UK riots: 16,000 officers policing London's streets

[miditek]

UK riots: 16,000 officers policing London's streets

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14460554

Another prime example of the results of failed immigration policies and the cult of multiculturalism, as London and other cities endure yet another night of major chimp-outs in the region.

The grand plan actually would have worked here, but Bush wouldn't let it be successful!

[browneyedgirl]

Another example of "lawlessness" which will probably get worse as time goes on before it gets better. I think miditek understands what I mean.

[NeverendingAbyss]

Wait, so what are they protesting about?

[icecab21]

there is nothing about culture, or at least civil culture, that would lead to what some of these people are doing.

if this is an example of "lawlessness" in that way, some churches could be getting some increased donations out of this and I'm sure some will take advantage of this as a call for money

[miditek]

there is nothing about culture, or at least civil culture, that would lead to what some of these people are doing.

if this is an example of "lawlessness" in that way, some churches could be getting some increased donations out of this and I'm sure some will take advantage of this as a call for money

The cathedrals in Europe are empty; the mosques, however, are not. Empty churches won't do a fund-raising vicar or priest very much good, but you can bet the rent money that the majority of these 'protests' are being planned and instigated inside of Saudi-funded, Wahhabi-branded mosques.

The UK should deport these vermin as soon as possible. Otherwise, meet the new face of Londonistan.

[NeonVomit]

UK riots: 16,000 officers policing London's streets

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14460554

Another prime example of the results of failed immigration policies and the cult of multiculturalism, as London and other cities endure yet another night of major chimp-outs in the region.

The grand plan actually would have worked here, but Bush wouldn't let it be successful!

No, this is another example of you not having a single clue of what you're talking about, as usual. Please, don't try to act like you know the slightest thing about London, at least not to me.

This has nothing to do with immigration, race, or culture. The looters have been of all races - I've seen this myself first hand. They've been of all social backgrounds - including university graduates. (This would have been quite obvious if you'd actually read the article in the link you posted.)

So, how about someone who actually lives in this wonderful city, currently in the midst of this situation, give their take on it:

The area I live in hasn't been directly affected as of yet, although some close areas have been. I had to go through Peckham yesterday, which was pretty hair-raising. Even people in Kingston-upon-Thames (where I went to university) were getting anxious, and that's basically the most peaceful suburb imaginable.

I can't even call these people 'rioters' - they're not protesting anything. The initial spark I guess was the death of a low-level dealer who was shot by police, but those types drop like flies anyway; it was hardly news. It started up in the black communities in North London peacefully protesting his death, but then took a turn to violence - depending on the source, tempers flared and things got out of control. I'm guessing that's when the 'legitimate' protesting ended, and it basically became a free-for-all.

Since then, it seems that all of this is being organised online via social networks - when to strike, what shops, and so forth. It's essentially just seems like theft on a grand scale, and people are going along with it because they can get free stuff and not get caught. This is the single greatest motivation behind what's happening - stealing iPads and Xbox games.

The most commonly targeted shops are sports suppliers, mobile phone shops, electronics and video games. Bookshops seem to be largely untouched, I wonder why? This is not a bunch of starving people expressing outrage, this is a bunch of opportunistic criminals who have been lead to believe that this is a chance for quick easy gain. What really got me was this:

An injured kid is helped to his feet by other youths, who then proceed to rob him. I think this basically says all about the class of people doing this stuff.

Add to the mix some pretty terrible policing - they were caught totally by surprise, but one would've expected them to be in a better position to deal with the mess - and some questionable government policies about cutting social programs designed to keep kids off the streets as well as cuts to police budgets, and you have the situation at hand.

Tonight, let's hope things calm down somewhat

[NeonVomit]

there is nothing about culture, or at least civil culture, that would lead to what some of these people are doing.

if this is an example of "lawlessness" in that way, some churches could be getting some increased donations out of this and I'm sure some will take advantage of this as a call for money

The cathedrals in Europe are empty; the mosques, however, are not. Empty churches won't do a fund-raising vicar or priest very much good, but you can bet the rent money that the majority of these 'protests' are being planned and instigated inside of Saudi-funded, Wahhabi-branded mosques.

The UK should deport these vermin as soon as possible. Otherwise, meet the new face of Londonistan.

Almost all of the rioters are UK citizens and were born here - those who appeared in court today in any case. This has nothing to do with Islam or immigration. Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about, just stop.

[Rebel]

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about, just stop.

You're right that Miditek doesn't know what he's talking about, but neither do you.

[NeonVomit]

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about, just stop.

You're right that Miditek doesn't know what he's talking about, but neither do you.

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No, I live here and I have a pretty good idea of what's going on - I'm experiencing this first hand, so I think I'm in a reasonable position to comment on this situation.

[NeonVomit]

The positive side of this whole story is how people have been coming together to clean up the town. Volunteers have been drafted in to clear the streets:



As much as it upset me to see the rioting and looting, it serves as a great reminder of just what a wonderful place London can be when people come together for the common good.

[miditek]

Some things never change!

[Rebel]

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about, just stop.

You're right that Miditek doesn't know what he's talking about, but neither do you.

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No, I live here and I have a pretty good idea of what's going on - I'm experiencing this first hand, so I think I'm in a reasonable position to comment on this situation.

Any religious blaming in this situation is absurd, if you're want to try to blame this on Christianity or the church, you're an idiot.

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Wait, so what are they protesting about?

They are protesting...


THIS!!!

[miditek]

From Doctor Vomit's Ministry of Propaganda



"These are not riots! It is merely disenfranchised youths expressing their dissatisfaction with disproportionately and unfairly distributed X-Box and PS-3 units from those corporate gangsters at Microsoft and Sony!"

[NeonVomit]

Seriously, you don't know what you're talking about, just stop.

You're right that Miditek doesn't know what he's talking about, but neither do you.

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No, I live here and I have a pretty good idea of what's going on - I'm experiencing this first hand, so I think I'm in a reasonable position to comment on this situation.

Any religious blaming in this situation is absurd, if you're want to try to blame this on Christianity or the church, you're an idiot.

... are you insane? Did I even mention Christianity or the church anywhere? You're the idiot for even bringing this up.

[icecab21]

the christian thing was, i assume something beg brought up with the "lawlessness", but maybe i got the intention wrong, but i assumed that meant that this is suppose to be part of revelations prophecy. she could have been talking about something completely different though.

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she could have been talking about something completely different though.

Yeah, like..........

THIS!!

[NeonVomit]

What you say is about as coherent as this .gif, since you have nothing of value to contribute to a discussion about London or anything to do with internal UK issues.

Anyway, things are a lot quieter tonight here, just a few isolated small-scale incidents in East London - the trouble seems to be more focused on Manchester (though unfortunately not in the vicinity of Old Trafford, which would at least be one positive thing about this whole mess). If anything, it's just proof of how this was all spontaneous theft inspired by opportunism. You won't find many people trying to justify what's happening, or try to excuse anyone who was involved in it.

Sites have sprung up showing looters and anyone recognising them can anonymously contact the police and some people have even quite hilariously been boasting about their loot on Twitter and Facebook, complete with pictures (which means they were arrested at their homes pretty promptly - the magistrates are going to have a field day with those ones).

A charity shop, selling kid's clothes and toys was looted as well. That made my stomach turn - a shop that was run by volunteers, selling things donated by the public to help children in need, being looted. I mean seriously, what kind of scum do that sort of thing?

[NeonVomit]

Apparently most of the trouble in Manchester is being caused by a 'relatively small group of young people' - i.e. gangs.

[miditek]

And here is the best way to deal with these "youths"- just ask these former ROK soldiers turned shopkeepers during the L.A. Riots in 1992.



Of course, accessorizing has long been a growth industry in the U.S., such as this Springfield Armory M1A1 w/ SOCOM-style attachments. It's the civilian version of the M-14 EBR.



Also, here is a sign that was posted after the April 2011 tornado in the Apison, TN/Ringgold, GA area.

[NeonVomit]

Also, http://london.craigslist.co.uk/mob/2536072357.html

And I wish there were more people like this:

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1956: Canning Town seems to be calming down now. Groups of men have reportedly gathered in pubs in Eltham and are waiting for looters to show up. Apparently Millwall fans are patrolling the area, looking for confirmation there.

Holy shit... I don't think we'll be seeing any trouble there then.

[NeonVomit]

[browneyedgirl]

the christian thing was, i assume something beg brought up with the "lawlessness", but maybe i got the intention wrong, but i assumed that meant that this is suppose to be part of revelations prophecy. she could have been talking about something completely different though.

Yes, you are right, icecab, that's exactly what I meant! And, I'm glad someone picked up on my intent.

In my opinion those London riots looked pretty bad on TV but not as bad as the Rodney King riots in LA did back in early 1992. Prez Bush came within a hair of passing martial law then.

[miditek]

Anarchy in the UK or Waiting for the Worms?

And I wish there were more people like this.

The reality of the situation is that most of the people are more like this:



We shoot looters here, which is why we don't have problems with looters in my area.

[Arnold Layne]

I think we should put an end to crime.

Arnold Layne

[RazielSR]

It's funny, cause when I was in London I had some conversations with people from London saying they were sick of "pakis" cause... as they were english citizens because of the colonies, they had a lot of help from the goverment and they were always creating a lot of business when english people from London were having a lot of problems. The funny thing is that one of the persons I talked about this was from Cyprus! Neon, don't take this as If I had something against you, cause I have nothing against you and this is not directed against you, dude. It is just that sounds "funny" to me when non native people blame the other non native people inside a country 3000 kms aways from their home (that happens in all the countries). And while seeing all these things happening now in uk, I remembered that conversations.

But, what is happening in Uk... I think have nothing to do with religion, nor immigration.

[NeonVomit]

It's funny, cause when I was in London I had some conversations with people from London saying they were sick of "pakis" cause... as they were english citizens because of the colonies, they had a lot of help from the goverment and they were always creating a lot of business when english people from London were having a lot of problems. The funny thing is that one of the persons I talked about this was from Cyprus! Neon, don't take this as If I had something against you, cause I have nothing against you and this is not directed against you, dude. It is just that sounds "funny" to me when non native people blame the other non native people inside a country 3000 kms aways from their home (that happens in all the countries). And while seeing all these things happening now in uk, I remembered that conversations.

But, what is happening in Uk... I think have nothing to do with religion, nor immigration.

It depends, a lot of Cypriot people moved to London in the 60's and 70's and a lot were in fact born there. I find inter-immigrant finger-pointing bizarre as well, but you have to realise some communities have integrated better than others (New Malden, for example, is home to the largest Korean population outside Korea, but you hardly notice them because they've blended in so seamlessly - newcomers are only surprised by the amount of Korean restaurants there)

It's true a number of Pakistanis were given British citizenship back in the day, but you have to remember that the result is many people of Pakistani origin who are 3rd, 4th generation, having lived their whole lives in England. Problems don't tend to stem from that lot.

Besides, as you said, the current issue has nothing to do with religion or culture of any sort. It's far more complicated than that. An early analysis would point to limited job opportunities, rampant consumerism encouraged by the media, lack of positive role models, seeing bankers being effectively rewarded for driving RBS and Barclays into the ground, and pure, old-fashioned greed.

[browneyedgirl]

Besides, as you said, the current issue has nothing to do with religion or culture of any sort. It's far more complicated than that. An early analysis would point to limited job opportunities, rampant consumerism encouraged by the media, lack of positive role models, seeing bankers being effectively rewarded for driving RBS and Barclays into the ground, and pure, old-fashioned greed.

Kinda like how it is in USA.

[miditek]

It depends, a lot of Cypriot people moved to London in the 60's and 70's and a lot were in fact born there. I find inter-immigrant finger-pointing bizarre as well, but you have to realise some communities have integrated better than others (New Malden, for example, is home to the largest Korean population outside Korea, but you hardly notice them because they've blended in so seamlessly - newcomers are only surprised by the amount of Korean restaurants there)

Southeast Asians typically assimilate very well here in the States, and their academic scores are at the top of the heap, so to speak.

Besides, as you said, the current issue has nothing to do with religion or culture of any sort.

Islam- the religion of peace. Disagree with them and they'll burn the joint down!

It's far more complicated than that. An early analysis would point to limited job opportunities

So the fix there is, let's import scores more of these troublemakers that have no intention of assimilating and keep them sucking the public tit. I am sure that pumps venture capitalists and other people that create jobs just full of confidence.

rampant consumerism encouraged by the media,

Like Gibson guitars and Marshall amplifiers? The latest Motorhead CD? I know, let's punish the companies and then see how many job opportunities that adds.

lack of positive role models

Blame it on YT- a standard Marxist soundbite for excusing failure, and then shifting the blame elsewhere.

seeing bankers being effectively rewarded for driving RBS and Barclays into the ground, and pure, old-fashioned greed.

You wanted a liberal government, well you got one! You think that libtard politicians don't take campaign contributions from the corporate world? Think again.

[AGAG]

I hate immigrants.