Revolution Renaissance

boswoth · Post by **boswoth** » Mon May 12, 2008 8:04 pm

Tolkki just announced the drummer!

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... =393259453

Bruno Agra. It is looking interesting

valo_666 · Post by **valo_666** » Mon May 12, 2008 8:24 pm

the drummer is interesting but the new song "did it my way" is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring

StragOvariuS · Post by **StragOvariuS** » Mon May 12, 2008 8:34 pm

The song is ok.
Kiske is fucking ANNOYING, damn.

Mormegil · Post by **Mormegil** » Mon May 12, 2008 8:49 pm

StragOvariuS wrote:Kiske is fucking ANNOYING, damn.

I'll stop now...

stratowerner · Post by **stratowerner** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:09 pm

valo_666 wrote:the drummer is interesting but the new song "did it my way" is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring

Very simple mid-tempo rocksong,TT can do much better!!

Demir · Post by **Demir** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:14 pm

stratowerner wrote:Very simple mid-tempo rocksong,TT can do much better!!

The song is about Kotipelto and yes fucking boring

"Did it my way " means ripping your old band mates off

what a fucking asshole

exe knight · Post by **exe knight** » Mon May 12, 2008 9:49 pm

Wtf Дre you people bitchiИg here?

dirge · Post by **dirge** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:08 pm

Demir wrote:
stratowerner wrote:Very simple mid-tempo rocksong,TT can do much better!!
The song is about Kotipelto and yes fucking boring

"Did it my way " means ripping your old band mates off

what a fucking asshole

I've not heard it yet, I doubt it will be boring. Anyways...
Nightwish ripped Tarja to pieces with some lyrics on Dark Passion Play, but nobody went off on one about them, so learn to chill out dude.

RazielSR · Post by **RazielSR** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:16 pm

Boring?....well...for me is not boring. It's a simple song, but very emotional.

I like it. I prefer LNOE, but...

I wanna hear Eden is burning. I love that song.

valo_666 · Post by **valo_666** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:17 pm

When I listen to the song I feel like I've been listening to it since 10 years ago...

dirge · Post by **dirge** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:23 pm

I've just listened to Last night on earth and Did it my way. Thought they were good hard rock songs but nothing special, which reminds me about Kotipelto's last two albums. I thought the idea was to be proper Visions style power metal. This isn't a moan at all btw! Also I thought Kotipelto did LNOE better imo.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon May 12, 2008 11:27 pm

I like that song.

boswoth · Post by **boswoth** » Tue May 13, 2008 12:19 am

Dave wrote:I like that song.

The song is OK but I cant shake the feeling this whole CD was just made very quickly with hired guns because Tolkki was broke.

From the samples and these two songs, Visions style it is not

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue May 13, 2008 1:43 am

I can't stop listening those songs and samples, i think that this is actually first-class-Tolkki-songwriting. Makes me wonder what kind of Stratovarius album that would have been.

Verdades Parias · Post by **Verdades Parias** » Tue May 13, 2008 2:09 am

I don't like the song, too poppy/gay rock, for me thats not part of Stratovarius legacy, anyway it's ok (Just carryyy oooon....

, similar song, isn't it?). Heroes, Last night on earth and the others are quit good examples of "Visions" songs.

StragOvariuS · Post by **StragOvariuS** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:34 am

stratowerner wrote:
valo_666 wrote:the drummer is interesting but the new song "did it my way" is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
Very simple mid-tempo rocksong,TT can do much better!!

So, if was a 8 min prog-metal "opera" would be ok? full of complexes drum fills and impossible guitar solos?

Ah, and btw, Saana is ONLY better than the last Avantasia album...that is a REAL CRAP.

stratohawk · Post by **stratohawk** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:46 am

Dave wrote:I can't stop listening those songs and samples, i think that this is actually first-class-Tolkki-songwriting. Makes me wonder what kind of Stratovarius album that would have been.

Same here.

valo_666 · Post by **valo_666** » Tue May 13, 2008 3:28 pm

StragOvariuS wrote:
stratowerner wrote:
valo_666 wrote:the drummer is interesting but the new song "did it my way" is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
Very simple mid-tempo rocksong,TT can do much better!!
So, if was a 8 min prog-metal "opera" would be ok? full of complexes drum fills and impossible guitar solos?

Ah, and btw, Saana is ONLY better than the last Avantasia album...that is a REAL CRAP.

Can you compare Mariah Carey and Pantera?

Mormegil · Post by **Mormegil** » Tue May 13, 2008 6:16 pm

I really love all RR -songs I've heard.
More guitar-ridden, Judas Priestesque power metal. With Michael-fcking-Kiske.

black death · Post by **black death** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:37 pm

dirge wrote:Also I thought Kotipelto did LNOE better imo.

This Kiske-version is somehow boring

StratoArwen · Post by **StratoArwen** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:50 pm

black death wrote:
dirge wrote:Also I thought Kotipelto did LNOE better imo.
This Kiske-version is somehow boring

Kiske is technically very good. Timo Tolkki obsessed with getting him into Stratovarius already in 2003 when he fired Kotipelto. But Kiskes voice is too polished. there's no drama in it like in Kotipeltos voice. Cant explain it any better.

Lurdi · Post by **Lurdi** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:53 pm

We´ll see what happens in a few months. We have also to take into account that there are more songs that have not been released yet, we don´t know how they sound like, but I can´t deny that I would like to listen to the Kotipelto´s versions since he´s got the most wonderful, gorgeous and incredible voice in the whole world. What a pity...

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Tue May 13, 2008 9:09 pm

Maybe it´s possible to hear some of the demos they made with Strato one day...

Lurdi · Post by **Lurdi** » Tue May 13, 2008 9:11 pm

IceBreaker wrote:Maybe it´s possible to hear some of the demos they made with Strato one day...

Yes, I hope so, at least Timo Tolkki said so...

dirge · Post by **dirge** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:04 pm

black death wrote:
dirge wrote:Also I thought Kotipelto did LNOE better imo.
This Kiske-version is somehow boring

Thats what I thought but yet I found the live version with koti to be great... I must go back to hear that live version again to make sure I wasn't just like wow it's new strato!

StragOvariuS · Post by **StragOvariuS** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:07 pm

valo_666 wrote:
StragOvariuS wrote:
stratowerner wrote:
valo_666 wrote:the drummer is interesting but the new song "did it my way" is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
Very simple mid-tempo rocksong,TT can do much better!!
So, if was a 8 min prog-metal "opera" would be ok? full of complexes drum fills and impossible guitar solos?

Ah, and btw, Saana is ONLY better than the last Avantasia album...that is a REAL CRAP.
Can you compare Mariah Carey and Pantera?

wtf?

RazielSR · Post by **RazielSR** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:18 pm

But Tolkki said that demos sucks.

valo_666 · Post by **valo_666** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:19 pm

StragOvariuS wrote:
valo_666 wrote:
StragOvariuS wrote:
stratowerner wrote:
valo_666 wrote:the drummer is interesting but the new song "did it my way" is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring
Very simple mid-tempo rocksong,TT can do much better!!
So, if was a 8 min prog-metal "opera" would be ok? full of complexes drum fills and impossible guitar solos?

Ah, and btw, Saana is ONLY better than the last Avantasia album...that is a REAL CRAP.
Can you compare Mariah Carey and Pantera?
wtf?

Same as the Saana-Avatasia comparison...

StragOvariuS · Post by **StragOvariuS** » Tue May 13, 2008 10:27 pm

Oh...avantasia shouldnt be a metal/rock-opera?

Ah yes, damn...its "heavy" blow jovi now.

valo_666 · Post by **valo_666** » Wed May 14, 2008 1:28 am

StragOvariuS wrote:Oh...avantasia shouldnt be a metal/rock-opera?

Ah yes, damn...its "heavy" blow jovi now.

Whatever... where's the metal/rock opera part in Saana?

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