Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by cl4udiolari » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:01 am

Well, i'll start with a cover, then maybe we can arrange an original one ok?

What i want to know it is your vote.

now we are on top with Black Diamond and if this will not change till tomorrow i think i will go for this one =)


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DRUMS
Logic Studio and some samples i'll use =P
dupinguez ( Programming )
cl4udiolari ( programming )


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Neonvomit
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GUITAR
Warrencurrymetal

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Rikkertje
Dopinguez
cl4udiolari

VOCAL
Hiro23
Dopinguez
warrencurrymetal

MIXING & MASTERING (at Finnvox Studios =P )
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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by hiro23 » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:44 pm

Sounds good to me, looks like we have an avantasia type setup here with multiple people helping out.
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Post by NeonVomit » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:37 pm

Cool. Black diamond would work as a test bed I guess, then we could branch out to other songs!
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Post by dupinguez » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:42 pm

That's sounds good for me.

In terms of drum programming, if we go for a cover with no rearrangments, you can just take the MIDI drums from a guitar pro file or whatever and then work with it. No needs for programming it again. But that's not true if we want to change the song a little bit.

The next thing we'll have to do is to decide the order to record the tracks. I would go for

-Drums
-Guitars
-Bass
-Keyboards
-Voice

What's your opinion on it?
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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by cl4udiolari » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:05 am

dupinguez wrote:
The next thing we'll have to do is to decide the order to record the tracks. I would go for

-Drums
-Guitars
-Bass
-Keyboards
-Voice

What's your opinion on it?
Well in my opinion i'll work like this:

DRUMS
BASS
GUITAR
KEYBOARD
VOCAL
SOLOS

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by cl4udiolari » Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:57 pm

ok, well go for Black Diamond

I will start to make drums! and update you in a while =)

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Post by rikkertje » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:01 pm

Ok! I will do keyboards! When I'm finished I'll let you know!

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Post by warrencurrymetal » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:33 pm

Do we already have drums? I have them mapped out if anyone wants just a drum track. (Not real drums, but they sound good if anyone is interested.) I also have the keyboards programmed, but real keyboards would be better.

I also have some of the guitars recorded for part of it. Let me know if you would like to hear, and give me an adress to send the link. BTW, this is exciting! for order of recording, If we start from scratch, should start with drums. Then we can do bass, guitars, keys, backing vocals, then lead vocals. THen we mix it.

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Post by warrencurrymetal » Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:34 pm

BTW, my email is warrencurrymetal@gmail.com You can contact me there, and I can send mp3.

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Post by Malteada » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:05 pm

hey, i would like to participate in this!.. as guitar player =)
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Post by cl4udiolari » Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:49 pm

ok guys!!! =) im happy there is so manyone interested to join!!

In order to let the things go well i need to be tidy =P and so i suggest to build a work flow ok?

1) We will work on instruments. Once 1 is complted then we will pass to the other one.

For first we'll start with DRUMS, so anyone who has drums just pm me and i'll get the file and check if it is ok. if not i'll do it!

Then bass...then guitar....then.....

2) i will accept .wav, .aiff, .mp3 with more 128.

3) once each part, played and by different musician in here, is recorded i will post in this thread the mixed versione, and we will choose the best. easy and loyal..isn't it?! =)

let's woooork!!!

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by dupinguez » Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:43 pm

Just a question : in which tone do we record the song? The original one is on D flat, but since TK's voice is quite high, maybe we should lower it a little bit, so that everyone can sing on it. Maybe C or B? Or we can also keep it on the original tone and try our best and break our vocal chords...

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by rikkertje » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:11 pm

I think we can do it in the original tone (D flat) because the vocal lines aren't EXTREMELY high. Only in the end where TK sings: 'I won't forgeee--eee--eet!!!'

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by warrencurrymetal » Fri May 01, 2009 1:51 am

I can sing any Kotipelto line, so don't worry about it. Keep it regular tuning.

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Post by Ragehead91 » Fri May 01, 2009 2:02 am

warrencurrymetal wrote:I can sing any Kotipelto line, so don't worry about it. Keep it regular tuning.
You can, but can Hiro23 and Dopinguez too?

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Post by warrencurrymetal » Fri May 01, 2009 2:25 am

So how exactly are we doing the vocals?

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Post by fernandotcl » Fri May 01, 2009 5:20 am

The vocals go like this:

TK: E Gb Ab A

Backing choir: Ab A B Db

I - won't - for - geeet

This gives an impression that TK sings the chorus at a much higher pitch.

Btw, Black Diamond without this "backing choir" (is there a better name for this?) would sound kind of incomplete, wouldn't it?

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by warrencurrymetal » Fri May 01, 2009 5:50 am

it definitely needs the backing choir. I can't wait to hear the instrumentation! :)

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by NightScreamer » Fri May 01, 2009 6:10 am

Pick or no pick? And I'm just using a tab I found on ultimate-guitar if thats ok?

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Post by NightScreamer » Fri May 01, 2009 6:14 am

sweet jesus thats extremely easy

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Post by hiro23 » Fri May 01, 2009 7:12 am

I don't have a high voice, I'm more of a Scott stapp or Eddie Vedder type of voice, I'd have to sing it low
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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by icecab21 » Fri May 01, 2009 7:29 am

They could sing same key different octive.

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by cl4udiolari » Fri May 01, 2009 10:16 am

Currently making drums friends =P

We'll of course add the backing which are extremely important...is like, ok i'll do guitars but i don't play all the A chords =P

keep waiting!!!! i work hard!!

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by dupinguez » Fri May 01, 2009 10:57 am

For the vocals, C or B would be better for me but if it's D flat, I can still do some parts, such as first verse.

In the second verse, there is a quite high

"escape from this temptation".

Chorus is a little bit high on just the higher note... too bad I don't have this extra one.
Singing on a lower octave would not be a good idea, since it would be by far less powerful. :P
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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by rikkertje » Fri May 01, 2009 6:42 pm

hiro23 wrote:I don't have a high voice, I'm more of a Scott stapp or Eddie Vedder type of voice, I'd have to sing it low
Maybe we could do 'Keep The Flame' after we've finished 'Black Diamond'. The first part of that song isn't high at all. :)

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Post by fernandotcl » Fri May 01, 2009 7:34 pm

By the way, the scores for all songs in Visions was released in Japan. You can find it on the internet (I downloaded it from Rapidshare if I recall correctly). Or you could try to buy it (not sure they still sell the song book).

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by NightScreamer » Fri May 01, 2009 11:48 pm

NightScreamer wrote:Pick or no pick? And I'm just using a tab I found on ultimate-guitar if thats ok?

fernandotcl: Is there a bass tab in it? because I'm not sure if this one is right...

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Post by DayDreamer » Sat May 02, 2009 12:03 am

If you guys need some additional guitar stuff,just contact me! I would love to participate!

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Post by fernandotcl » Sat May 02, 2009 1:04 am

NightScreamer wrote:
NightScreamer wrote:Pick or no pick? And I'm just using a tab I found on ultimate-guitar if thats ok?
fernandotcl: Is there a bass tab in it? because I'm not sure if this one is right...
There are bass lines, but it's traditional music notation, no tabs.

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Re: Stratovarius Cover recording - for all musicians who can rec

Post by NightScreamer » Sat May 02, 2009 3:30 am

Oh, I can't read those...

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