Avantasia - Dying for an Angel leaked

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Re: Avantasia - Dying for an Angel leaked

Post by icecab21 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:19 am

I think its pissing on the writer, the performers, and anyone who has a positive human story from the song when others say that a person was dammed if they did not write "shitty" music. To me the fact that people have taken the song positively is a sign that it’s a good song.

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Post by Star_Ocean » Fri Mar 12, 2010 5:57 am

icecab21 wrote:I think its pissing on the writer, the performers, and anyone who has a positive human story from the song when others say that a person was dammed if they did not write "shitty" music. To me the fact that people have taken the song positively is a sign that it’s a good song.
Tell me how this makes sense. Please, tell me.

Are you on any sort of drug? Do you have any sort of mental disorder? I'd say say. What type of disorder? You seem slightly autistic to me.

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Re: Avantasia - Dying for an Angel leaked

Post by icecab21 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:39 am

The topic is the social value of music. If a song produces a positive societal value for a group, it means it was a well written song for that group.
No drugs, No metal disorders.

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Post by ggonza43 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 6:50 pm

Even if you try to attack me with my previous post, don't you see nobody is with you? You are alone here my friend, it's the first time I truly appreciate the support everyone has with people that deserve respect. I never wanted anyone to defend me, but they did because they care. Maybe is stupid to trust in strangers, but I just realized how nice people are in this forum, and others like you don't

About my constant post that marked "controversy": OK, I admit having told that shitty comments, but what I needed was a lil' more time. I'm like that, even in real life: At first I'm kind of a guy with a lot of prejudices, and sometimes it makes people like you to jump and get instantly angry. If at anytime I made you feel like that, I truly apologize
After a time considering what I've told, I realized that what I said wasn't the best, and changed my mind thinking of all the good stuff Tobias made

That is "to reflect", something I'm affraid you don't know :?
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Re: Avantasia - Dying for an Angel leaked

Post by icecab21 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:47 pm

Basically, great it you give him another chance, could you stop insulting Tobias when he writes songs that you don't like though?
I did not try to attack you at all, I just said that if you are just going to insult Tobias and people that like his music when you don't like it, that you would bet better off avoiding his new music.
Great to see you change your mind and be more positive about it.

People don’t write music like this for people to have bad energy from it and insult the music or each other.

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Post by AAAAAAAAAA » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:11 pm

Its moments like this which warm my heart inside.. :luv3:

PS: I just bought a lizard :lol:

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Post by icecab21 » Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:52 pm

You can hug that lizard to warm its heart too.

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Post by thefreeone » Sat Mar 13, 2010 5:25 am

icecab21 wrote:You can hug that lizard to warm its heart too.
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Re: Avantasia - Dying for an Angel leaked

Post by icecab21 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:06 am

Are you saying A10 is not warm blooded and could not conduct heat to a lizard or that a10 does not have the ability to warm the heart of a lizard in the metaphorical way or both?

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Post by thefreeone » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:22 pm

icecab21 wrote:Are you saying A10 is not warm blooded and could not conduct heat to a lizard or that a10 does not have the ability to warm the heart of a lizard in the metaphorical way or both?
just believe what u want!

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Post by icecab21 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:06 pm

What was your meaning?

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Post by AAAAAAAAA » Sat Mar 13, 2010 6:11 pm

:) Could I please have some more nomnomnom. Thank you!

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Post by thefreeone » Sat Mar 13, 2010 7:04 pm

icecab21 wrote:What was your meaning?
my meaning was exactly this one

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Re: Avantasia - Dying for an Angel leaked

Post by NeverendingAbyss » Sat Mar 13, 2010 8:12 pm

Shit. Wrong thread...

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Post by icecab21 » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:20 pm

You can't define by the definition, that's just circular. What thoughts lead you to post such a negative number?

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Post by AAAAAAAAA » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:35 pm

:roll: You mean me? Negative? I am just hungry that is all... :oops:

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Post by dirtclaw » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:21 am

I quite enjoy the song (as well as the samples of the other songs from these albums.) Honestly, it would be quite boring for Tobias to just plop out Metal Opera Part 3 because it wouldn't live up to the others at all. And, of course, if your only expectation of Avantasia is for them to just do "Metal Opera" style music, why are you even a fan of them?

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Post by Ragehead91 » Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:32 am

dirtclaw wrote:And, of course, if your only expectation of Avantasia is for them to just do "Metal Opera" style music, why are you even a fan of them?
This is the most retarted thing that I've heard here in a long time. We're fans of them because of their metal operas. We think thise albums are awesome and we want them to do more music like this. Like Sammet did with Edguy he changed the musical direction for Avantasia. Not as much as in Edguy, but quite a bit. Some of us don't like that. Some of us want them to just make Power Metal again. Some of us don't worship the new stuff just because it has Tobias Sammet's name on it.

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Post by fernandotcl » Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:29 am

icecab21 wrote:one review of one of the albums
http://www.radiometal.com/article/do-no ... e--,748/en
Pretty much what I expected... :(

After watching that video I got so frustrated I didn't even bother to register at Tobias' site to listen to the whole album. In fact, I don't even feel like downloading the album, as I'm not sure it'll be worth the effort.

I found this video, it contains samples from some of the songs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z51SY6GpIKo

Sad, so much wasted potential.

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Post by icecab21 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:19 pm

Sad, so much wasted potential.
yes, just think if you listened differently, or are you trying to blame someone else for how you choose to feel and receive the music?

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Post by ggonza43 » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:13 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:
dirtclaw wrote:And, of course, if your only expectation of Avantasia is for them to just do "Metal Opera" style music, why are you even a fan of them?
This is the most retarted thing that I've heard here in a long time. We're fans of them because of their metal operas. We think thise albums are awesome and we want them to do more music like this. Like Sammet did with Edguy he changed the musical direction for Avantasia. Not as much as in Edguy, but quite a bit. Some of us don't like that. Some of us want them to just make Power Metal again. Some of us don't worship the new stuff just because it has Tobias Sammet's name on it.
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Post by Intiaani » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:20 pm

Then there are us that think it's not automatically great if it's power metal, and actually musicians might even get better results doing something else if they are bored with power metal. And it's great to have many styles of music from one artist.

At the moment, though, it seems this Avantasia is going to be full of power metal hymns! If I were you, I'd go to Sammet's backstage and have a go at the samples. My God. @_@ And those are nothing compared to the praise (in Finnish) Imperiumi gave them. ^^ Actually ordered the album already. :9~
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Post by Mormegil » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:00 pm

Dying For An Angel video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHUCxUW3uhw

Song itself is ok. Sammet's and Meine's voices are a great fit and I like it a lot more than Lost in Space.

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Post by NeverendingAbyss » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:14 am

Tobi's outfit is fashionable. 8)

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Post by Ikola » Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:50 am

yeah the new single is imo amazing, booked the double album uber-set as soon as I could find it for pre-booking. I have no doubt that it will be really awesome!

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Post by Babylon » Fri Mar 19, 2010 6:08 am

Mormegil wrote:Dying For An Angel video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHUCxUW3uhw

Song itself is ok. Sammet's and Meine's voices are a great fit and I like it a lot more than Lost in Space.
Yea I think the song is actually pretty good and I also like it more than Lost In Space. I can understand why some people don't like it, though. It has nothing to do with the first two albums, but it was pretty clear since The Scarecrow that there were not going to be any more Metal Operas.

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Post by pneumonia » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:20 pm

Tobi has said "Not evolving because of the fear of losing your fans is the most comercial behaviour you can adopt" and I couldn't agree more. Mixing styles, searching for new ones, musial experiments. I love it.
It would be boring listening to Metal Opera pt. 3,

But... this song is a bit radio song (but it is better than Lost in Space, Superheroes or Ministry of Saints), I want to here some more metal and the samples are too short for me. Let's see.

I prefer Ayreon to Avantasia

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Post by Balu » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:59 pm

pneumonia wrote: I prefer Ayreon to Avantasia
The two aren't comparable. Ayreon has a genius behind it, Avantasia has... well... Sammet.

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Post by rikkertje » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:24 am

Balu wrote:
pneumonia wrote: I prefer Ayreon to Avantasia
The two aren't comparable. Ayreon has a genius behind it, Avantasia has... well... Sammet.
:lol: True! But still I do like Avantasia too. :wink:

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