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Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:01 pm
by Intiaani
And at the end, the king reincarnates and ultimately becomes the king again?
Also, guys like Patrik Johansson, Johnny Gioeli, Chris Boltendahl and Sebastian fucking Bach would be perfect for Avantasia.

Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:19 pm
by Ragehead91
I don't know about that. Both Owens and Scheepers were/would've been great replacements for Halford. And I think if this really should become a Avantasia song, we have to fit Tobi's Charakter into it somehow.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:27 pm
by Intiaani
Ragehead91 wrote:I don't know about that. Both Owens and Scheepers were/would've been great replacements for Halford. And I think if this really should become a Avantasia song, we have to fit Tobi's Charakter into it somehow.
Tobi's the fool of the court. Kiske is of course the narrator. Andre Matos and the others, of course, are King's royal soldiers, writing down their own thoughts about the kingdom, sending love letters, etc.

Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:17 pm
by Ragehead91
Intiaani wrote:Ragehead91 wrote:I don't know about that. Both Owens and Scheepers were/would've been great replacements for Halford. And I think if this really should become a Avantasia song, we have to fit Tobi's Charakter into it somehow.
Tobi's the fool of the court. Kiske is of course the narrator. Andre Matos and the others, of course, are King's royal soldiers, writing down their own thoughts about the kingdom, sending love letters, etc.

Actually the Halford/Scheepers/Owens thing should only be one song, not a whole album XD
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:37 pm
by Intiaani
Ragehead91 wrote:Intiaani wrote:Ragehead91 wrote:I don't know about that. Both Owens and Scheepers were/would've been great replacements for Halford. And I think if this really should become a Avantasia song, we have to fit Tobi's Charakter into it somehow.
Tobi's the fool of the court. Kiske is of course the narrator. Andre Matos and the others, of course, are King's royal soldiers, writing down their own thoughts about the kingdom, sending love letters, etc.

Actually the Halford/Scheepers/Owens thing should only be one song, not a whole album XD
Oh.
So far, Tobi, Meine, Owens, Catley and Lande confirmed, say? Sounds extremely good, as always. ^^
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:54 pm
by Ragehead91
I think it is save to say that Kiske will also sing a song or 2.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:13 pm
by icecab21
he should get jovi a part for the 1 percent of people that think of jovi when they think of sammet
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:03 pm
by Ragehead91
A king is rulling his kingdom. Than an evil impostor comes along and pretends to be the king. Guess who plays the role of the king and who gets to play the impostor? XD
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 2:53 pm
by Ragehead91
MICHAEL KISKE RETURNS TO AVANTASIA
After Bob Catley (Magnum), Eric Singer (KISS), Alex Holzwarth (Rhapsody Of Fire), Klaus Meine (Scorpions), Jorn Lande (Masterplan) and Tim "Ripper" Owens (ex-Judas Priest) another voice can be announced for the next Avantasia album: Ex-Helloween voice Michael Kiske who has appeared on every Avantasia album so far, even already on the two early classics "The Metal Opera" has been back in the studio to sing his parts for the next journey to Avantasia.
Tobias: "Michael's voice and singing have had a huge influence on me when I was young. Helloween's "Eagle Fly Free" lit the spark for me back then, it made me want to become a singer at age 12. Michael appears on several songs, two are fast and anthemic tunes, my personal "Eagle-Fly-Frees" if you want. Crystal clear and high singing. If up-tempo music sounds like that, I don't get tired of it. And still it is not a copy of early Helloween or early Avantasia. It's great to have Michael sing those kinds of tunes. He's a good guy! Great job, great voice!
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:15 pm
by fernandotcl
Well, if he's comparing somehow two of the songs in the album to
Eagle Fly Free, then there's hope...

Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 5:25 pm
by Ragehead91
Eagle Fly Free = Power Metal = No Crappy Edguy Heavy Rock = Happy Ragehead
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:42 pm
by Intiaani
RUSSELL ALLEN! ;O~~~
Gee willickers, is this gonna be swell!
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:00 am
by Ragehead91
To hear Russell Allen is always nice. But I doubt that the album will be released in 2009.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:29 am
by RazielSR
RUSSELL ALLEN?!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's FUCKING RUSSEL ALLEN!!! I just hope that he will sing more than one song!
I-N-C-R-E-D-I-B-L-E
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
Now I wanna hear Labrie and Kotipelto too!!!!
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:31 am
by Lurdi
RazielSR wrote:RUSSELL ALLEN??????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's FUCKING RUSSEL ALLEN!!! I just hope that he will sing more than one song!
I-N-C-R-E-D-I-B-L-E
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
Now I wanna hear Labrie and Kotipelto too!!!!
I expected you to be hoppy about this

Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:18 am
by AAAAAAAAAA
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:43 pm
by Lurdi
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:53 pm
by Intiaani
I still didn't get whether that was a comment on me misspelling his first name or was the one L on the latter name your own mistake. I don't know how it's spelled and I can't bother to take a look. x) Oh, but I don't care. I'm hoppy too!

Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:25 pm
by Lurdi
Avantasia's next albums' titles have already been revealed:
- The Wicked Symphony
- Angel of Babylon
Both of them are expected to be released in 2010. I am really looking forward to listening to these albums.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 8:40 pm
by icecab21
awsome titles
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people
Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 9:55 pm
by ggonza43
Sammet: Well, it always does. It's a tradition for everything I've done. "The Metal Opera" did, because it wasn't fashionable; "The Scarecrow" did because it wasn't fashionable and it wasn't "The Metal Opera". And this one will do as well, 'cause it isn't fashionable, it isn't "The Metal Opera" and it isn't "The Scarecrow". It's just enchanting music.
Yeah right

Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 2:19 pm
by RazielSR
I'm not sure about what to think about the titles...The titles are cool and ok, but it seems to me (judging by the titles) that these new albums will be kindda the metal operas... And I prefer the Scarecrow album a lot. Anyway, time will tell.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:14 pm
by Intiaani
RazielSR wrote:I'm not sure about what to think about the titles...The titles are cool and ok, but it seems to me (judging by the titles) that these new albums will be kindda the metal operas... And I prefer the Scarecrow album a lot. Anyway, time will tell.
I thought they were in Mandrake and Hellfire Club style.

I'm still waiting for some genre fusion thingy, possibly something epic AOR like with many ballads by Kiske, Meine and Tobi etc.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:39 pm
by Ragehead91
Intiaani wrote:RazielSR wrote:I'm not sure about what to think about the titles...The titles are cool and ok, but it seems to me (judging by the titles) that these new albums will be kindda the metal operas... And I prefer the Scarecrow album a lot. Anyway, time will tell.
I thought they were in Mandrake and Hellfire Club style.

I'm still waiting for some genre fusion thingy, possibly something epic AOR like with many ballads by Kiske, Meine and Tobi etc.
FUCK NO! Tobias already drove Edguy against the wall music-wise if you're a Power Metal enthusiast and I don't want to see the same shit happening with Avantasia too!
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:50 pm
by Intiaani
Ragehead91 wrote:Intiaani wrote:RazielSR wrote:I'm not sure about what to think about the titles...The titles are cool and ok, but it seems to me (judging by the titles) that these new albums will be kindda the metal operas... And I prefer the Scarecrow album a lot. Anyway, time will tell.
I thought they were in Mandrake and Hellfire Club style.

I'm still waiting for some genre fusion thingy, possibly something epic AOR like with many ballads by Kiske, Meine and Tobi etc.
FUCK NO! Tobias already drove Edguy against the wall music-wise if you're a Power Metal enthusiast and I don't want to see the same shit happening with Avantasia too!
Well, I am, yet I'm not complaining (that much) even though I like older Edguy more as well. Actually Hellfire Club and Vain Glory Opera are my favorite albums.
But... but... but it sure seems like it's going to be softer!

Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:38 pm
by Ragehead91
Intiaani wrote:Ragehead91 wrote:Intiaani wrote:
I thought they were in Mandrake and Hellfire Club style.

I'm still waiting for some genre fusion thingy, possibly something epic AOR like with many ballads by Kiske, Meine and Tobi etc.
FUCK NO! Tobias already drove Edguy against the wall music-wise if you're a Power Metal enthusiast and I don't want to see the same shit happening with Avantasia too!
Well, I am, yet I'm not complaining (that much) even though I like older Edguy more as well. Actually Hellfire Club and Vain Glory Opera are my favorite albums.
But... but... but it sure seems like it's going to be softer!

I hope it is like Scarecrow. Apart from maybe 1 or 2 Songs this album was gut. The worst thing that could happen would be if they take the same path music-wise as they did with Edguy and Tinnitus Sanctus.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:41 pm
by Lurdi
Ragehead91 wrote:Intiaani wrote:Ragehead91 wrote:
FUCK NO! Tobias already drove Edguy against the wall music-wise if you're a Power Metal enthusiast and I don't want to see the same shit happening with Avantasia too!
Well, I am, yet I'm not complaining (that much) even though I like older Edguy more as well. Actually Hellfire Club and Vain Glory Opera are my favorite albums.
But... but... but it sure seems like it's going to be softer!

I hope it is like Scarecrow. Apart from maybe 1 or 2 Songs this album was gut. The worst thing that could happen would be if they take the same path music-wise as they did with Edguy and Tinnitus Sanctus.
I hope they don't.I just cannot put up with their last album...
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:46 pm
by fernandotcl
I only hope it's nothing like anything Tobias created after Rocket Ride.
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 2:52 am
by icecab21
i think some people need to just ignore anything he makes as if it does not exist rather than complain about it. he will be making music for years to come, if people are going to bitch about his musical taste and expression, why can't they just enjoy what they enjoy and forget about him?
Re: Sammet: The next Avantasia "will surely piss people off
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 12:41 pm
by Intiaani
icecab21 wrote:i think some people need to just ignore anything he makes as if it does not exist rather than complain about it. he will be making music for years to come, if people are going to bitch about his musical taste and expression, why can't they just enjoy what they enjoy and forget about him?
My opinion, too, if they otherwise bitch even after 30 years that Edguy hasn't offered anything special since Hellfire Club.
