Did They Lie About the Name Origin?!?!?!?

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Did They Lie About the Name Origin?!?!?!?

Post by StratoHeart » Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:21 am

:shock:

Have the guys lied about the band's name origin? Because they told about the mix of the words Stratocaster (guitar) and Stradivarius (violin), but take a look at what I've found from a band called Kraftwerk:

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Kraftwerk

1 - Ruckzuck (In a Flash)
2 - Stratovarius
3 - Megaherz
4 - Von Himmel Hoch (From the High Skies)

Produced July / August 1970


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TOCCATA ELECTRONICA
(Re-Mix,Rare Tracks and Live at Bremen '71, Utrecht '81)


1. Computer World (robotron-mix)[/i]
2. Tour de France (Kevorkian 12"remix)
3. Techno Pop (1983 ver.)
4. Metropolis (Machine-version live Utrecht 1981)
5.The Model (catbonic-mix)
6. Neon Lights (Ton-up-mix)
7. Pocket Calculator (East-West-mix)
8. Zehn Kleine Negerlein
9. Radioactivity (Kevorkian 12"remix)
10. Die Roboter (Kling-Klang mix)
11. Les Mannequins (1978 extended French remix)
12. DENTAKU (1981 extended mix)
13. Tour de France (1983 Kling Klang version)
14. Stratovarius (live Bremen 1971)

Note : Track 14 : Live at Bremen '71

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LIVE IN KOELN
Live in Koeln 12.6.71


1. Stratovarius
2. Ruckzack (sic)
3. Vom Himmel Hoch

Do someone know this band? Strange, really... does the word "Stratovarius" really have a true meaning? :?: :?:

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Re: Did They Lie About the Name Origin?!?!?!?

Post by Elazul » Wed Oct 27, 2004 2:50 pm

I think I heared of Kraftwerk. It´s a german Band that makes a kind of electric music. It´s Techno-music or something.

But I don´t know why they have a song called Stratovarius.

Strange...

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Post by Equinox » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:05 pm

Never heard 'bout it......but why dont u try to find the year when this band apperard?
and then we'll see who copy who.
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Post by Electric Eye » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:10 pm

That's interesting, indeed. But I think they didn't rip it on purpose, and not try to hide it . Maybe it's pure coincidence. I wonder what Tolkki or others would say?

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Post by Beast_Pete » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:02 pm

Equinox wrote:Never heard 'bout it......but why dont u try to find the year when this band apperard?
and then we'll see who copy who.
He wrote it. 1970.

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Post by Beast_Pete » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:03 pm

StratoHeart wrote::shock:

Have the guys lied about the band's name origin? Because they told about the mix of the words Stratocaster (guitar) and Stradivarius (violin), but take a look at what I've found from a band called Kraftwerk:
It's Stradivari, not 'varius. varius is a little bit latinic.

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Post by tkbdadsgshim » Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:44 am

i don't think they want to copy them , maybe it's just a coincidence that's all , i don't think that tolkki wants to copy someone that's not him , i don't think so...
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Post by browneyedgirl » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:14 am

I read somewhere that the word "stratovarius" means,"above the heavens" in chinese......

For the Millionth time, Tolkki did NOT come up with the bands name--Strato existed a couple years or so before Tolkki came along---Tolkki did NOT found Stratovarius......even though he is the longest existing member.

Some people can't get that fact in their head! :D
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Post by bobo » Thu Oct 28, 2004 4:34 am

true
the band's name was Black Water, and then lassila came up with the name Stratovarius... he made a pretty good choice :lol:

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Post by browneyedgirl » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:37 am

bobo wrote:true
the band's name was Black Water, and then lassila came up with the name Stratovarius... he made a pretty good choice :lol:

Excellent choice---I think Stratovarius sounds better&is more "catchy" than Black Water.....also, there was a band already titled, Black Water, so the name was changed to avoid confusion, I guess.
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Post by StratoHeart » Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:32 pm

Beast_Pete wrote:
StratoHeart wrote::shock:

Have the guys lied about the band's name origin? Because they told about the mix of the words Stratocaster (guitar) and Stradivarius (violin), but take a look at what I've found from a band called Kraftwerk:
It's Stradivari, not 'varius. varius is a little bit latinic.
Stradivari is the name of the creator of the instrument (actually Signore Stradivari, italian), and the name of the violin was inspired in his name, then called Stradivarius or Stradivarium, and including the band members call it so (check the FAQ in the official page). But maybe it doesn't have the same name in all the world, of course, but I guess not. All the times I heard to talk about the instrument I heard one of that two names I wrote.

But obviously I can be wrong. ;)

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Post by Sir. Decadence » Thu Oct 28, 2004 2:39 pm

When Tolkki was last time in television here in Finland (it was Top 40 -program), he mentioned about that band and that song.
I don't think they take that name from Kraftwerk's song, because Tolkki said nothing about taking the new name for Black Water from that song.

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Post by iron_thunder » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:30 pm

Mmm, Kraftwerk. They rock. :o

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Post by Elazul » Thu Oct 28, 2004 7:55 pm

For all No-Germans here.
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Kraftwerk=Power-station

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Post by Natas » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:53 pm

Elazul wrote:For all No-Germans here.
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Kraftwerk=Power-station

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In Norwegian: Kraftverk.

If I remember right, kraftwerk was some kind of robotmusik or something. Weird shit.

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Post by Beast_Pete » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:51 pm

I asked some people (in Hungary), and they said, it was Stradivari. Dunno. We should ask Stradivari himself. :P

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Post by Fireblade » Thu Oct 28, 2004 10:00 pm

Natas wrote:
Elazul wrote:For all No-Germans here.
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Kraftwerk=Power-station

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In Norwegian: Kraftverk.

If I remember right, kraftwerk was some kind of robotmusik or something. Weird shit.
Weird brilliant shit. :D *feels old to remember them* :shock: :?

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Post by Ethereal » Sat Oct 30, 2004 2:52 pm

Stradivari is the name of the creator of the instrument (actually Signore Stradivari, italian)
Actually it was Antonio Stradivari :wink:
no problem... 'Signore' is just the Italian for 'Mr.' And we often omit the final 'e' and say 'Signor Something'.

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Post by MasterChu19155 » Sun Oct 31, 2004 12:43 pm

I heard about Kraftwerk and about that song, but I never listend to them.
But I seems to be some electronic stuff as somebody already said.

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Post by stratohawk » Sat Nov 06, 2004 7:46 pm

well, don't you think it is possible that they really created the name the way explaned and never heard of the Kraftwerk-song before? Could be, eh?

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