STRAGO PRESS RELEASE: Tarja out of Nightwish!

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Re: STRAGO PRESS RELEASE: Tarja out of Nightwish!

Post by Stealth » Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:23 pm

Well, then I guess you are easily misled by articles you read. I'm not saying Tuomas is lying, maybe he is completely right, but I have to insist, the bottom line is that none of us knows Tuomas in person and although he probably isn't crazy, we don't know how he thinks and how he acts. There are many politicians that don't seem to be crazy and deny the fact that they are corrupt, but that doesn't mean that they are telling the whole truth. Just remain open to interpretation and don't go with everything you read in a simple article.
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Re: STRAGO PRESS RELEASE: Tarja out of Nightwish!

Post by Shawna » Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:11 pm

I know that this is a bit off toppic
neonlightchild wrote: For example, i met the band 2 years ago, and everyone seemed to be cool and kind, but Tuomas was somehow bored or mad, so he went away and gave us (my borther and me) no chance to even ask for a picture (and that's quite okay, no problem with that). But Tarja was charming and also made some jokes, the same with Empu...
Now, the second time i met them (3 weeks ago) i found the same thing going on, i won backstage passes to Nightwish, and believe me, everyone at the band behaved so nice and kind, specially Juka and Tarja (again), but it was sad for me when i saw the same "diva" attitude comming from Tuomas and not from Tarja as himself calls Tarja being a "diva"
I can give you one other alternative than only "diva" acting. Tuomas has maybe had or still have depression. He have more than once said: "Without music I would have hanged myself long time ago."
Happy people don't think about suicide, right?

And after all I have myself had a very bad depression and many times when I have read Tuomas's comments I have noticed that he have been using same words that I used in my diary when I was sinking in my blackest depression.

And after all he have himself said that he is cynic and pessimist.

Or maybe I'm only blinded because of my own old depression and I'm seeing depressed people everywhere. :P

But don't take me wrong I think that if Tuomas have had depression it doesn't have anything to do with this situation. Because it wasn't only Tuomas who kicked Tarja out it was whole band and to be honest it wasn't any kind of suprise. Some how it is only good thing I have always been wondering why Tarja is singing in metal band when she have herself said that she don't like metal music and sometimes nearly hates it. Why that kind of person is singing in metal band if not because of money?

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Re: STRAGO PRESS RELEASE: Tarja out of Nightwish!

Post by NeonVomit » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:00 pm

Tuomas will soon appear on the Nightwish website covered in blood and babbling about Kaballah.
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Re: STRAGO PRESS RELEASE: Tarja out of Nightwish!

Post by stratoplayer » Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:17 pm

oh crap not again
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Re: STRAGO PRESS RELEASE: Tarja out of Nightwish!

Post by elvenrhapsody » Mon Oct 31, 2005 7:06 pm

http://www.betovazquezinfinity.com.ar/b ... letter.htm

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And i can't really blame her for not wanting to spend weeks and weeks on end with a bunch of nasty, messy guys on a tour bus with no way of escape. I spent ONE night on a tour bus with drunken, messy guys and i couldn't IMAGINE repeating that for a month or two, i'd go absolutely up a fucking wall. I'm sure there's stuff to blame on both sides. Maybe tuomas is a whiney prick sometimes, and tarja a bit of a "diva".... Maybe they're BOTH whiney prick divas behind closed doors. I'm thinking there was a lot of miscommunication and pent up frusteration. Each side can tell their own story, but i think.... that nobody out side the band can ever know the full story. I dont agree with the public letter tho... i think it will come back to bite the guys, especially Tuomas, in the ass. It was really hurtful that they handed her a letter, then... when she was obviously really hurting, post it for the public to read. Feeding her to the wolves... and rubbing salt in a freshly opened wound. THAT was a bit selfish and childish. A formal press release a week or two later would have been the way to go. Rather than "You're out of the fucking band. Here's a list of all the things we DONT like about you and what you've done. Have a nice life... OH! By the way, everyone else in the free world can also read all the stuff that we dont like about you as well. And one other thing, we don't like your husband, he sucks. LOVEEEE Tuomas, Emppu, Jukka, and Marco"
Not saying the guys are evil, I'm sure they're awesome and good people, and they have their reasons to do what they did. But it's kind of sad how it was handled. I just hope that they dont end up hating eachother and that nightwish and tarja will both be successful, even going separate ways.
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