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Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:37 am
by hiro23
It'll be hard to top Gambling with the devil, but as always I'm sure Helloween is up to the task
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:48 am
by icecab21
well they can alway top hat
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:22 pm
by hiro23
Actually they've already done the top hat, just check out some of Andi's pics
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:26 pm
by icecab21
Well I said they could always do it. They could also sometimes do it or never do it again.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:59 pm
by hiro23
I wonder why there is a lack of love for Sascha Gerstner, I mean he has a great guitar style which I believe is on par with both Kai and Roland.
I love the albums he's done with Helloween
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:02 am
by Babylon
hiro23 wrote:I wonder why there is a lack of love for Sascha Gerstner, I mean he has a great guitar style which I believe is on par with both Kai and Roland.
I love the albums he's done with Helloween
I don't know. Probably because he's been in the band "only" for like 6 years. I think he's an awesome guitar player, his style fits perfectly.
hiro23 wrote:Actually they've already done the top hat, just check out some of Andi's pics
And because any excuse is good to post pics of Andi

BTW, he should do another solo album...

Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:22 am
by icecab21
the rabbit is a adorable.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:35 am
by hiro23
Babylon:give it a few more years and people will be saying what a great guitarist Sascha is.
Those pics are funny

Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:15 am
by icecab21
The rabbit will get it's trix too as they will no longer be just for kids.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:19 am
by hiro23
Oh yeah I'm waiting for the day he snaps and tells them "the trix and no one gets hurt"
A lot of people will call it blasphemy but when Sascha came in it still sounded like Helloween I didn't notice too much of a difference, the biggest difference for me mainly was the drumming, although I didn't think it was bad, just different
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:25 am
by Ragehead91
hiro23 wrote:I wonder why there is a lack of love for Sascha Gerstner, I mean he has a great guitar style which I believe is on par with both Kai and Roland.
I love the albums he's done with Helloween
On par with Kai, no. On par with Grapow, maybe. Great guitar player? yes.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:33 am
by hiro23
Don't get me wrong Sascha of course has his own style but I still think he's great and fits in the band perfectly.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:34 am
by Ragehead91
hiro23 wrote:Don't get me wrong Sascha of course has his own style but I still think he's great and fits in the band perfectly.
I never said that he don't. I just don't think he is on par with Kai or Roland.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:36 am
by hiro23
Guess that is a matter of opinion, but I was merely asking the question as to why he's gets slammed on so much by others, it's not as if he's a crappy player.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:39 am
by Ragehead91
Well, with Roland and Kai he has hard footsteps to fill. And I can actually understand that some hardcore fans don't like him. Most of the Hansen and Kiske Hardcore fans don't like anything that came after Keepers II anyway.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:47 am
by hiro23
Oh I understand that he does not have an easy task, however I think he plays great and works his ass off in that band, I mean he's written a ton of songs for them already it's not as if he's lazy.
As far as the hardcore fans of the first three albums go I really don't think they should consider themselves fans as they only listen to just those albums. To me(and this is just my opinion)a fan is someone who sticks with the band through it all, the good, the bad and the ugly.
Those people who like the first three albums should just think of themselves merely as people who happen to like a few albums from the band.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:50 am
by Ragehead91
Well, go and tell them XD Seriously, I'm sick of those guys who keep telling me that "true Helloween" only existed from 1985 to 1988 and that Andi Deris killed Helloween.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:55 am
by hiro23
Oh I've told them before but I basically get the same as you, they keep telling me why kiske is the lord their savior and why Weikath and Deris were the Judas's who killed the band, that Kiske should resurrect himself and restore Helloween to it's former glory and all after he's turned the water into wine.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:56 am
by Ragehead91
hiro23 wrote:Oh I've told them before but I basically get the same as you, they keep telling me why kiske is the lord their savior and why Weikath and Deris were the Judas's who killed the band, that Kiske should resurrect himself and restore Helloween to it's former glory and all after he's turned the water into wine.
What they forget is that he also turned Helloween into shit

Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:16 am
by hiro23
Seriously though they look at him like he's Jesus or something, I mean the guy is a great singer but I completely agree with you, he's too damn arrogant and he doesn't sound as original as Deris.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 11:18 am
by Ragehead91
hiro23 wrote:Seriously though they look at him like he's Jesus or something, I mean the guy is a great singer but I completely agree with you, he's too damn arrogant and he doesn't sound as original as Deris.
Yeah. Those Kiske fanatics are anoying as hell.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:55 pm
by AAAAAAAAA
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:01 pm
by NeverendingAbyss
A fan of AAAAAAAAA
A I see.

Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:43 pm
by AAAAAAAAAA
NeverendingAbyss wrote:
A fan of AAAAAAAAA
A I see.

Haha! I didn't notice this guy. At first I thought I wrote that.
If he ever gets his postcount up this could get confusing really fast

I don't really mind though. His posts seem to be "Best of A10 reruns".
I guess i'm flattered :rotflmao1:
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:20 am
by hiro23
A10:Except he has nine a's and you have ten
Ragehead:What's also funny is the Kiske fans talk as if they are representing the Helloween fanbase

Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:52 am
by Babylon
Ragehead91 wrote:hiro23 wrote:Seriously though they look at him like he's Jesus or something, I mean the guy is a great singer but I completely agree with you, he's too damn arrogant and he doesn't sound as original as Deris.
Yeah. Those Kiske fanatics are anoying as hell.
That they are. Just on You Tube... almost every Helloween video I've seen has some stupid "Kiske foverer" or "Deris sucks" comment.
About Sascha, he sure had some big shoes to fill, but has been doing a great job as a guitarist and as songwriter.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 3:00 am
by icecab21
I think all the YouTube videos have it the other way as well and somehow manage to fit insults of dragonforce in there too. It’s what YouTube comment space is for I guess and one can just hope that sometimes the comments are witty or corny enough.
The new clown has big shoes to fill.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:48 am
by hiro23
Babylon:I agree most of the insults are usually from Kiske fans who want to take a stab at Deris. Sascha I think is great and he had already proven how good he was when he was in Freedom Call.
Icecab:and your right for some strange reason they always throw in some Dragonforce insult, that poor band probably has more enemies then Metallica does.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:01 am
by icecab21
It’s a good thing for dragonforce to have so many haters, since they won't shut up about the band it gives free advertising and more people listen. Have you ever heard of a band that gets tons of hate yet does not get tons of fans as well? The two really go hand in hand I think. With rick rolling that guy has to be rolling in it.
Re: Helloween Guitarrists
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:45 am
by Ragehead91
Actually there is a guy who calles himself "Derissucks" who made it his business to comment "DERIS SUCKS!" on every Helloween video involving Andi Deris.