tk and jorg

[tohellwithtolkki]

tolkki's fat ass had me and all my friends thinking jorg was a complete ass hole and kotipelto had a huge ego.

timo needs to shut the fuck up and take more medication

[NeonVomit]

Great post, would read again.

[stratoplayer]

I like how people throw around "fat ass" as if it gave their arguments a more logical reasoning..

[Paola]

We can't stay in a side in this fight 'cause isn't our fight. BTW: About TT's medication, it has a second effect and maybe this situation is consequence of it.

[browneyedgirl]

I like how people throw around "fat ass" as if it gave their arguments a more logical reasoning..

Yeah, Tolkki said that about Erin, called her a fat ass. Actually, she's a beautiful girl. So, you are right!

[miditek]

I like how people throw around "fat ass" as if it gave their arguments a more logical reasoning..

Sounds more than little like somebody's been watching a little too much "South Park" for their
own good.

[stratowerner]

tolkki's fat ass had me and all my friends thinking jorg was a complete ass hole and kotipelto had a huge ego.

timo needs to shut the fuck up and take more medication

talk normal or don't visit this forum again.Please make those comments privat with your friends..

[exe knight]

I like how people throw around "fat ass" as if it gave their arguments a more logical reasoning..

Yeah, Tolkki said that about Erin, called her a fat ass. Actually, she's a beautiful girl. So, you are right!

Being fat assed doesn't mean that can't be beautiful, and if I remember correct, women are meant to be "wide butted" so that they can carry the bew people insde them.

[Beast_Pete]

Sounds more than little like somebody's been watching a little too much "South Park" for their own good.

Ohh, everybody just loves the fatso Eric Cartman!

[browneyedgirl]

We can't stay in a side in this fight 'cause isn't our fight. BTW: About TT's medication, it has a second effect and maybe this situation is consequence of it.

He is not on medication now. He said himself that he was fine. This is not 2004, honey.
TT brought this shit all on himself. All of us make wrong decisions in our lives, its part of being human. But when it hurts&involves others, then it become a real mess to have to undo all the stuff. TT is his own worst enemy.

[miditek]

Sounds more than little like somebody's been watching a little too much "South Park" for their own good.

Ohh, everybody just loves the fatso Eric Cartman!

This entire ordeal reminds me very much of this:

Strato: The Early Years


http://youtube.com/watch?v=G54lXMNiJFw

[Rebel]

But of course, Timo is doing fine in his connection with a vaguely defined "Mother Gaia" religion, guiding him to inner peace, and directing him in a peaceful manner that is a much higher quality standard of morals than the damned christian church and their wars from about 1000 years ago.

Hypocrite.

[browneyedgirl]

But of course, Timo is doing fine in his connection with a vaguely defined "Mother Gaia" religion, guiding him to inner peace, and directing him in a peaceful manner that is a much higher quality standard of morals than the damned christian church and their wars from about 1000 years ago.

Hypocrite.

And don't forget the blow jobs he receives from his "Chosen Ones". Those would take a guy to a higher plane.

TT&Bill Clinton would get along great! :puke:

[Verdades Parias]

But of course, Timo is doing fine in his connection with a vaguely defined "Mother Gaia" religion, guiding him to inner peace, and directing him in a peaceful manner that is a much higher quality standard of morals than the damned christian church and their wars from about 1000 years ago.

Hypocrite.

And don't forget the blow jobs he receives from his "Chosen Ones". Those would take a guy to a higher plane.

spiritually

[miditek]

But of course, Timo is doing fine in his connection with a vaguely defined "Mother Gaia" religion,

It's called Pantheism...where creation, rather than the Creator, is worshipped.

[Beast_Pete]

(6400)

This entire ordeal reminds me very much of this:

Strato: The Early Years


http://youtube.com/watch?v=G54lXMNiJFw

Haha, that was just an epic scene. Do you remember when Kyle told the fellows about the Casa Bonita, and when he told Cartman he can't come, because he had been an asshole to him and called him a jew all the time... then Cartman looks back how many times it had happened. "Hmm, maybe I accidently called you a jew once, but it doesn't matter now".

[Burning Reflection]

tolkki's fat ass had me and all my friends thinking jorg was a complete ass hole and kotipelto had a huge ego.

timo needs to shut the fuck up and take more medication

At first I believed tolkki too, but I don't anymore. It seemed like style-wise that Stratovarius had reached it's pinacle in the Elements albums and after his breakdown, tolkki regressed musically into that horrible S/T Stratovarius album...If I remember straight, wasn't Jorg the one who went and did the fucking Drum tracks while tolkki was in the hospital? In theory, Tolkki could do what he wants because it was his band, but to ignore the characters, feelings, finances and families for the other members that have stood by you for so many years is disrespectful. In the end Stratovarius was just a band, but there were more dynamics to Stratovarius than the just the band aspect. It sounds like the only one who gave up on Stratovarius was Tolkki. Now tolkki is collaborating with different people and has started a different band, but they were songs meant for the original Stratovarius. In the end it seems like everything was for money and himself, not the music or fans. The finger pointing and blaming by tolkki was just ugly and he could have done it a more reserved and respectabvle fashion. I agree that for such a splendid and magnificent band that had such a great legacy and positive message for over ten years, Stratovarius has ended on a very sad, mundayne and sour note.

all negativity aside, I will still support all members and will never forget the impact stratovarius has had in my life!

[stratohawk]

But of course, Timo is doing fine in his connection with a vaguely defined "Mother Gaia" religion, guiding him to inner peace, and directing him in a peaceful manner that is a much higher quality standard of morals than the damned christian church and their wars from about 1000 years ago.

Hypocrite.

And don't forget the blow jobs he receives from his "Chosen Ones". Those would take a guy to a higher plane.

TT&Bill Clinton would get along great! :puke:

I don't get why you are so angry about TT... Even if it's all true what is written by the 4 other members, and regarding all the stupid things he did (or wrote here), why taking it personally? If he really told false facts I can only shake my head in incomprehension. But does it change anything to abuse him here, like all those cowards hiding behind some trolls?
Btw, I'd prefer Bill Clinton as president of the US. Maybe GWB did not have oral sex in the Oval Office (at least no one knows ), but concerning politics... Well, I'm getting offtopic. Nevermind.

[stratohawk]

At first I believed tolkki too, but I don't anymore. It seemed like style-wise that Stratovarius had reached it's pinacle in the Elements albums and after his breakdown, tolkki regressed musically into that horrible S/T Stratovarius album...

That album wasn't horrible. Soundwise it was a very good production, and it had something that I really missed since "Destiny", a bit of a dark side. Anyways, THIS is really a question of taste.

If I remember straight, wasn't Jorg the one who went and did the fucking Drum tracks while tolkki was in the hospital?

This is indeed a fact that has to be considered, when we read TTs statement which says that the other members and especially Jörg were lacking motivation and interest in the band. I already forgot... But with this point you are absolutely right. Jörg did the drums, and Jens was busy keeping the band together.