My Pledge Music and Timo Tolkki's Avalon swindle

[Savi]

A lot of people are huge fans of Timo Tolkki, so we decided to pledge for his new project Credo signed with our names on the "thanks" section, which was managed by My Pledge Music.

As he changed his project to Avalon, we were promised to receive the Avalon CD instead.

We have never received anything, yet we haven't been refunded our money.

This is fraud, and this is illegal.

I hope you never trust a company, My Pledge Music, who make this kind of operations.

They said "we shipped the cds", which is a lie, because no person has received anything.

I hope something can be done to keep this fraud from happening again.

[AAAAAAAAAA]

A lot of people are huge fans of Timo Tolkki

Let me fix that for you!

A lot of 13 year old Brazilians are fans of huge Timo Tolkki

[Ilsekena]

I hope you never trust a company, My Pledge Music, who make this kind of operations.

This sentence is incorrect ass well.

Must be:

I hope you never trust Timo Tolkki, who makes this kind of operations. Not only via Pledge Music.

You're welcome ^__^

[AAAAAAAAAA]

Our work here is done

To our detractors, I present you Geoff Tate's sweaty armpits. Let em have it, Geoff!

[Mr cool Edit]

guys and ladies..... you are having fun??

[Rebel]

This kinda stuff blows because there's a LOT of bands doing great things with this medium, and I hate to see some jackass ruin people's truth in the medium.

[Mr cool Edit]

Our work here is done

To our detractors, I present you Geoff Tate's sweaty armpits. Let em have it, Geoff!

no joke.... he need steroids seriously......



HUH!!!! I think that Geof tate is tolkki's friend....

[Savi]

Tolkki is finally involving and offering a full refund (so public [and private] bitching actually do work).

Well, it's what he must do, so I suppose in the end you can trust My Pledge Music and Timo Tolkki, but we have been a year and a half carrying this issue, so it's normal we felt defrauded.

I dare to think you would have felt the same way, although you may deny it.

So i correct my advise, from "don't trust My Pledge Music" to "if you're not listened, complain until you are".

Thanks for your attention!

Be excellent and party on, dudes =D

[Mr Hadder]

A lot of people are huge fans of Timo Tolkki, so we decided to pledge for his new project Credo signed with our names on the "thanks" section, which was managed by My Pledge Music.

As he changed his project to Avalon, we were promised to receive the Avalon CD instead.

We have never received anything, yet we haven't been refunded our money.

This is fraud, and this is illegal.

I hope you never trust a company, My Pledge Music, who make this kind of operations.

They said "we shipped the cds", which is a lie, because no person has received anything.

I hope something can be done to keep this fraud from happening again.

fucking hell, the same shit happened to me, i wasted 40 dollars

[Peace Warrior]

Well, it's what he must do, so I suppose in the end you can trust My Pledge Music and Timo Tolkki, but we have been a year and a half carrying this issue, so it's normal we felt defrauded.

please keep us updated , let us know how that works out for you

Wow aFter not being involed at all, you reached him personally and he is now fixing everything

Those evil people in the label sent all the old records to the wrong planet!


WTF HOW FUCKING STUPID CAN YOU BE!!!!!

[Mr cool Edit]

[Doro TC]

Tolkki is finally involving and offering a full refund (so public [and private] bitching actually do work).

Well, it's what he must do, so I suppose in the end you can trust My Pledge Music and Timo Tolkki, but we have been a year and a half carrying this issue, so it's normal we felt defrauded.

I dare to think you would have felt the same way, although you may deny it.

So i correct my advise, from "don't trust My Pledge Music" to "if you're not listened, complain until you are".

Thanks for your attention!

Be excellent and party on, dudes =D

Oh Gosh...

[browneyedgirl]

Did Luther ever get the guitar he supposedly won a few years ago? Never heard.......

Yeah, sometime complaining publicly does work especially if its a person or company who does not want their credibility ruined. Not even the BBB gets results as fast as Savi did! Good job!

[Ilsekena]

Not even the BBB gets results as fast as Savi did! Good job!

Not to mention a Polish lawyer

[NeverendingAbyss]

Did Luther ever get the guitar he supposedly won a few years ago? Never heard.......

I completely forgot about this. I don't think he ever got it because he never posted pictures as far as I know.

And I never heard from him since then. I thought he was the same guy as Hiro. Who knows?

[foerg]

pledgemusic refunded the money quickly, just wrote a mail...
also, i never had problems with other projects on pledgemusic...

A lot of people are huge fans of Timo Tolkki, so we decided to pledge for his new project Credo signed with our names on the "thanks" section, which was managed by My Pledge Music.

As he changed his project to Avalon, we were promised to receive the Avalon CD instead.

We have never received anything, yet we haven't been refunded our money.

This is fraud, and this is illegal.

I hope you never trust a company, My Pledge Music, who make this kind of operations.

They said "we shipped the cds", which is a lie, because no person has received anything.

I hope something can be done to keep this fraud from happening again.

[doc_holliday]

Tolkki is finally involving and offering a full refund (so public [and private] bitching actually do work).

Well, it's what he must do, so I suppose in the end you can trust My Pledge Music and Timo Tolkki, but we have been a year and a half carrying this issue, so it's normal we felt defrauded.

I dare to think you would have felt the same way, although you may deny it.

So i correct my advise, from "don't trust My Pledge Music" to "if you're not listened, complain until you are".

Thanks for your attention!

Be excellent and party on, dudes =D

how did you get the refund? you contacted pledge music or Tolkki?

[foerg]

pledgemusic

[browneyedgirl]

Did Luther ever get the guitar he supposedly won a few years ago? Never heard.......

I completely forgot about this. I don't think he ever got it because he never posted pictures as far as I know.

And I never heard from him since then. I thought he was the same guy as Hiro. Who knows?

No, they are definitely NOT the same people!

[RazielSR]

I wrote something about it some time ago. And I wrote something again not that long ago: http://forum.stratovarius.com/viewtopic ... her#544754

[AAAAAAAAAA]

Geoff Tate reacts to hearing that Santtu has Luther's guitarra:

[Savi]

You are so rude and arrogant that I can't take any of your answers seriously.

Are you like this in real life? I guess not.

I totally wasted my time asking for help in a place where apparently only basement nerds reunite.

Go out, get a life, and respect, if you want to be respected.

See you in real life.

[Mr cool Edit]

hahahah SAVI!!!!! all is rude here, they are metal heads...... but much of here, you face it in rl and poop in his undies.....


take internet as a joke!!!!!!!!

[Doro TC]

Oh come on Take it easy. It is kinda 'invitation'.... 'baptism' I would say. I had the same when I entered here for the first time

You are so rude and arrogant that I can't take any of your answers seriously.

Are you like this in real life? I guess not.

I totally wasted my time asking for help in a place where apparently only basement nerds reunite.

Go out, get a life, and respect, if you want to be respected.

See you in real life.

[AGAG]

Next comes the piss-bath.

[AAAAAAAAAA]

I totally wasted my time asking for help in a place where apparently only basement nerds reunite.

Go out, get a life, and respect, if you want to be respected.

See you in real life.

Are you like this in real life? I guess not.

Guess again, mutha fucka!!!!!!

[Mr cool Edit]

poor GEOF tata... tete titi tutu toto tutu... I mean tate.....

I will write him a mail.... he wil hate you, "AAAAAAAAAAAA"

[NeonVomit]

You are so rude and arrogant that I can't take any of your answers seriously.

Are you like this in real life? I guess not.

I totally wasted my time asking for help in a place where apparently only basement nerds reunite.

Go out, get a life, and respect, if you want to be respected.

See you in real life.

stratoforum strikes again.

[doc_holliday]

You are so rude and arrogant that I can't take any of your answers seriously.

Are you like this in real life? I guess not.

I totally wasted my time asking for help in a place where apparently only basement nerds reunite.

Go out, get a life, and respect, if you want to be respected.

See you in real life.

that reminds me of back in the day when I used to go on IRC (it's an internet chat system full of nerds and geeks). I would go in a room seeking help about something, and immediately get trolled by a bunch of regulars in the chatroom.

[browneyedgirl]

WTF?
@Savi, none of us were rude to you. Sure, some of us made little jokes but none were directed at you. Please don't get so upset!

Basement nerds, my ass. The people on this forum are some of the nicest people around. Give us another chance. Sheeeeeeesh.