Last Albums you got

[icecab21]

there is a lot more music made than music that gets listened to or marketed well. there are thousands of bands a year that pop up in prog metal every year playing any imaginable combination of music. people can write music easyer than they can get it recorded well and easyer than they can get people to listen to it. best heard, when someone only hears a few percentage of the whole, is not much for assessment.

[adrian9]

there is a lot more music made than music that gets listened to or marketed well. there are thousands of bands a year that pop up in prog metal every year playing any imaginable combination of music. people can write music easyer than they can get it recorded well and easyer than they can get people to listen to it. best heard, when someone only hears a few percentage of the whole, is not much for assessment.

I agree with you 100%.
but also I have to say, that if you manage to record something, let say you are the next kurt cobain because there is nobody like you and you will change music forever, why make an mediocre effort to market you music?
there are a million brilliant musicians straving on the streets, that is a shame.
and sometimes there is not much that we could do.

[Rebel]

is there is a guitar god in prog rock, that has to be Alex Lifeson, not to metion geddy on bass and the master neil peart in drums.....I would never ever doubt of the greatness of this band

You seem to have a penchant for jizzing all over whatever is overplayed on classic rock radio.



This man knows how its done, he's surpassed Pink Floyd in my book of Prog awesome.

whatever dude, Rush and Pink Floyd are on the Pantheon of Prog Metal...if you like it or not doesnt change a damn thing,there may be newcomers all the time, they borrow stuff for the people who came before them, is an undeniable thing and is also very natural, only a hadful of them will pass the test of time who is always the one with the last word on everything. Rush and Pink Floyd have already surpassed; by far the test of time.
also I dont know what radio are you talking about because where I live there is not such a thing like classic rock radio

Porcupine Tree is much more consistent than Pink Floyd. For every flash of absolute brilliance from Pink Floyd, there was another Division Bell, or Obscured by Clouds. Porcupine Tree is easily the most respected prog band of the last 20 years.

[adrian9]

is there is a guitar god in prog rock, that has to be Alex Lifeson, not to metion geddy on bass and the master neil peart in drums.....I would never ever doubt of the greatness of this band

You seem to have a penchant for jizzing all over whatever is overplayed on classic rock radio.



This man knows how its done, he's surpassed Pink Floyd in my book of Prog awesome.

whatever dude, Rush and Pink Floyd are on the Pantheon of Prog Metal...if you like it or not doesnt change a damn thing,there may be newcomers all the time, they borrow stuff for the people who came before them, is an undeniable thing and is also very natural, only a hadful of them will pass the test of time who is always the one with the last word on everything. Rush and Pink Floyd have already surpassed; by far the test of time.
also I dont know what radio are you talking about because where I live there is not such a thing like classic rock radio

Porcupine Tree is much more consistent than Pink Floyd. For every flash of absolute brilliance from Pink Floyd, there was another Division Bell, or Obscured by Clouds. Porcupine Tree is easily the most respected prog band of the last 20 years.

I respect porcupine tree, and hell, they are awesome, but I will never understand why people try to underestimate the value of the old school bands, for me is as simple as there would not be a porcupine tree without Pink Floyd .just because they created psicodelia and prog rock music, that simple . period.
you are talking 1987? floyd did everything before that...way before that.
furthermore just Dark Side of the Moon alone is enough to praise Floyd forever.

[icecab21]

There are definitely some sensibilities that need to be adhered to get much of an audience. I’m not seeing very any microtonal prog bands that invent their own tonal systems as all the rage

[Rebel]

There are definitely some sensibilities that need to be adhered to get much of an audience. I’m not seeing very any microtonal prog bands that invent their own tonal systems as all the rage

Are you aware that you just contributed absolutely nothing to this discussion?

[robocop656]

There are definitely some sensibilities that need to be adhered to get much of an audience. I’m not seeing very any microtonal prog bands that invent their own tonal systems as all the rage

Are you aware that you just contributed absolutely nothing to this discussion?

I lol'd in real life. :laff: :laff: THANK YOU.

[Chillbus22]

Written word is a visual medium, and digital music is an auditory medium, therefore they are incompatible for discussion, thus everyone but me is wrong.

[Rebel]

is there is a guitar god in prog rock, that has to be Alex Lifeson, not to metion geddy on bass and the master neil peart in drums.....I would never ever doubt of the greatness of this band

You seem to have a penchant for jizzing all over whatever is overplayed on classic rock radio.



This man knows how its done, he's surpassed Pink Floyd in my book of Prog awesome.

whatever dude, Rush and Pink Floyd are on the Pantheon of Prog Metal...if you like it or not doesnt change a damn thing,there may be newcomers all the time, they borrow stuff for the people who came before them, is an undeniable thing and is also very natural, only a hadful of them will pass the test of time who is always the one with the last word on everything. Rush and Pink Floyd have already surpassed; by far the test of time.
also I dont know what radio are you talking about because where I live there is not such a thing like classic rock radio

Porcupine Tree is much more consistent than Pink Floyd. For every flash of absolute brilliance from Pink Floyd, there was another Division Bell, or Obscured by Clouds. Porcupine Tree is easily the most respected prog band of the last 20 years.

I respect porcupine tree, and hell, they are awesome, but I will never understand why people try to underestimate the value of the old school bands, for me is as simple as there would not be a porcupine tree without Pink Floyd .just because they created psicodelia and prog rock music, that simple . period.
you are talking 1987? floyd did everything before that...way before that.
furthermore just Dark Side of the Moon alone is enough to praise Floyd forever.

Historical significance is great, and I listen to Pink Floyd for it, but when the rubber meets the road, what matters most is the music itself, and it's content. I respect Pink Floyd's contributions to music, and their better albums, but Steven Wilson is the absolute genius of prog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXxZkNjKsic

[robocop656]

Written word is a visual medium, and digital music is an auditory medium, therefore they are incompatible for discussion, thus everyone but me is wrong.

Nice try icecar!!

[Kecos]

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[icecab21]

I refuted the point that there is nothing new in prog metal, when there are bands creating their own microtonal systems, there is. Also, adding metal to rock is a new creation that creates new tonal soundscapes with exploration of distortion and rhythm and meter

[Balu]

Wilson a genius? Nah, he's good, but not that good.
Prog has 3 geniuses right now I think. Arjen Lucassen, Devun Townsend and Devon Graves. That's it others are either not good enough imo, or don't have enough albums.

[RazielSR]

The last album I got in the mail was "The Great Escape" by Seventh Wonder. Amazing album that lives up to their previous albums in ways I never imagined it could.

Really?? I'm waiting to receive The Great Escape. Mercy Falls is an absolute masterpiece.

Well, as I just started to listen to this band, maybe I should give you my impression of them: First of all, I decided to listen to "Become"; nice album, with some arrengements in the songs I found pretty interesting (so far I like "Day By Day", "The Damned" and "The Secret"). Still haven't found what I was expecting of this kind of band, so I then heard "Waiting In The Wings"; similar to the previous release, although the bass sounds damn good (so far, "Star Of David", "Taint The Sky" and "Banish The Wicked"). Until now I thought it was a good band, but still haven't found that spark I was waiting for, so I decided to give it a last chance with the next record, "Mercy Falls". After giving to it a whole listen, I was like "Holy shit!!"; the album is so well made, great story, awesome sound - I haven't heard anything like this since DT's "Scenes From A Memory"; just a pure masterpiece. With this, I decided with no doubt to get their latest record "The Great Escape": Very powerful and solid release, with the title track being just wonderful (it seems that 30 minutes isn't enough for them )

Overall, great band. And "Mercy Falls", indeed Raziel, is THE absolute masterpiece !

More or less what happened to me. Anyway, I "doscivered" this band two months ago more or less. They are very soft in the lyrics sometimes, but it sounds all really good and well made. It's incredible the sound. In august the drummer left, they are searching for a new one.

[ggonza43]

Agreed pretty much, but Mercy Falls >>>>> Scenes From A Memory.

Well, that's a lil' extreme !

More or less what happened to me. Anyway, I "doscivered" this band two months ago more or less. They are very soft in the lyrics sometimes, but it sounds all really good and well made. It's incredible the sound. In august the drummer left, they are searching for a new one.

What a coincidence! I "doscivered" them too like about one month and a half ago

[Balu]

Agreed pretty much, but Mercy Falls >>>>> Scenes From A Memory.

Well, that's a lil' extreme !

DT is too soulless for me, especiall Rudess. How I hate that guy. Awful keyboardist, awful.

[ggonza43]

No matter what you think about the members, you must admit that the album was one of the best concept albums ever. The story is so enchanting and catchy that you sumerge in it completely, and the instrumental songs are just mind-blowing. Or you're now gonna tell me that "The Dance Of Eternity" is worse than "There And Back"

[Balu]

No matter what you think about the members, you must admit that the album was one of the best concept albums ever. The story is so enchanting and catchy that you sumerge in it completely, and the instrumental songs are just mind-blowing. Or you're now gonna tell me that "The Dance Of Eternity" is worse than "There And Back"

Can't say that, there are lots of concept albums I haven't listened to, but currently Ayreon - The Human Equation and Shadow Gallery - Tyranny & Room V are the best. Those easily top Scenes from a Memory.

[Arnold Layne]

Agreed pretty much, but Mercy Falls >>>>> Scenes From A Memory.

Well, that's a lil' extreme !

DT is too soulless for me, especiall Rudess. How I hate that guy. Awful keyboardist, awful.

Complayne, complayne.

Arnold Layne

[RazielSR]

Well, it's all about taste. For me, there's no other band in general, like DT. I love how Rudess plays , I ADORE how Petrucci plays, I admire how Labrie sing, etc, etc and I don't think MF is better than SFAM. And about soul...there are just two bands that made me cry while listening to a song, and DT is one of them in many songs.

But I think that the only two bands nowadays (I mean young bands) that can be the "new" DT in the future, are Seventh Wonder and Circus Maximus. In prog genre I don't see any other new bands like these two ones.

Then you have Symphony X that is not as prog I would say. It is many times more like a prog power band, and it's "younger" than DT. In prog world nowadays , I feel good with CM and SW and I know we'll have more good prog in the future, but in power metal...I don't see any new band interesting.

[ggonza43]

Talking about Circus Maximus, do you happen to know when their 3rd record is going to be released? I'm dying to know !

[RazielSR]

Talking about Circus Maximus, do you happen to know when their 3rd record is going to be released? I'm dying to know !

Well, you can read this topic in the forum, the drums are recorded: http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/circ ... ort-7.html

[Balu]

Well, it's all about taste. For me, there's no other band in general, like DT. I love how Rudess plays , I ADORE how Petrucci plays, I admire how Labrie sing, etc, etc and I don't think MF is better than SFAM. And about soul...there are just two bands that made me cry while listening to a song, and DT is one of them in many songs.

But I think that the only two bands nowadays (I mean young bands) that can be the "new" DT in the future, are Seventh Wonder and Circus Maximus. In prog genre I don't see any other new bands like these two ones.

Then you have Symphony X that is not as prog I would say. It is many times more like a prog power band, and it's "younger" than DT. In prog world nowadays , I feel good with CM and SW and I know we'll have more good prog in the future, but in power metal...I don't see any new band interesting.

I don't have a problem with Rudess (for example I admire his love of technology), but with Rudess in DT. In other bands, even in Liquid Tension Experiment, he somehow sounded better imo.
Agreed, there aren't many new prog bands except DM and SW, but those two are really good.

[ggonza43]

I'm willing for their record now

[Kecos]

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[adrian9]

No matter what you think about the members, you must admit that the album was one of the best concept albums ever. The story is so enchanting and catchy that you sumerge in it completely, and the instrumental songs are just mind-blowing. Or you're now gonna tell me that "The Dance Of Eternity" is worse than "There And Back"

Can't say that, there are lots of concept albums I haven't listened to, but currently Ayreon - The Human Equation and Shadow Gallery - Tyranny & Room V are the best. Those easily top Scenes from a Memory.

how old are you 15?17? Ayreon is a total recycle from the early 70s prog music. you better get your horizons expanded my friend; Rick wakeman´s journey to the centre of the earth and the six wives of henry VIII , the who´s Tommy,Stix´s Kilroy was here and many others are the true prog and rock operas., in fact were the Who the band that invented than concept.
and in my opinion DT´s Scenes From a Memory is the best there is from 2000 onwards.

[Balu]

No matter what you think about the members, you must admit that the album was one of the best concept albums ever. The story is so enchanting and catchy that you sumerge in it completely, and the instrumental songs are just mind-blowing. Or you're now gonna tell me that "The Dance Of Eternity" is worse than "There And Back"

Can't say that, there are lots of concept albums I haven't listened to, but currently Ayreon - The Human Equation and Shadow Gallery - Tyranny & Room V are the best. Those easily top Scenes from a Memory.

how old are you 15?17? Ayreon is a total recycle from the early 70s prog music. you better get your horizons expanded my friend; Rick wakeman´s journey to the centre of the earth and the six wives of henry VIII , the who´s Tommy,Stix´s Kilroy was here and many others are the true prog and rock operas., in fact were the Who the band that invented than concept.
and in my opinion DT´s Scenes From a Memory is the best there is from 2000 onwards.

If you don't see the brilliance in Ayreon, you are just... well, an idiot.

Recycle? God, oh God, why did you create people like this guy?

[adrian9]

No matter what you think about the members, you must admit that the album was one of the best concept albums ever. The story is so enchanting and catchy that you sumerge in it completely, and the instrumental songs are just mind-blowing. Or you're now gonna tell me that "The Dance Of Eternity" is worse than "There And Back"

Can't say that, there are lots of concept albums I haven't listened to, but currently Ayreon - The Human Equation and Shadow Gallery - Tyranny & Room V are the best. Those easily top Scenes from a Memory.

how old are you 15?17? Ayreon is a total recycle from the early 70s prog music. you better get your horizons expanded my friend; Rick wakeman´s journey to the centre of the earth and the six wives of henry VIII , the who´s Tommy,Stix´s Kilroy was here and many others are the true prog and rock operas., in fact were the Who the band that invented than concept.
and in my opinion DT´s Scenes From a Memory is the best there is from 2000 onwards.

If you don't see the brilliance in Ayreon, you are just... well, an idiot.

Recycle? God, oh God, why did you create people like this guy?

yes recycle..I´ve heard many many rock operas, you only heard ..what.....Ayeron
so, like I said you better get your horizons expanded before putting Ayeron in the top of the everest.
and .....fuck sake´s read well kid, I didnt say Ayeron was bad ANYWHERE, I like Ayeron, and I love AVANTASIA but there is no way any of them would be on the top of the opera rock charts ever.

here is a tip for free,you dont need to thank me.

-Pink Floyd/ the wall
-The Who/ Tommy
-David Bowie/ the rise and the fall of ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars
-Jesus Christ Superstar/ andrew Lloyd webber
-Joe´s Garage/ Frank Zappa (you know who´s frank zappa right?¿)
-Quadrophenia/ The Who (yes! again, who knew another band can make many rock operas??)
-Genesis / lamb lies down on broadway
-Queensyrche/ Operation: Mindcrime
when you listen to this, and break out for ignorance we can talk.


and if you ask me, American Idiot by Green Day is awesome.

[Balu]

No matter what you think about the members, you must admit that the album was one of the best concept albums ever. The story is so enchanting and catchy that you sumerge in it completely, and the instrumental songs are just mind-blowing. Or you're now gonna tell me that "The Dance Of Eternity" is worse than "There And Back"

Can't say that, there are lots of concept albums I haven't listened to, but currently Ayreon - The Human Equation and Shadow Gallery - Tyranny & Room V are the best. Those easily top Scenes from a Memory.

how old are you 15?17? Ayreon is a total recycle from the early 70s prog music. you better get your horizons expanded my friend; Rick wakeman´s journey to the centre of the earth and the six wives of henry VIII , the who´s Tommy,Stix´s Kilroy was here and many others are the true prog and rock operas., in fact were the Who the band that invented than concept.
and in my opinion DT´s Scenes From a Memory is the best there is from 2000 onwards.

If you don't see the brilliance in Ayreon, you are just... well, an idiot.

Recycle? God, oh God, why did you create people like this guy?

yes recycle..I´ve heard many many rock operas, you only heard ..what.....Ayeron
so, like I said you better get your horizons expanded before putting Ayeron in the top of the everest.
and .....fuck sake´s read well kid, I didnt say Ayeron was bad ANYWHERE, I like Ayeron, and I love AVANTASIA but there is no way any of them would be on the top of the opera rock charts ever.

here is a tip for free,you dont need to thank me.

-Pink Floyd/ the wall
-The Who/ Tommy
-David Bowie/ the rise and the fall of ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars
-Jesus Christ Superstar/ andrew Lloyd webber
-Joe´s Garage/ Frank Zappa (you know who´s frank zappa right?¿)
-Quadrophenia/ The Who (yes! again, who knew another band can make many rock operas??)
-Genesis / lamb lies down on broadway
-Queensyrche/ Operation: Mindcrime
when you listen to this, and break out for ignorance we can talk.


and if you ask me, American Idiot by Green Day is awesome.

I've listened to every one of those except the Genesis one, and still think Ayreon is on the top. I've never said I don't know others. It's just that Ayreon is the most original and inspired one.


And Green Day sucks.

[adrian9]

No matter what you think about the members, you must admit that the album was one of the best concept albums ever. The story is so enchanting and catchy that you sumerge in it completely, and the instrumental songs are just mind-blowing. Or you're now gonna tell me that "The Dance Of Eternity" is worse than "There And Back"

Can't say that, there are lots of concept albums I haven't listened to, but currently Ayreon - The Human Equation and Shadow Gallery - Tyranny & Room V are the best. Those easily top Scenes from a Memory.

how old are you 15?17? Ayreon is a total recycle from the early 70s prog music. you better get your horizons expanded my friend; Rick wakeman´s journey to the centre of the earth and the six wives of henry VIII , the who´s Tommy,Stix´s Kilroy was here and many others are the true prog and rock operas., in fact were the Who the band that invented than concept.
and in my opinion DT´s Scenes From a Memory is the best there is from 2000 onwards.

If you don't see the brilliance in Ayreon, you are just... well, an idiot.

Recycle? God, oh God, why did you create people like this guy?

yes recycle..I´ve heard many many rock operas, you only heard ..what.....Ayeron
so, like I said you better get your horizons expanded before putting Ayeron in the top of the everest.
and .....fuck sake´s read well kid, I didnt say Ayeron was bad ANYWHERE, I like Ayeron, and I love AVANTASIA but there is no way any of them would be on the top of the opera rock charts ever.

here is a tip for free,you dont need to thank me.

-Pink Floyd/ the wall
-The Who/ Tommy
-David Bowie/ the rise and the fall of ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars
-Jesus Christ Superstar/ andrew Lloyd webber
-Joe´s Garage/ Frank Zappa (you know who´s frank zappa right?¿)
-Quadrophenia/ The Who (yes! again, who knew another band can make many rock operas??)
-Genesis / lamb lies down on broadway
-Queensyrche/ Operation: Mindcrime
when you listen to this, and break out for ignorance we can talk.


and if you ask me, American Idiot by Green Day is awesome.

I've listened to every one of those except the Genesis one, and still think Ayreon is on the top. I've never said I don't know others. It's just that Ayreon is the most original and inspired one.


And Green Day sucks.

please, You havent heard any of those, and you know how I know? because nobody that listen Tommy think anything can beat that shit, and that is the way is has been since the day it was released
you live in your own little world ,dont you?