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Re: Symfonia

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:53 am
by adrian9
andre matos is a great singer, he has recorded some shit , for sure, but I think he is in the top 10 of the best metal singers....at least.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:28 am
by ggonza43
I've stated that "Angels Cry" and "Holy Land" are the best albums Matos had made and they wouldn't be the same if Falaschi sang on them. Besides, I'm sure I will start a huge shitstorm :lol: with this, but Matos > Falaschi

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 6:32 am
by hiro23
Personally I like them both, to me it's like comparing apples and oranges, but I mean seriously if someone doesn't like Andre's voice I would wonder as to what voice they would consider good?

Are these the same people that think that Paris Hilton is the smartest person ever?

Sorry just ranting

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:06 am
by Arnold Layne
hiro23 wrote: Are these the same people that think that Paris Hilton is the smartest person ever?
LOL!

Arnold Layne

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:41 pm
by DreamT
I would say that his voice is unique, a nice breath of fresh air in power metal :-)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 7:47 pm
by RazielSR
DreamT wrote:I would say that his voice is unique, a nice breath of fresh air in power metal :-)
fresh air? The man is not... lets say "new" :lol:

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:20 pm
by ggonza43
RazielSR wrote:fresh air? The man is not... lets say "new" :lol:
Are you afraid of saying he's old :lol:?! Everybody gets older, we shouldn't be surprised :)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:41 am
by hiro23
The point is that he's a good singer, I mean at least he's not grunting like he's in pain :lol:

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:40 am
by RazielSR
ggonza43 wrote:
RazielSR wrote:fresh air? The man is not... lets say "new" :lol:
Are you afraid of saying he's old :lol:?! Everybody gets older, we shouldn't be surprised :)
:D

No, I don't think he is old. for me people around 40-50 are not old. And old is a concept that exists a lot in our minds, cause there are a lot of people with 30 that are older than people with 50.

Anyway, when I hear fresh voice in power metal I think of somebody with two or three albums and not so known, but Matos? :)

And for me Matos will be new in this albums cause I was never a fan of Matos and I never listened to Angra or shaman or his works. for me it sounds something like Sammet or Rantanen. That kind of almost destroyed voice that is cool. I can't say I don't like it. We'll see in the final album.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:12 am
by ggonza43
Indeed, maybe he improved his voice (which I find highly undoubtful :D)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:28 am
by DreamT
RazielSR wrote:
DreamT wrote:I would say that his voice is unique, a nice breath of fresh air in power metal :-)
fresh air? The man is not... lets say "new" :lol:
Of course I meant in the Symfonia context :lol: It would have felt stupid if Symfonias singer sounded like Timo K.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:45 am
by ggonza43
DreamT wrote:Of course I meant in the Symfonia context :lol: It would have felt stupid if Symfonias singer sounded like Timo K.
I smell deja vü :err:

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:58 am
by icecab21
if you found a singer who sounds like tk, by all means, tell me. I'm talking about perfect emulation, not some ambiguous stretched definition where the word "like" no longer has any meaning

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:02 am
by ggonza43
There's no such a singer that sounds "exactly the same" as other. Similar is one thing, exactly like one is another thing

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:03 am
by DreamT
ggonza43 wrote:
DreamT wrote:Of course I meant in the Symfonia context :lol: It would have felt stupid if Symfonias singer sounded like Timo K.
I smell deja vü :err:
How do you mean? My thought is that it's a good thing if Stratovarius and Symfonia have distinct differences. I Love TK's singing, and It would feel wrong to hear his voice poorly emulated with Symfonia.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:03 am
by ggonza43
Don't take it seriously, I was just joking :)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:08 am
by DreamT
ggonza43 wrote:Don't take it seriously, I was just joking :)
I don't take anything seriously nowadays;)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 2:12 am
by ggonza43
Good for you then

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:24 am
by hiro23
As I stated before I would rather listen to Matos then many other singers that sound like they are experiencing extreme intestinal pain.

Although I do understand about singers sounding too similar, I always catch hell from the Kiske camp but I wasn't a huge fan of his voice in Helloween, don't get me wrong here I think the albums he does with them are great but I just don't think he stood out all that much as whenever I heard his voice I kept silently thinking to myself "Geoff Tate?".

Love him or hate him at least Andi Deris makes an effort to sound more unique.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:14 pm
by DreamT
ggonza43 wrote:Good for you then
Cheer up mate :)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:49 pm
by robocop656
Hello mate. :) Would you like go down to the pub after work and have a pint with me? Bloody chuffed! If I don't get my pint after work I'll throw a wobbly.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:51 pm
by RazielSR
LOL !!!

Martin Lane.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:43 pm
by DreamT
robocop656 wrote:Hello mate. :) Would you like go down to the pub after work and have a pint with me? Bloody chuffed! If I don't get my pint after work I'll throw a wobbly.
ROFLMAO :)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:53 pm
by ggonza43
hiro23 wrote:Love him or hate him at least Andi Deris makes an effort to sound more unique.
Those who doesn't like Deris don't like Helloween 8)

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:52 am
by Kecos
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Re: Symfonia

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:03 am
by hiro23
ggonza43:I agree, however don't say that to the Kiske fans.

Kecos:but also take into account that Deris has done way more albums then Kiske so he definitely has more material, plus I don't know how else to put this but I believe that the Deris songs have more "Oomph" to them

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:56 pm
by Kosmo
Gambling With the Devil is the best Helloween album.
Just sayin'.

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:21 pm
by ggonza43
Kiske's albums were great for that period, Deris' for his. Period

Re: Symfonia

Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 12:34 am
by hiro23
I couldn't agree more