the past and now seems a great copilation...i think that worth wait to get this album...browneyedgirl wrote: I have it, and yes, its rare--AND, pretty damn expensive!
This wonderful compilation set me back $36.00!!! But, it was worth it.It is a Japanese import, hence the rarity&expense. I ordered my copy from MetalDisc.com&it took 5 weeks to arrive. So did CVAT, which was also $36.00!
I'd like to get,"The Past&Now" but, I don't wanna wait that long for another album again!
which album is the best???
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Re: which album is the best???
OK, here we go: Twilight Time, Fourth Dimension, Episode, Visions, Destiny... Elemets pt All....
Who can realy deside, I can't deside which song is the best, i have about 50 songs on the first place, maybe more!
Who can realy deside, I can't deside which song is the best, i have about 50 songs on the first place, maybe more!
Re: which album is the best???
My God! Only NOT Elements! It was exacly that time when Tolkki became totally crazy after the known grievous incident. Both Elements are soaking-wet with endless depression, not to mention "Hymn to Life"! I'd better call it "Hymn to Self-destruction"! Thank Goodness Tolkki's worst time seems is behind now.
Indeed, my favourites are Episode, Visions and Destiny. And maybe even Fright Night!
Indeed, my favourites are Episode, Visions and Destiny. And maybe even Fright Night!
Pal'ar Magata Elel'ma esaro Tisata afama!
May the Magic of Elel' fill away thy soul!
May the Magic of Elel' fill away thy soul!
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Re: which album is the best???
Ever heard an Opeth album?Efenstor wrote:Both Elements are soaking-wet with endless depression,
Delusions Of Grandeur
Re: which album is the best???
Visions and Episode!!

Re: which album is the best???
Bluha-a-a-a-r-r-r-rdh!!! I don't think it's a music at all. All that Burzum-Borknagar is killing me, even Satyricon, Bal-Sagoth and of that kind. I listen to metal for a long time already but still feel it's not my kind of music, not my philosophy. Strange that I, being a nordmann, do not find anything resembling black metal in northern forests. I've seen them more than once and not in a picture and they are truly NOT black and malicious! They're very very quite, rather gloomy and desert but never dark and depressing.Twilightsymphony wrote: Ever heard an Opeth album?
Pal'ar Magata Elel'ma esaro Tisata afama!
May the Magic of Elel' fill away thy soul!
May the Magic of Elel' fill away thy soul!
Re: which album is the best???
1) Visions and episode
2) Dreamspace
3) Fourth dimension
2) Dreamspace
3) Fourth dimension
Re: which album is the best???
My personal favorite are Elements Pt.1 and Visions and Episode...
Here I am lost and alone in the night...
Re: which album is the best???
Elements Pt.1-2 are great albums and great creations. If you want to listen happy music, you can buy DJBobo's new album.Efenstor wrote:My God! Only NOT Elements! It was exacly that time when Tolkki became totally crazy after the known grievous incident. Both Elements are soaking-wet with endless depression, not to mention "Hymn to Life"! I'd better call it "Hymn to Self-destruction"! Thank Goodness Tolkki's worst time seems is behind now.
Indeed, my favourites are Episode, Visions and Destiny. And maybe even Fright Night!
Timo Tolkki's words and thoughts are great on these albums as on the others. His music gives me power to live through the life, his words are my thoughts. So, my favourite band is Stratovarius, and I like all parts, all solos, all lyrics and all songs of Elements as I like Visions or Episode or Fourth Dimenson...
There is no mistake... The mistake is in YOU...
Here I am lost and alone in the night...
Re: which album is the best???
For me the best album is Destiny.
Ola pros fans de Portugal. Stratovarius os maiores.
"Let your spirit free, through window of your mind.
Unchain your soul from hate, all you need is faith."
Ola pros fans de Portugal. Stratovarius os maiores.
"Let your spirit free, through window of your mind.
Unchain your soul from hate, all you need is faith."
Re: which album is the best???
elements rulesLACUSKA wrote:Elements Pt.1-2 are great albums and great creations. If you want to listen happy music, you can buy DJBobo's new album.Efenstor wrote:My God! Only NOT Elements! It was exacly that time when Tolkki became totally crazy after the known grievous incident. Both Elements are soaking-wet with endless depression, not to mention "Hymn to Life"! I'd better call it "Hymn to Self-destruction"! Thank Goodness Tolkki's worst time seems is behind now.
Indeed, my favourites are Episode, Visions and Destiny. And maybe even Fright Night!
Timo Tolkki's words and thoughts are great on these albums as on the others. His music gives me power to live through the life, his words are my thoughts. So, my favourite band is Stratovarius, and I like all parts, all solos, all lyrics and all songs of Elements as I like Visions or Episode or Fourth Dimenson...
There is no mistake... The mistake is in YOU...
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Re: which album is the best???
Wow, incredibly stupid answer...LACUSKA wrote:Elements Pt.1-2 are great albums and great creations. If you want to listen happy music, you can buy DJBobo's new album.Efenstor wrote:My God! Only NOT Elements! It was exacly that time when Tolkki became totally crazy after the known grievous incident. Both Elements are soaking-wet with endless depression, not to mention "Hymn to Life"! I'd better call it "Hymn to Self-destruction"! Thank Goodness Tolkki's worst time seems is behind now.
Indeed, my favourites are Episode, Visions and Destiny. And maybe even Fright Night!
Timo Tolkki's words and thoughts are great on these albums as on the others. His music gives me power to live through the life, his words are my thoughts. So, my favourite band is Stratovarius, and I like all parts, all solos, all lyrics and all songs of Elements as I like Visions or Episode or Fourth Dimenson...
There is no mistake... The mistake is in YOU...
I didnt like Elements (2) either... but still there are opinions
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Re: which album is the best???
Wow, incredibly stupid answer...
I didnt like Elements (2) either... but still there are opinions
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I don't understand you...
Elements is a mature, finished, grave album with good songs, harmonized and orchestrated, on a little bit progressive line. It's called: advanced.
And it's forceful.
I like it when the song is not - verse/refren/verse/refren/solo/refren/refren.
So, Elements is more difficult than this, I think. And the song itself: Elements is a perfect song with perfect choir. It's my opinion.
I like the other albums, just I don't understand: why do you say hurtful words about Elements none the less it is a real and good album?
I didnt like Elements (2) either... but still there are opinions
I don't understand you...
Elements is a mature, finished, grave album with good songs, harmonized and orchestrated, on a little bit progressive line. It's called: advanced.
And it's forceful.
I like it when the song is not - verse/refren/verse/refren/solo/refren/refren.
So, Elements is more difficult than this, I think. And the song itself: Elements is a perfect song with perfect choir. It's my opinion.
I like the other albums, just I don't understand: why do you say hurtful words about Elements none the less it is a real and good album?
Here I am lost and alone in the night...
Re: which album is the best???
And among others I think my answer was not incredibly stupid, but incredibly funny (if you thought this: "If you want to listen happy music, you can buy DJBobo's new album. ")Twilightsymphony wrote:Wow, incredibly stupid answer...LACUSKA wrote:Elements Pt.1-2 are great albums and great creations. If you want to listen happy music, you can buy DJBobo's new album.Efenstor wrote:My God! Only NOT Elements! It was exacly that time when Tolkki became totally crazy after the known grievous incident. Both Elements are soaking-wet with endless depression, not to mention "Hymn to Life"! I'd better call it "Hymn to Self-destruction"! Thank Goodness Tolkki's worst time seems is behind now.
Indeed, my favourites are Episode, Visions and Destiny. And maybe even Fright Night!
Timo Tolkki's words and thoughts are great on these albums as on the others. His music gives me power to live through the life, his words are my thoughts. So, my favourite band is Stratovarius, and I like all parts, all solos, all lyrics and all songs of Elements as I like Visions or Episode or Fourth Dimenson...
There is no mistake... The mistake is in YOU...
I didnt like Elements (2) either... but still there are opinions
Here I am lost and alone in the night...
Re: which album is the best???
the albuns BEFORE kotipelto join the band are good...the albuns AFTER kotipelto join the band are masterpieces 
Are you experienced?
Re: which album is the best???
It seems that you have difficulty grasping the term "opinion", even though you used it in your own post..LACUSKA wrote:I like the other albums, just I don't understand: why do you say hurtful words about Elements none the less it is a real and good album?
Here's the deal: Everyone sees the world in a unique way.
Just because you see Elements (1 or 2) as - in all aspects - a really splendid/horrible album, it doesn't mean that someone else can't like/dislike it, or say stuff about it that doesn't match your own opinion.
The things you deem "hurtful" might just be the other guy's opinions. No offense meant, just a friendly point.
So.. chill.
"The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself."
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Re: which album is the best???
LACUSKA wrote:And among others I think my answer was not incredibly stupid, but incredibly funny (if you thought this: "If you want to listen happy music, you can buy DJBobo's new album. ")Twilightsymphony wrote:Wow, incredibly stupid answer...LACUSKA wrote:Elements Pt.1-2 are great albums and great creations. If you want to listen happy music, you can buy DJBobo's new album.Efenstor wrote:My God! Only NOT Elements! It was exacly that time when Tolkki became totally crazy after the known grievous incident. Both Elements are soaking-wet with endless depression, not to mention "Hymn to Life"! I'd better call it "Hymn to Self-destruction"! Thank Goodness Tolkki's worst time seems is behind now.
Indeed, my favourites are Episode, Visions and Destiny. And maybe even Fright Night!
Timo Tolkki's words and thoughts are great on these albums as on the others. His music gives me power to live through the life, his words are my thoughts. So, my favourite band is Stratovarius, and I like all parts, all solos, all lyrics and all songs of Elements as I like Visions or Episode or Fourth Dimenson...
There is no mistake... The mistake is in YOU...
I didnt like Elements (2) either... but still there are opinions
Nothing against DJBobo. He rocks pretty much!






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Re: which album is the best???
1. Dreamspace
2. Visions
3. Twilight Time and Fourth Dimension
2. Visions
3. Twilight Time and Fourth Dimension
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Re: which album is the best???
I really dont know...I like episode alot..epic tunes like Babylon and Forever....and Season of change. Then again Visions is great too. I also like Elements pt1
Re: which album is the best???
Hello!!!
I meen (again) that all true Strato-fan has Visions as one of their favorite.
But again all of the strato allbum is great, so it is not easy to choose
I meen (again) that all true Strato-fan has Visions as one of their favorite.
But again all of the strato allbum is great, so it is not easy to choose
Re: which album is the best???
I know yhey are all excelent albuns but my favorite is EPISODE. That is "the album" in my opinion. MAybe because it was the first i listened to. But certantly because it have my favorite Stratovarius songs.
Infinite is the next one.
(sorry if my English is bad)
Infinite is the next one.
(sorry if my English is bad)
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Fourth Dimension
Fourth Dimension
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Best album!!!
VISIONS IS THE BEST

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Re: which album is the best???
In my opinion, Destiny isvery best album, couse it's the most emotive of all. The Elements albums, are very good, the sound of the band it's unique. The lyrics are good (The lyrics of E2, One feels the pain of Timo). In spite of this, mybe the melodies are mediocre, but not too much
Don't give in to the hopelesness
Keep the innocence in your heart
And the end before your start
Be the warrior of the light
Don't give up without a fight
Keep the innocence in your heart
And the end before your start
Be the warrior of the light
Don't give up without a fight
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Re: which album is the best???
So, lets ansewer:
1st - VISIONS!!!!!!!!
2nd - Episode!
1st - VISIONS!!!!!!!!
2nd - Episode!
!!!!STRATOVARIUS!!!!
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the best
of course.. it's DESTINY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NO VIVAS PARA SER, POR TEMOR, LA PRESA DE OTRO SUEÑO, SE VIVE UNA VEZ PARA SER ETERNAMENTE LIBRE...
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Re: which album is the best???
1. Visions, of course and it has it´s own atmosphere which any others don´t have. Also a bunch of very good songs like (The) Kiss of Judas, The Abyss of Your Eyes and Visions (Southern Cross)
2. Episode, nearly very songs are great and it is every time worth listening :music:, there is only one weak song and it´s Will the Sun Rise.
3. Infinite, my first Strato-album, very happy songs and there are some of my eternal favourites Infinity, A Million Lightyears Away and Phoenix.
2. Episode, nearly very songs are great and it is every time worth listening :music:, there is only one weak song and it´s Will the Sun Rise.
3. Infinite, my first Strato-album, very happy songs and there are some of my eternal favourites Infinity, A Million Lightyears Away and Phoenix.
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Re: which album is the best???
Episode.
Seriously. There's classics like Father Time, Will The Sun Rise, Eternity, and Forever. There's Season Of Change, one of the greatest songs ever written, both musically and lyrically. There's brilliant fast songs in Speed Of Light and Stratosphere. Even the less celebrated songs from that album, like Tomorrow, Night Time Eclipse, and When The Night Meets The Day, are absolutely brilliant.
Visions is a great album, and it does have Black Diamond and some other great songs, but Episode beats it, in my opinion.
But I'll point out that what I consider to be Strato's best song ever, Phoenix, isn't on either album.
Seriously. There's classics like Father Time, Will The Sun Rise, Eternity, and Forever. There's Season Of Change, one of the greatest songs ever written, both musically and lyrically. There's brilliant fast songs in Speed Of Light and Stratosphere. Even the less celebrated songs from that album, like Tomorrow, Night Time Eclipse, and When The Night Meets The Day, are absolutely brilliant.
Visions is a great album, and it does have Black Diamond and some other great songs, but Episode beats it, in my opinion.
But I'll point out that what I consider to be Strato's best song ever, Phoenix, isn't on either album.
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Re: which album is the best???
My favourite albums are:
1.: Episode
2.: Elements pt1
3.: Visions
My favourite songs are:
1.: Speed of Light
2.: Find Your Own Voice
3.: Visions
What do you think about it?

1.: Episode
2.: Elements pt1
3.: Visions
My favourite songs are:
1.: Speed of Light
2.: Find Your Own Voice
3.: Visions
What do you think about it?
