, cool stuff!

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:08 am
by icecab21
Well some of what morko has said is just commentary so that can't be included as truth. The predictions of the future and the hypothesis of the past are not part of fact

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:44 pm
by Stratowarius
:lol: You have your own trueswitness Icecar. :lol: :lol: So sorry to see how some of them accuse you of having no- our wrong- humor. When will you ever learn?? :roll:

Re: Work in progress II

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:47 pm
by AGAG
hey, if you listen closely enough you can hear some words kotipelto sings! (Around 1:25). they sound awesome!!! not like crappy demos!!! yay!