Jari Kainulainen

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:19 pm

It just seems Jari loves his wife very, very much.
And true love, which lasts over 5 minutes, in the world of musicians is kind of rare these days.

Black_Lion · Post by **Black_Lion** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 6:11 pm

cliff wrote:
Jabi wrote:I'm probably going to be hated for saying this, but anygays: even though I do believe Jari's leaving is true, who knows FOR SURE this isn't just another publicity stunt? Stratovarius have released a lot of bullshit as "official news" before.
Jabi, I think it would be a possibility, but I truly believe it's mostly due to Tolkki's mental problems (that were a part the official news you are refering to, i guess))
This is what I wrote in Kotipelto forum about it :
"I don't think it's a marketing thing.
I'd rather say it's a "star" syndrome. You know, when you are used to read your name everywhere, that people says "he is a great song writer, his band is great", and suddently no one speaks about you anymore, you want to feed the machine so you can see and hear your name again and again, and not think you are a "loser". For example some actors or musicians can fall into deep depression when their music doesn't sell anyone."
I think I might be right on that part.

People might hate me here, but I am pretty sure the Stratovarius soap opera of last year was just the beginning, and that Tolkki's health is doing bad again. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Oh how I hate when people has nothing to do and post stupid things... Jari left the band and It's a fucking sad fact. Dot. No marketing, no mental states, no star syndrom, no bullshit... he has his personal issues and that's it. It happens in 80% of the bands, someone leaves.

I'm pretty sad about Jari leaving the band... I'd hate seeing someone else playin' in his place. But anyway, I'll love Stratovarius forever.

I saw Lauri Porra live and he's good... but I still think he's too young for the band

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:27 pm

Is it gonna be Lauri Porra?

PROVE it!

Show me where it comes from Tolkki's mouth that it's Porra!

cliff · Post by **cliff** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:30 pm

Black_Lion wrote: Oh how I hate when people has nothing to do and post stupid things... Jari left the band and It's a fucking sad fact. Dot. No marketing, no mental states, no star syndrom, no bullshit... he has his personal issues and that's it. It happens in 80% of the bands, someone leaves.

My orginal post was actually not about Jari's leaving, but about Tolkki in the finnish tabloids.
I only copy-pasted it from a topic in Kotipelto's forum in which I talked about the tabloid thing, that might be the reason why people here mistunderstood what I said.

brought2ubyletterC · Post by **brought2ubyletterC** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:56 am

I didn't have time to go through all these posts, but have they found a new bassist yet?

Anyway, it sucks to hear that Jari is gone.

He was a major part of Strato for many years. But I'm sure the band will "Just Carry On" and find a suitable replacement. Whoever it is, I'm sure he/she will be the best *person* for Stratovarius.

Stratofanius · Post by **Stratofanius** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:37 am

Lauri Porra is offically next bassist of Stratovarius.
Finnish news (in finnish of course) here:
http://www.mesta.net/musa/uutiset/?aid=10275

cliff · Post by **cliff** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:32 pm

Bändin pitkäaikainen taajuusmaisteri Jari Kainulainen on jätti hiljattain yhtyeen, koska haluaa keskittyä perhe-elämään

that means something like "Jari decided to leave, cause he wants to focuse on his family.

I was right. thanks everyone.

Neron Ballerina · Post by **Neron Ballerina** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:56 pm

Jari will continue to play metal, just not with Stratovarius.

And what is this big deal about Porras age? He's a brilliant bassplayer, that's what counts!

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:04 pm

Neron Ballerina wrote:Jari will continue to play metal, just not with Stratovarius.

How do you know that.

Neron Ballerina · Post by **Neron Ballerina** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:08 pm

IceBreaker wrote:
Neron Ballerina wrote:Jari will continue to play metal, just not with Stratovarius.
How do you know that.

Ask him yourselfe! He's email adress is: jarikainulainen@kolumbus.fi

fifthtea_sausage · Post by **fifthtea_sausage** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:49 am

I sent him an email, and he said he's already created a new band.
This means that he left for personal reasons, not because he wanted to spend more time w/ his family.

stratoplayer · Post by **stratoplayer** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:26 am

fifthtea_sausage wrote:I sent him an email, and he said he's already created a new band.
This means that he left for personal reasons, not because he wanted to spend more time w/ his family.

could you post the e-mail?

STRATOPHILIUS · Post by **STRATOPHILIUS** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:00 am

Well I want to know whether or not he is planning to still do the tour or whether it will be someone else.....like is he already gone or on his way out

stratohawk · Post by **stratohawk** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:08 am

though it seems quite obvious, that jari is not in the band anymore - I won't believe anything until they set an official statement on strato.com. and there's still no statement...

NordicStorm · Post by **NordicStorm** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:49 am

fifthtea_sausage wrote:I sent him an email, and he said he's already created a new band.
This means that he left for personal reasons, not because he wanted to spend more time w/ his family.

Well, not necessarily. If he wrote "I've formed a new band called the Jari Kainulainen Project, for which I have imported five genetically engineered musicians trained at Julliard", I'd be inclined to agree. But if this new band of his is him hooking up with a couple of old friends, looking to play some metal but with a less hectic touring schedule than Stratovarius, leaving to spend more time with his family sounds perfectly reasonable...
But that's all speculation on my part. And on everyone else's part as well, as far as I can gather.

I'll say the same thing I said when Kotipelto and Jörg was out of the band: I'm not particularly concerned with who's in the band, I care about the music first and foremost.
If Stratovarius continue to produce music I like, I will continue to purchase their albums. If not, I won't.
Likewise, if I like what I hear from Jari's future musical output, I'll spend some of my cash on that. If not, I won't.

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 3:07 pm

stratohawk wrote:though it seems quite obvious, that jari is not in the band anymore - I won't believe anything until they set an official statement on strato.com. and there's still no statement...

Maybe all concerned are under some Legal Orders not to publicly discuss the situation.

It happens all the time in the Media World.
Just guessing

NeonVomit · Post by **NeonVomit** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:33 pm

Dammit. no, no NOOOOOOOOOOOO

Jari is my biggest hero as a bassplayer, he's irreplacable! He's the reason I play a 6string bass, and one of my biggest inspirations and influences on my style of playing

fuck fuck fuck

But I guess if he has personal reasons on leaving we have to accept them.

Goodbye Jari, I'll keep up with whatever you do in the future since you're the best fucking bassist in metal, period

I'm just very glad I had the chance to see you live in London in 2003.

Stratovarius will never be the same again without you

Mr. Chimney · Post by **Mr. Chimney** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:22 pm

Can't believe... Just can't.

Fare thee well, Jari.

And fare thee well Stratovarius. The Real Stratovarius, the Titan can't exist without TT, Timo, Jörg, Jens or Jari...

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:24 pm

NeonVomit wrote:Stratovarius will never be the same again without you

Yeah but a change is not a bad thing. Hopefully Lauri will bring some fresh blood and why not new musical ideas.

Stratofanius · Post by **Stratofanius** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:26 pm

MaFiaBoY wrote:
NeonVomit wrote:Stratovarius will never be the same again without you
Yeah but a change is not a bad thing. Hopefully Lauri will bring some fresh blood and why not new musical ideas.

Maybe he will write some new songs in future? I mean if Tolkki wants

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:34 pm

Mr. Chimney wrote:Can't believe... Just can't.

Fare thee well, Jari.

And fare thee well Stratovarius. The Real Stratovarius, the Titan can't exist without TT, Timo, Jörg, Jens or Jari...

Please cut the Drama

everything is going to be just fine. I think this band can survive anything. I think they have learned some lessons from the past. Hopefully, the future is good for them all.

Burning Reflection · Post by **Burning Reflection** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:23 pm

^ Quit spamming! You've been here a month and you've got 373 posts of pure fucking bullshit. I can't ever get any relevant information out of this forum because of all of you spammers here!!!

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:28 pm

Burning Reflection wrote:^ Quit spamming! You've been here a month and you've got 373 posts of pure fucking bullshit. I can't ever get any relevant information out of this forum because of all of you spammers here!!!

And you're certainly one of those too...

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:47 am

Burning Reflection wrote:^ Quit spamming! You've been here a month and you've got 373 posts of pure fucking bullshit. I can't ever get any relevant information out of this forum because of all of you spammers here!!!

:fuckoff: Eh, Mr. Perfect, or is it Mr. Ego?

You are so helpful yourself.

Stratofanius · Post by **Stratofanius** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:04 pm

Burning Reflection wrote:^ Quit spamming! You've been here a month and you've got 373 posts of pure fucking bullshit. I can't ever get any relevant information out of this forum because of all of you spammers here!!!

Shut up...

And your posts are so perfect?? If I remember right, you were the guy who gets VERY angry in some other topic about some little thing...

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:21 pm

Stratofanius wrote:
Burning Reflection wrote:^ Quit spamming! You've been here a month and you've got 373 posts of pure fucking bullshit. I can't ever get any relevant information out of this forum because of all of you spammers here!!!
Shut up... And your posts are so perfect?? If I remember right, you were the guy who gets VERY angry in some other topic about some little thing...

The guy gets angry about anything, anytime he posts, that's getting a bit boring...

NeonVomit · Post by **NeonVomit** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 12:56 pm

Bah im bored, this should provide some entertainment...

Chinaglia · Post by **Chinaglia** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 6:50 pm

Very Sad.

Good Luke to Him.

AMBR@BEC · Post by **AMBR@BEC** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 7:18 pm

Chinaglia wrote:Very Sad.

Good Luke to Him.

Who's Luke?

Sorry, I'm bored too and felt like spamming. Clearly I do not have enough posts.

Ikola · Post by **Ikola** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:33 pm

To jari:
Have a great time with your kids and your wife, you deserve it after all these wonderful years as bassplayer for Stratovarius!!

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