Helloween Guitarrists

MAJINDIEGO · Post by **MAJINDIEGO** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:02 pm

So, let's see who's the greatest Helloween Guitarrist of all times...
Easy choice for me...Kai Hansen with his geniality and creativity wins easily.
What about you guys?

Gnosis_and_Life · Post by **Gnosis_and_Life** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:29 pm

KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!

Spacecake · Post by **Spacecake** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:24 am

Umm... how am I supposed to answer using that list?

But the best guitarist is Weiki. I like his style, there are a lot rock influences to it. I like his sound too. Grapow had (and still has) too flat sound...

Mormegil · Post by **Mormegil** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:56 pm

Technically Roland Grapow for sure, but I still prefer Michael Weikath's playing.

Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!

...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say, I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.

Elazul · Post by **Elazul** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 2:50 pm

Kai Hansen and Michael Weikath !

I only say Keeper 1 & Keeper 2

Shurik · Post by **Shurik** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 5:50 pm

Kai Hansen

MAJINDIEGO · Post by **MAJINDIEGO** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:29 pm

Mormegil wrote:Technically Roland Grapow for sure, but I still prefer Michael Weikath's playing.

Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say, I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.

I can't believe you bought that shit.....

Gnosis_and_Life · Post by **Gnosis_and_Life** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 6:15 am

Mormegil wrote:
Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say, I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.

Well, I'm quite happy too, I'd say, really happy, because we have Gamma Ray now!

Long live Hansen!

tkbdadsgshim · Post by **tkbdadsgshim** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 7:32 am

i'd prefer weiki , he's sooooo good , i like a lot he's stile

Mormegil · Post by **Mormegil** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 2:20 pm

MAJINDIEGO wrote:
Mormegil wrote:Technically Roland Grapow for sure, but I still prefer Michael Weikath's playing.

Gnosis_and_Life wrote:KAI HANSEN of course! Master, not only on guitar playing, but in composing and singing too!
...And in stealing lyrics and melodies from Judas Priest. No matter what others say, I'm quite happy Hansen isn't in the band anymore.
I can't believe you bought that shit.....

.........what?
Just listen Judas Priest and notice it youself. (Victim Of Fate's intro = Breaking The Law's intro (that can't be accident), Heart Of The Unicorn's vocal lines = Painkiller's vocal lines etc, etc. Also many similarities to other bands).

MAJINDIEGO · Post by **MAJINDIEGO** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:51 pm

If you think like that, all bands have some stuff from the others...c´mon...anyway, you are condemning a whole masterpiece song because of the intro, that doesn´t last even 5 seconds...

Mormegil · Post by **Mormegil** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 1:30 pm

But Hansen seems to stole stuff directly and on purpose without even adding anything own into it.
And don't get me wrong, I like Victim Of Fate a lot, especially Michael Kiske -version on The Best The Rest The Rare. I just told that the intro (which is partly also repeated during the chorus, so it's not only 5 seconds) is plagiarized.

Of course Hansen has done some very kick ass songs to Helloween, like Halloween, Twilight Of The Gods and Murderer, but somehow I've always liked for exaple Weikath's songs much better.

Alexi · Post by **Alexi** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:08 pm

Id say weiki with his malboros.

gon · Post by **gon** » Tue Dec 07, 2004 11:12 pm

Weiki.

Tetsuo · Post by **Tetsuo** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:43 am

I went for Kai but I hesitated a lot between him and Roland...the guy is a kickass guitar player! And has anybody heard him sing on the High Live DVD...he's so good...

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:03 am

gon wrote:Weiki.

Hell yes

StratoRico · Post by **StratoRico** » Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:11 pm

i don't like too much the style of making solos of helloween guitarists,but i think that the best is Roland Grapow.

i would have said kai hansen,but in terms of composition.
I think he's a good guitar player,but not a monster like Romeo,Tolkki,Loureiro or Petrucci...

Florian · Post by **Florian** » Fri May 22, 2009 11:33 pm

This topic is quite old but I can't help talking on threads about my favorite band.
I voted for Kai Hansen who is still my favorite. Roland Grapow is the best technically but I love Kai's songs like March Of Time, I Want Out, Halloween and more. I like Weiki, he often writes good songs, even if he's a little bit grumpy

And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.

So finally Kai is still my favorite, but I'm a little disapointed about the 3 last Gamma Ray albums.

NeverendingAbyss · Post by **NeverendingAbyss** » Sat May 23, 2009 12:07 am

It's a bit tough, but KAI!

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Sat May 23, 2009 2:53 am

I have to say Grapow.

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Sat May 23, 2009 3:17 am

Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.

I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Sat May 23, 2009 8:16 am

This one is way too hard, I love all the guitarists in helloween and I really can't choose.

I think each guitarist worked or works for each era they were in.

Florian · Post by **Florian** » Sat May 23, 2009 8:57 am

Babylon wrote:
Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.

He is very good technically, almost as good as Roland, but I think Sascha must write more songs to show what he can do. He wrote an excellent song, The Invisible Man, so I think he can write more songs like this.

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Sat May 23, 2009 3:49 pm

Florian wrote:
Babylon wrote:
Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.
He is very good technically, almost as good as Roland, but I think Sascha must write more songs to show what he can do. He wrote an excellent song, The Invisible Man, so I think he can write more songs like this.

He wrote some great stuff on the Gambling Album.

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Sat May 23, 2009 7:20 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:
Florian wrote:
Babylon wrote:
Florian wrote: And finally, I don't really like Sascha Gerstner, he wrote a few good songs, but we must wait to say more about him.
I think Sascha is actually pretty good, especially live.
He is very good technically, almost as good as Roland, but I think Sascha must write more songs to show what he can do. He wrote an excellent song, The Invisible Man, so I think he can write more songs like this.
He wrote some great stuff on the Gambling Album.

Oh yea, Dreambound's become one of my favorite Helloween songs ever.

Polaris · Post by **Polaris** » Sat May 23, 2009 9:32 pm

Kai Hansen is a great composer but as guitarrist Roland was the best!

stratoplayer · Post by **stratoplayer** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:24 pm

Polaris wrote:Kai Hansen is a great composer but as guitarrist Roland was the best!

I like Saschas sound more, and he is more creative in his solos. Though Weiki (along with Grosskopf) is the soul of Helloween

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:31 pm

stratoplayer wrote:
Polaris wrote:Kai Hansen is a great composer but as guitarrist Roland was the best!
I like Saschas sound more, and he is more creative in his solos. Though Weiki (along with Grosskopf) is the soul of Helloween

Those 2 are also the last original members (If you leave out the time when the band was called Secund Hell, Gentry and so on)

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:06 pm

Helloween like many other bands I love I tend to think of in era's, each one being very good in a different way, there's the Kai hansen era 1985-1989,The commercial era 1989-1994,The Roland Grapow and Uli Kusch era(I know Roland came in before this however I believe this is the era he really showed us what he was made of)1994-2001, and finally the current era 2003-????

icecab21 · Post by **icecab21** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:33 am

wtf was the person thinking who said victom of fate was the riff from breaking the law? The guitar playing in those two riffs is definitly not the same.

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