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Yeah, we are all different, some more sceptical, some a little less.Ikola wrote:Or you could just put out a few promo-mp3's on your webbsite and then let the fans manke their own opinion. maybe one minute each so ypu can get an opinion.
Here in Finland people rejoice and celebrate and almost sanctify an international celebration day if one proper band's album is found for under 10e ( 13$ I guess). That really does not happen. I always visit Airon Musiikki here and only one CD cost 10e, I bought it, that was really cheap. CD was Celesty's Reign Of Elements. It wasn't THAT good, probably not worth 10e, but I aint too disgruntled about it...
I've bought some albums that were crap, but the most I've been pretty satisified with. Buying 3cd's for 99sek (about 13$) is a pretty good way to discover some new music. Otherwise i don't think that 150sek s that much to pay fo a fresh album.
I think it is not illegal yet in Finland, and even if it was, it really does not matter to me. I know I'm more right than the law books. I know better. I really like to spend money on music but I cannot if I cant preview the albums first. I'd miss tons of good music, its terrible!
And no, I don't think that downloading an entire album illegaly just cause you want to listen to it is defendable in a court of law. By the 1 July downloading unauthorized materials are forbidden here in Sweden. I don't know how it works in other countries.
Facts right. CD sales are UP in the united states, not down. I believe this is the case in finland too. The only reason why sales COULD be down, is because people dont make stupid purchases any more. Record companies FEED off of peoples stupidity. If everyone makes a smart purchase, they lose sales. Of course. You think people should make wrong purchases? People should buy CD's they dont like?
The main thing that i react upon is that the ARTISTS are loosing money because of the downloading. Even though you may think it's a bad album the artist still put their souls in it. That you cannot deny and when the salesnumbers are too low the artist sooner or larter will be pushed off the market by some new popstars that can't write music and cannot even sing/play properly.
So Mr Lautman and you others, what do you want to hear in the future, Stratovarius or a copy of the hiphop artist 50cent?
I often buy CDs knowing nothing about it except the name (someone told me this band was good, I'll check it out) or just because the album cover looks nice. I don't pay those CDs 20€ too, rather 7-9€ but I'm very rarely disappointed, and it makes me discover some bends I wouldn't hawe even known about, so I wouldn't have downloaded them either.Latuman wrote:People should buy CD's they dont like?
I'd rather say that's because pop fans are so dumb they imagine downloaded mp3s are the same as the actual CD. I hope metalheads are smarterBeast_Pete wrote:It's bad for the pop musicians, because now everyone can listen to nonpopular music as well, and it might happen, that less people will buy pop CDs, and they will spend their money to nonpopular ones.
Sad, but true.Nightmare1z wrote:I disagree on the comment though that the majority of people who download buy CD's. I know hardly anyone that does buy CD's anymore *I'm 20 - in college*.
One guy has 8000+ MP3's and he doesn't care. Our college network is bogged down by people just staying on P2P software and downloading. Seems like all my friends just have Kazaa, WinMX, or something open downloading songs.
I was once in Best Buy looking for a CD. Two guys walked by talking to each other. One said "Don't buy that CD man, just download it online".
We're in the minority here that actually will buy CD's. In the age group I'm in, most people download - while very few actually end up buying lots of CD's.
I never said the majority of people who download buy CDs. I said the majority of people in *my* personal experience. I understand that a lot of the people who download who are in college are downloading because they can't afford to buy CDs. But that does not mean automatically that everyone is downloading and no one buys. And just because the majority of people in *your* experience are lifting MP3s and never buying doesn't automatically mean either that everyone else does the same as well. I believe there is a nice balance of both. There's always going to be someone in a group that wants something for nothing. That doesn't just apply to downloaders. But I can't stress it enough---just because there are some among the downloaders that want something for nothing, it does not mean that everyone is the same way. I rather enjoy going into a store and buying CDs. Even though I can download nearly any one I want, I still like buying them. But because of downloading, now I can go into a store with a better idea of what I want. What's so wrong with that?I disagree on the comment though that the majority of people who download buy CD's. I know hardly anyone that does buy CD's anymore *I'm 20 - in college*.
It happens sometimes, just try againXtracto wrote:i got an error when posting...
True.Stratowarius wrote:With some of the "friends"here Strato nees no enemies .
Pretty clear to me that there is NOTHING special in downloading an album. It has really NO value, than just the demonstrative value that lasts for only a while.NeonVomit wrote:True.Stratowarius wrote:With some of the "friends"here Strato nees no enemies .
I always buy the CDs. There's something special about owning the CD...
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