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Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:39 pm
by Rage1979
Ragehead91 wrote:
Rage1979 wrote:Who is the new new keyboardsplayer in RR?
They don't have one.
I haven't heard anything yet either.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:29 pm
by gnurt_gp
What the hell happening in this topic? of course the ID "TimoTolkki" is fake. And what about the bs SinisterStar spreading around? Or I miss something and this thread means to be a joke? At least, please, people, have some respect to the guy. And I hate ID stolen like the "TimoTolkki" ID in this forum

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 8:34 pm
by Rebel
gnurt_gp wrote:What the hell happening in this topic? of course the ID "TimoTolkki" is fake. And what about the bs SinisterStar spreading around? Or I miss something and this thread means to be a joke? At least, please, people, have some respect to the guy. And I hate ID stolen like the "TimoTolkki" ID in this forum
The id isn't Timo ToLkki, its Timo ToIkki
capital I instead of an l, if everyone was cool enough to set their board style to Igloo, that difference would be clear.
And, fatty earned all this by lying to his fans. Repeatedly.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:26 pm
by icecab21
NEWS ABOUT MY BOOK
After a lot of thinking, feeling and getting some distance to my book, I have come to a conclusion that much of the book was written in anger and doesn't represent accurately how things are/were. I cannot release something like that.
Specifically the parts of the book concerning some of the Stratovarius members were
written in much anger and even vengeance. I do not want to generate negativity and hatred, after all this time I am thankful to the guys for some of the best years and moments in my life. And I believe Stratovarius deserves a really well written book, when the time is right.
I set out to write my own book with the help of a Finnish publisher LIKE, the same that published Nightwish book. Somewhere along the way, I got lost.
If my book will ever see the light of the day, it will concentrate more on my personal life and my childhood and of course, music. In these things I believe that my experiences can actually be helpful to some people. It has not been an easy ride.
Thank you for understanding and sorry for you who have been expecting the book. It will take more time now that I am reviewing what to actually put in there.
here is news about the book. i think he made the right decision

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 10:55 pm
by MetalNat
He's a real humanitarian, dare I even say it?!? yes I will... He's like Bono he is just like Bono. But if he's gonna start to talk about saving the whales I think he's got a selfish hidden agenda.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:23 pm
by RazielSR
I think is the right decision too. He loves Stratovarius, it was his life, and he knows how to deal with this book the way it should be.
A book about his life could be something really interesting for us, the fans.
So, it's better to have the book without hate against Stratovarius. I don't like to remember that beautiful songs that he wrote and thinking at the same time that there's a book plenty of hate out there released for the same author.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:49 pm
by gnurt_gp
Rebel wrote: The id isn't Timo ToLkki, its Timo ToIkki
capital I instead of an l, if everyone was cool enough to set their board style to Igloo, that difference would be clear.
And, fatty earned all this by lying to his fans. Repeatedly.
he had some difficult moments. Everybody has. May be he is an introvert (introspective or whatever - my bad English). I myself is a introvert and I know it. When I am thinking too much on one thing, I can be contradict to my previous view. I also experience some hopeless, desperate, lonely moments, and I can tell that those moment are not very nice. I am not speaking for Timo but I think I might understand something he faced, so people, please have some respect to him. His music has so much feeling on it and I love it.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:29 pm
by Rebel
gnurt_gp wrote:
Rebel wrote: The id isn't Timo ToLkki, its Timo ToIkki
capital I instead of an l, if everyone was cool enough to set their board style to Igloo, that difference would be clear.
And, fatty earned all this by lying to his fans. Repeatedly.
he had some difficult moments. Everybody has. May be he is an introvert (introspective or whatever - my bad English). I myself is a introvert and I know it. When I am thinking too much on one thing, I can be contradict to my previous view. I also experience some hopeless, desperate, lonely moments, and I can tell that those moment are not very nice. I am not speaking for Timo but I think I might understand something he faced, so people, please have some respect to him. His music has so much feeling on it and I love it.
Having "Difficult moments" is one thing. But he, as a public figure and a musician, has a responsibility to the fans that make everything about his life possible, and by lying to them, repeatedly, by defaming his bandmates, and everything else he's done in these times, he has lost my respect, and has earned everything the fans are throwing at him.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:50 pm
by ggonza43
I said it before, and I'm saying it again: STOP WITH THIS STUPID TOPIC! We all know that Tolkki-fake ID is a real asshole, and like you all guys said, the real one needs our respect. So please, pretty please, let's don't pay attention to this kind of bullshit, and stop posting things here :)

BTW, great decision he made with the book

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:36 am
by miditek
browneyedgirl wrote:Whats TT's day job? ???

Running errands for the Finnish mafia? :lol:

I'm joking. Seriously, he cannot be serious! TT giving up music would be like Rosie O'Donnell giving up p----- pastry! :D
There is an undeniably strong resemblance between the two:

Rosie O'Donnell

Image

Timo O'Tolkki

Image

And both are dedicated Pinkos to boot! :lol:

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:37 am
by Rebel
miditek wrote:
browneyedgirl wrote:Whats TT's day job? ???

Running errands for the Finnish mafia? :lol:

I'm joking. Seriously, he cannot be serious! TT giving up music would be like Rosie O'Donnell giving up p----- pastry! :D
There is an undeniably strong resemblance between the two:

Rosie O'Donnell

Image

Timo O'Tolkki

Image

And both are dedicated Pinkos to boot! :lol:
Wow. BEG makes a funny joke and you turn it political.
Way.
To.
Go.

Would you like me to show you the door or would you kindly just GTFO on your own?

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:58 am
by miditek
Rebel wrote:
miditek wrote:
browneyedgirl wrote:Whats TT's day job? ???

Running errands for the Finnish mafia? :lol:

I'm joking. Seriously, he cannot be serious! TT giving up music would be like Rosie O'Donnell giving up p----- pastry! :D
There is an undeniably strong resemblance between the two:

Rosie O'Donnell

Image

Timo O'Tolkki

Image

And both are dedicated Pinkos to boot! :lol:
Wow. BEG makes a funny joke and you turn it political.
Way.
To.
Go.

Would you like me to show you the door or would you kindly just GTFO on your own?
Easy now, little fan-boy. I think you forgot to ingest today's dose of Ritalin(tm). ;)

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:33 pm
by browneyedgirl
Rosie needs to shave! :shock:

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 5:20 pm
by ggonza43
For sure :D!

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:36 pm
by Aldaron
NEWS ABOUT MY BOOK
After a lot of thinking, feeling and getting some distance to my book, I have come to a conclusion that much of the book was written in anger and doesn't represent accurately how things are/were. I cannot release something like that.
Specifically the parts of the book concerning some of the Stratovarius members were
written in much anger and even vengeance.
Gee, ya think? Regardless of what he said in the beginning, that was pretty much obvious just about from the start. Glad he came to his senses - for now. I hope it sticks. His history of flip flopping from magnanimous to vindictive is lengthy.

The only way the bitching and mocking are ever going to end is for him to develop a track record of honesty and decency. It's going to take awhile. People have been deceived and hurt. It doesn't go away over night.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:50 pm
by miditek
browneyedgirl wrote:Rosie needs to shave! :shock:
And buy stock in Gillete Corp.- she could be her own best customer! :lol:

NeoTolkki(tm) would be proud of her.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:30 pm
by ggonza43
Why you say that? Does Tolkki need a deeper shave :lol:?

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:57 pm
by korruptorius
browneyedgirl wrote:Rosie needs to die!
:D

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:10 am
by Galanor
gnurt_gp wrote:
Rebel wrote: The id isn't Timo ToLkki, its Timo ToIkki
capital I instead of an l, if everyone was cool enough to set their board style to Igloo, that difference would be clear.
And, fatty earned all this by lying to his fans. Repeatedly.
he had some difficult moments. Everybody has. May be he is an introvert (introspective or whatever - my bad English). I myself is a introvert and I know it. When I am thinking too much on one thing, I can be contradict to my previous view. I also experience some hopeless, desperate, lonely moments, and I can tell that those moment are not very nice. I am not speaking for Timo but I think I might understand something he faced, so people, please have some respect to him. His music has so much feeling on it and I love it.
I myself have been in a similar situation in which I parted from a band I dedicated my life and money to...at first, you really hate the others, but after a while you realize that it only costs energy. I made up with the one person I hated the most in particular and now we are friends again. He even volunteered to do guitarduty during our rehearsals for the Timo Tolkkigig in which we are the support band (rehearsing without guitars is boring....) and we are playing in some other projects as well. Life feels so much better now, so good call from Timo in this case too I would say!

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:13 am
by Galanor
Ragehead91 wrote:
Rage1979 wrote:Who is the new new keyboardsplayer in RR?
They don't have one.
I am trying to....emphasize trying :D :D

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:29 pm
by ggonza43
Galanor wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:
Rage1979 wrote:Who is the new new keyboardsplayer in RR?
They don't have one.
I am trying to....emphasize trying :D :D
:?: :?: :?:

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:28 pm
by DreamT
miditek wrote:
Rebel wrote:
miditek wrote: There is an undeniably strong resemblance between the two:

Rosie O'Donnell

Image

Timo O'Tolkki

Image

And both are dedicated Pinkos to boot! :lol:
Wow. BEG makes a funny joke and you turn it political.
Way.
To.
Go.

Would you like me to show you the door or would you kindly just GTFO on your own?
Easy now, little fan-boy. I think you forgot to ingest today's dose of Ritalin(tm). ;)
Well...photoshopping pictures of Rosie O'Donnell is really a sign of having way too much free time, whick could be a sign of that you indeed are a loser.

It's really fun to follow these threads as they always seem to lose focus quite early on, and there's really no discussion, only people throwing shit at each other.

Mr. Tolkki surely hasn't made all-good desicions in his life, I'm not saying that. But he's an official person in this matter, and you're only a nickname that can write as much shit as you like. No one can really offend you, since the don't know who you really are.

Grow up, and support the band that you probably still listen to, since you got here in the first place.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 5:18 pm
by robocop656
Image

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:04 pm
by ggonza43
Image

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:12 pm
by DreamT
ggonza43 wrote:Image
Was that all you had? :-)

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:58 am
by miditek
ggonza43 wrote:Why you say that? Does Tolkki need a deeper shave :lol:?
No- not at all. Rosie needs to shave more often- otherwise Donald Trump may follow through on his threat and steal her girlfriend! Tolkki needs to actually grow a beard, and a Fu Manchu mustache! :lol:
DreamT wrote:Well...photoshopping pictures of Rosie O'Donnell is really a sign of having way too much free time, whick could be a sign of that you indeed are a loser.
I can't take credit for something I didn't actually create- that would be plagiarism. The O'Donnell photo is a semi well-known gag that has shown up on more than a few Facebook pages.

I think Strato are a great band, and actually buy their albums, and also think the new relase is their best work in years. The last time I checked, Tolkki was not only no longer with them, but pulled a Captain Ahab and did his damndest to destroy it while he was at the helm. ;)

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:35 am
by icecab21
that last album is also their only work in years.

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:51 pm
by ggonza43
miditek wrote:
ggonza43 wrote:Why you say that? Does Tolkki need a deeper shave :lol:?
No- not at all. Rosie needs to shave more often- otherwise Donald Trump may follow through on his threat and steal her girlfriend! Tolkki needs to actually grow a beard, and a Fu Manchu mustache! :lol:
Did you picture Tolkki with a Pancho Villa's mustache :lol:?

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:44 pm
by DreamT
miditek wrote:
ggonza43 wrote:Why you say that? Does Tolkki need a deeper shave :lol:?
No- not at all. Rosie needs to shave more often- otherwise Donald Trump may follow through on his threat and steal her girlfriend! Tolkki needs to actually grow a beard, and a Fu Manchu mustache! :lol:
DreamT wrote:Well...photoshopping pictures of Rosie O'Donnell is really a sign of having way too much free time, whick could be a sign of that you indeed are a loser.
I can't take credit for something I didn't actually create- that would be plagiarism. The O'Donnell photo is a semi well-known gag that has shown up on more than a few Facebook pages.

I think Strato are a great band, and actually buy their albums, and also think the new relase is their best work in years. The last time I checked, Tolkki was not only no longer with them, but pulled a Captain Ahab and did his damndest to destroy it while he was at the helm. ;)
Ok, so I missed the fact that you didn't create the picture. Sorry about that. But that wasn't my main point. Even if you're not directly bashing the band, you're doing it indirect, since this forum is a information channel for both new and old Strato-fans.

I think it's better to keep good manners and to discuss things in a somewhat mature way than to continously slam a (possible) idiot that almost killed the band, and isn't even present in the band anymore!? Timo's behaviour did hurt the bands image, and so is this.

Of course the band's history shouldn't been ignored. But why take it down to this level?

I bet 99,99 % want to have normal discussions about their favourite band.

Ashame on you ;-)

Re: Timo Tolkki

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 9:23 pm
by AAAAAAAAAA
Isn't the message of Stratovarius to "Find Your Own Voice?" We should celebrate that by saying whatever we want, whenever we want, even if it bothers DreamT, Icetruck, or any of the other forum fascists.

If Jens thinks the discussion is harmful to the band's image, he can deal with it by closing the thread, moving it to the flames section, or warning the offender with a PM. I think he's made it pretty clear he doesn't care. So why do YOU care?! :roll: