Strato of Fire!! new band coming!! hahahah, is a crazy idea

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Vote your perfect band of Strato of fire!!

Drummer: Tuomo Lassila
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Drummer; Alex Holzwarth
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bassist: Jari Kainulainen
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bassist: Patrice Guers
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Keyboardist: Antti Ikonen
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Keyboardist: Alex staropoli
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Guitarrist: Timo Tolkki
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Guitarrist: Roberto De Micheli
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vocalist: If you find a vocalist that can face Stratovarius and Rhapsody of Fire torgether, tell me that I make him saint :lol:
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Post by Motha-faka » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:46 pm

Liberty wrote:http://www.businessknowhow.com/marketing/24waysto.htm
Maybe you can try number 13.

I don't think here is a good place, here is only a fan forum. I don't see much fan participation or anybody commenting on your work apart from me.
yes, i will work on it :D

but is time and dedication, by now i'm mastering Queen, this is a possible door why the people listen queen as never do it before

but as I told you before, I'm fighting with giant Monsters like FINVOXX, AND TRULLY IS A DEATH FIGHT THIS

If you have friends into the music market, you will know it very good
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Post by Liberty » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:49 pm

no, i don't know anybody in the music market. All i know is when i came on this forum you were complaining about the post-producer a lot.

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Post by Motha-faka » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:53 pm

Liberty wrote:no, i don't know anybody in the music market. All i know is when i came on this forum you were complaining about the post-producer a lot.
but is not normal that sonata not make happy to the people after 20 years of career....

they only make happy to fans with live shows

but well, maybe need more time, i dont know what say :?
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Post by Liberty » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:03 pm

are you refering to this thread on the forum ?: http://forum.stratovarius.com/viewtopic.php?t=11860

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Post by Motha-faka » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:18 pm

i'm refering in all, in general, this last time, the bands not make happy to the fans with the album, they are obligated to do shows why can be a disaster if only create albums and not live shows.

this is the timo tolkki situation, after symfonia, he stop with live shows, only do album and he go horrible compared with his old times

if stratovarius stop to play in live, stratovarius die, do you think that this can be possible for a band that have 30 years of history?

we are not talking of a new band or artist, we are talking of 80's bands
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Post by Liberty » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:32 pm

No, an old band never dies, they stay in people's memory. Look at this Scorpions concert video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_AIJF2h2mw You will see how many artist have been inspired by them.

Do you think if Lady Gaga or Madonna wouldn't do live shows she would still sell her albums ?

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Post by Motha-faka » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:46 pm

Liberty wrote:No, an old band never dies, they stay in people's memory. Look at this Scorpions concert video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_AIJF2h2mw You will see how many artist have been inspired by them.

Do you think if Lady Gaga or Madonna wouldn't do live shows she would still sell her albums ?
is differet. the mind of population change, and as i told you before, united states is a sick machine of propaganda


also, lady gaga and madonna is FOLLOWED BY THE GAY COMMUNITY, AND THE GAYS IS A LONG COMMUNITY THIS LAST TIME

to the gay community, lady gagas vs stratovarius, win lady gaga

the gay not have brain mostly, I can share tons of video of gay people, sometime they are sick, and i'm not homophobe, only I see him no brain

but the hope of powermetal fall in nordic lands, japan, europe and most part of united states, and with a good plan and good sound, can beat the pop music

a lot people in united states are sick of these pop music, idiotic and empty, my followers mostly are from united states
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Post by Liberty » Tue Oct 18, 2016 4:54 pm

Well, some metal artists admitted to being gay, i don't know if it boosted their sales...

A good plan, like you say, could be more promotion. I don't know how it works. Does the band need to have a better promoter to play in bigger places ?

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Post by Motha-faka » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:00 pm

Liberty wrote:Well, some metal artists admitted to being gay, i don't know if it boosted their sales...

A good plan, like you say, could be more promotion. I don't know how it works. Does the band need to have a better promoter to play in bigger places ?
in the first place , the metal need a better sound.

whitout a better sound, the metal will go down

about metal gays, yes, not all gays are idiots, not all the person are the same

about nordic metal, his change is break the american sound, why the reputation of american engineer is more high that european sound, but in the same way, they are insufficient too

the only engineer that fuckout americans was the personal sound of Pink Floyd

but the powermetal is not Pink Floyd, is more hard to mix and master Powermetal that pink floyd only why is 35 times more powerful

is question of focus the situation, and after that the metal have a killer sound, the second steep is the same insane propaganda that americans do, this can be solved, doing a deal with a marketing united states company directly
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Post by Liberty » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:19 pm

we are getting off topic in your own thread. Let's continue here: http://forum.stratovarius.com/viewtopic ... 492#570492

On topic again: What do you think of Mr. Tolkki's choice of singers for his Avalon band ? Michael Kiske (UNISONIC) Rob Rock (IMPELLITTERI), Russell Allen (SYMPHONY X)Tony Kakko (SONATA ARCTICA)

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Post by Motha-faka » Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:10 pm

Michael Kiske: is a great singer, extra high, high vocals voice, fly and easy melody, but i dislike his "cher slyle" if you his vibrato and ended line of words is like "cher" but in male and singing metal

but for that you can't kick him, is a great singer


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Rob Rock (Impellitteri)

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about he is good singer too. I dont know into the powermetal, but into hard rock or this is heavy metal, is a great singer, very 80's style, he looks that he loves the old guard of the metal

can have the line of klauss maine.

Into the powermetal, he can face it the song just he sing in this one that will not have problems, if he tryied change and force him more heavy can be a disaster

Russell Allen (SYMPHONY X)

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he is a great vocalist too, he have the bloodline of tony kakko but more soft, "SPECIALIST FOR POWERBALLADS"

Tony Kakko (SONATA ARCTICA)

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he is a Great vocalist, sometime his turned into the perfection in the studio, is clean when he want and one dirty vocalist when he want, he have a lot sense of esthetic line of vocals really, but when he tryied to be extra heavy, his color voice not help him, is easy distortion vocalist, and he is a complicated guy to post production why he have a lot 1k to 3k color voice.

His saturation can be high when he tryied play extra heavy

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example and we are listen a fake HD, In HD his voice is extra midd range of freuencies
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Post by Liberty » Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:34 pm

which ones would you choose ?

Michael Kiske has the voice that impressed me the most. Could it be him singing in the other Avalon song ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtK3NKwCRI I have the feeling that there's 2 of the guys singing in that song.

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Post by Motha-faka » Wed Oct 19, 2016 12:05 am

Liberty wrote:which ones would you choose ?

Michael Kiske has the voice that impressed me the most. Could it be him singing in the other Avalon song ?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBtK3NKwCRI I have the feeling that there's 2 of the guys singing in that song.
If i was tolkki, but more handsome why i'm italian? :lol: is joke :shock:

well, if i need choice males and females vocalist as these song?

males

1- Fabio Lione
2- kotipelto but he have a bad relationship? I dunno if not kotipelto, michael Kiske
3- Tony Kakko

females

1 - tarja turumen
2 - nightwish vocalist and i dont have idea her name
3 - anette orlson or whatever was her name

hahah special to make jump the nightwish fans in benefice to tolkki :lol:

the guy that work in these post production need be god like me and that is IMPOSSIBLE :lol: :D IS JOKE :lol:
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Post by Liberty » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:01 am

Nightwish, you mean her ?:

Nightwish - Ever Dream live at Download Festival(2016)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5l9JdpGL-g

Look at the end, there's so many people. Why doen't the Stratovarius band do the Download festival too ?

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Liberty wrote:Nightwish, you mean her ?:

Nightwish - Ever Dream live at Download Festival(2016)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5l9JdpGL-g

Look at the end, there's so many people. Why doen't the Stratovarius band do the Download festival too ?
I dunno, stratovarius is a high level band.

I think that the problem maybe is make a deal with the festival organizer?

why forgoting his studio albums, stratovarius have dvd live too, and is not bad.

really i dunno

but we need understand that Nightwish is much more simple that This stratovarius

Nightwish is mega easy to mix and master, i'm not joking

I can tell you that "Brighton Rock" is a nightmare. Queen song

1: have hi hat and cymbals all in 1
2: have 2 bases
3: have 12 brian may guitars
4: choir and 2 vocals - and vocals mixed with guitars
5: 2 kicks
6: i snare

and all bad recorded, vocals and guitars in 1 track

I need cut eq all the time via buss and I kill all the buses :lol:

maybe is Album inpact, if the organizers not see the stratovarius dvd or live shows, but really i'm not sure :)
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Post by Liberty » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:04 pm

About shows, i was thinking, that if the Avalon albums would not turn into shows or metal operas and since it is from a end of the world story Mr. Tolkki wrote, why wouldn't he turn it into a musicial movie, something like they did with Les misérables 2012 movie. Are his Avalon stories published somewhere ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timo_Tolkki

''The album, released on 17 May 2013, follows a story set in a post-apocalyptic future. In 2055, Earth has been almost destroyed by natural catastrophes, and a small group of survivors decide to set off a journey to find a sacred place known as The Land of New Hope''

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Post by Motha-faka » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:33 pm

I think that both Ávalon albums can got salvación what is not a bad álbum in his base, only its a bad producción or post producción, the Ávalon tolkki can be save if the álbum are re edited correctly.

Not was problema of the música there
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Post by Liberty » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:26 pm

ok, if the sound was fixed and money would be no object. If they turned the Avalon stories into films, would you go and see them ?

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Post by Motha-faka » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:51 pm

Liberty wrote:ok, if the sound was fixed and money would be no object. If they turned the Avalon stories into films, would you go and see them ?

maybe yes, i dont know, why I dont watch movies really

the only movie that i see and i see tons of times was Pink Floyd The Wall

but this history in a movie need be very good think it

is the same if i put into a movie my opera

well. My opera is more insane why truly is the Universe history and i need to end, since the big eexplosion to 2016

this stuff can cost millons of euros and tolkki need share the productions with international sponsors and movie production, this is more insane that make albums

i dont know if you undestand what i mean
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Post by Liberty » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:58 pm

Yes i understand, that's why i said: if money was no object, it means: It does not matter how much something costs.

Well done movies could maybe bring more mainstream music fans to that kind of music ?

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Post by Motha-faka » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:09 pm

Liberty wrote:Yes i understand, that's why i said: if money was no object, it means: It does not matter how much something costs.

Well done movies could maybe bring more mainstream music fans to that kind of music. Can movies have an impact on music ?
the only stuff that you can make is build an 3d movie in realistic engine just like a video game

but the problem with avalon is that start wrong

the same with symfonia and Revolution Renaissense had a bit more life why was extra simple to engineers

one time fixed 2 both avalon albums and that sound extra marvellous, why avalon is not a little proyect i bet, you can pay a 3d movie marker into the realism to make the albums in realism engine

like a video game, see this photo, looks like me in real life but in video game

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this can be more cheap that pay to hollywwod :lol:
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Post by Motha-faka » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:15 pm

I think that yes , lords of rings had a lot fans too
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Post by Liberty » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:27 pm

something like that, but he might have to write a prequel album to show how the earth was destructed.

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Liberty wrote:something like that, but he might have to write a prequel album to show how the earth was destructed.
haa but this you need walk with the company that will build the movie, they can do whatever stuff with the pc

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Post by Liberty » Wed Oct 19, 2016 5:53 pm

If they did, he could write whatever metal songs for other bands to put some action into it.

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Liberty wrote:If they did, he could write whatever metal songs for other bands to put some action into it.



yes, they can do whatever stuff
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Post by Liberty » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:03 pm

if you want to add some female singers in there, i found a good choice of Metal female singers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE2wtuFLWyM
Maybe the name of the lady you were looking for is in there.

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Post by Motha-faka » Thu Oct 20, 2016 8:54 pm

hahah this is more for sir tolkki , not me, i cant pay these good singers .... yet :P
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Post by Liberty » Mon Oct 31, 2016 2:26 am

Motha-faka wrote:hahah this is more for sir tolkki , not me, i cant pay these good singers .... yet :P
You forgot that is said: money is no object...

More great voices in here:

FORCES UNITED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKinC4Qzc-4

Anyone you like ?

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Post by Motha-faka » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:16 am

but, you need to know that i'm new into the metal. im strat in 2012, really i dont have idea about metal bands, only a few that take my attention only :lol:


sadly i'm bad singing metal and my accent is a penis in english, with the time i will got a solution and i will do some public songs that will sound all classical ones with kotipelto/kiske falsetto :lol: :lol:

about this guys....

maybe Mark Boals, Goran Edman (Special for some tolkki's 80s style), Petr Elfimov can work too,

but all the singers have close the same style and voice color :?
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