Luther_Harkon wrote:I really think that certainly the 4th Reich (or something similar to the 3rd) could be without a lot of problems in the USA. I'll tell you why, & I apologise if someone gets upset with this post.
I'm not saying you're wrong.. the problem to me is "the 4th reich is inside all of us". WE (
homo sapiens sapiens) are actually the problem, not this or that country.
As far as the USA, of course this has been suggested before by many people but I always had my doubts that "it" could happen here. Well, i live here now but I'm not saying this to suck up to the USA. I think the culture makes it much more difficult than it was in early 20th-century Germany, people here just aren't organized and obedient enough
Funnily enough, I think Timo made that song (4th reich) after the German reunification. If that's true, I disagree with him a bit. It could never happen in germany again, I think they have been immunized against it. And at the time, the US was one of the few countries that didn't worry about German reunification. There was much hand-wringing from the British, the French and the Russians. But I trusted the Germans at the time, and so did King Bush the First..
The German people seem nowadays to be some of the most dedicated pacifists in the world. They know from bitter experience that starting wars and getting blood on your hands is NOT something you should do lightly. Before you know it 70 million people could be dead. Ooops!
This "hitler" song issue is just one more example. I think I trust the Germans more than they trust themselves!
I don't think they will start marching toward the polish border like robots just because they heard the voice of the Führer on a CD..
1. There's no true freedom of speech. Everything published in the USA has to go through the goverment, and they tell if it's good or not.
This however, is factually wrong! The US is one of the few places on Earth which does have a (to me) very reasonable balance between unrestricted free speech and the laws.
Yes, the TV thing that you mentioned sucks ass! I think Americans can handle seeing an image of a tit arranged on some phosphor dots just as well as any other kind of
homo sapiens sapiens. This will change over time, it's due to the power of the FCC to regulate the radio spectrum and it's basically a hangover from the fifties. The FCC can't regulate the Internet and it can't regulate satellite radio for instance. Technology will reduce the FCC's power to censor away those harmful phosphor patterns of breasts. There is no speech law on the books though, just FCC rules because at the time the radio spectrum was a limited commodity and neede to be regulated in an orderly fashion. FCC then just kept gobbling up this power because TV became such a powerful medium. All that is changing in the next few years.
Germany and many other countries in Europe have actual laws on the books which restrict certain political speech. And it was not many years ago that eg Finland had a religious blasphemy law.
The US has nothing of the kind whatsoever, and has never had, laws like this.
2. There are very restrective laws, specially for youth. In some States, if you mantain a sexual relation with a girl under 18, although she wanted, you're gonna go to jail & be in a list of sexual agressors....
This is true, the age of consent is a few years higher in some parts of the US than in Europe. In Sweden it's 15. In Finland 16 (I think). (Annoying when you are young and single, but bot so much an issue when it comes to a possible dictatorship however!)
3. It's legal for everyone to have a weapon at home... :uzi:
I've lived all my life without any weapon (apart from the swords that I collect) and nobody tried to kill me
This is true and it's a real problem. But you wonder how this fact would work if a Hitler-style dictator would try to take over the USA? If you want to try to round up all the black people and send them to camps, for instance, it would of course be much easier if they are unarmed. I'm not saying this isn't a problem but I don't think has much to do with the "4th reich USA" question..
4. There's a high level of christian fanatism. They criticize middle-east countries because they mention God in all their laws... But which is the last sentence of the president of the USA when he finishes a speech... GOD BLESS AMERICA!
This is also true! The cristian nuts fight tooth and nail to get god back into government and law but there is real and fierce resistance at every step. Because the whole country was founded on the idea of getting away from that European shit, state church, state religion, no elections, a king which is born to rule, etc.
Founding the US was a very radical political experiment at the time. Indeed, a "left wing" experiment.
If you think King George Bush II will some day rule the USA with an iron fist and put all the black people in camps, you should keep in mind that the US was founded on the idea of getting rid of an Infallible Führer... who was also called King George by the way!
Not too many diferences. And there are also groups who pretend to make the 2nd law of thermodynamics illegal, because this physical law makes impossible the existence of a perfect paradise in heaven. :pissed2: (Im studying physics)
Also true. Well I haven't heard much about thermodynamics, but evolution is under heavy attack. Nobody takes these people very seriously though.
all that islam fanatism it's just the consequence of centuries of opressions by the "civilized" countries (I include my country in this group)
I see it as "they didn't have a proper and thorough enlightenment like we did". So in a sense they might have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century. I myself disagree with the way the US is conducting its foreign policy at the moment (I have even bigger problems with what the Bush administration is doing to the US economy.) But I have no doubt that Islam will have to lose a lot of its "6th century style" belief system -- one way or another.
Keep eatin' metal & shittin chains! :headbang:
Oh, believe me you, we will
It's pretty sad, but here the law is very clear about that aswell. Ridiculous, but you have to understand, sometimes it's hard to make sure that the youngster KNOWS what he/she's doing.
That's a very serious matter, and unfortunately it requires a change in the way people think to make it right 
Ohwell, we'll just have to wait. Over here, the Government was always talking about God aswell, and on their defeat speech at the election night (yeah, they lost, thankfully 
how could you ? 
