Jari Kainulainen

Aresius · Post by **Aresius** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:18 pm

well lauri as a very good and charismatic bass player, i saw him live when kotipelto came to argentina and he made the best bass solo that i ever saw

but i think he played with a 5 string bass

Stratofanius · Post by **Stratofanius** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:27 pm

Tolkki could be nice bassist

At Twilight Time he was good (even the bass-credits were to Jari Behm, who never played anything to the album

)

Warrior of Hell · Post by **Warrior of Hell** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:44 pm

maybe the Martti Varis from Eläkeläiset can do this job?!

Electric Eye · Post by **Electric Eye** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:45 pm

who is Lauri Porra?

ElDiablo · Post by **ElDiablo** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:56 pm

Electric Eye wrote:who is Lauri Porra?

A bass player who has / is playing in quite numerous finnish metal bands which have alreasy been listed on this topc.

Solberg · Post by **Solberg** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:17 pm

totally agree with Lauri Porra, i was hoping to see strato again with the 5 original guys but this won't happen

Fireblade · Post by **Fireblade** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:19 am

Well I trust TT to pick a great new bassist, even though it is sad that Jari has left... he is a nice kind polite person, and seems a steady guy to have around when things are not so perfect. I hope that they are all still good friends.

HvyMtlClickWitch · Post by **HvyMtlClickWitch** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:34 am

Warrior of Hell wrote:maybe the Martti Varis from Eläkeläiset can do this job?!

LOL!!!!! I can see the press now. "New Stratovarius line-up, featuring members of Eläkeläiset! Soon to release EP entitled "I Eat Humppaa And Shit Chains!"

iron_thunder · Post by **iron_thunder** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:35 am

HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:
Warrior of Hell wrote:maybe the Martti Varis from Eläkeläiset can do this job?!
LOL!!!!! I can see the press now. "New Stratovarius line-up, featuring members of Eläkeläiset! Soon to release EP entitled "I Eat Humppaa And Shit Chains!"

you rock.

Warrior of Hell · Post by **Warrior of Hell** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:51 pm

HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:
Warrior of Hell wrote:maybe the Martti Varis from Eläkeläiset can do this job?!
LOL!!!!! I can see the press now. "New Stratovarius line-up, featuring members of Eläkeläiset! Soon to release EP entitled "I Eat Humppaa And Shit Chains!"

hehe^^

Ethereal · Post by **Ethereal** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:54 pm

sad news for me... Too bad! Good luck Jari and have a wonderful life

... but it would have been so good to see the 5stratoguys together in Milan in November... The show must go on, mustn't it?

Patricia · Post by **Patricia** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:41 pm

Good luck to Jari!
And agree, Lauri Porra is the best bass player for succeeding to Jari.

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:52 pm

HvyMtlClickWitch wrote:
Warrior of Hell wrote:maybe the Martti Varis from Eläkeläiset can do this job?!
LOL!!!!! I can see the press now. "New Stratovarius line-up, featuring members of Eläkeläiset! Soon to release EP entitled "I Eat Humppaa And Shit Chains!"

We have a resident comedianne here! I lost my "thumbs Up" icon.

But, HMCW needs at least 10 for that line---it was great!

Jabi · Post by **Jabi** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:03 pm

I'm probably going to be hated for saying this, but anygays: even though I do believe Jari's leaving is true, who knows FOR SURE this isn't just another publicity stunt? Stratovarius have released a lot of bullshit as "official news" before.

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:04 pm

Jabi wrote:I'm probably going to be hated for saying this, but anygays: even though I do believe Jari's leaving is true, who knows FOR SURE this isn't just another publicity stunt? Stratovarius have released a lot of bullshit as "official news" before.

We´ll see that on the tour who´s gonna play bass there then.

Of course if the tour even is true.

metal_4_life14 · Post by **metal_4_life14** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:22 pm

Bad news

I wish you the best for the future guy!!!You're a great bass player!!

cliff · Post by **cliff** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:46 am

Jabi wrote:I'm probably going to be hated for saying this, but anygays: even though I do believe Jari's leaving is true, who knows FOR SURE this isn't just another publicity stunt? Stratovarius have released a lot of bullshit as "official news" before.

Jabi, I think it would be a possibility, but I truly believe it's mostly due to Tolkki's mental problems (that were a part the official news you are refering to, i guess))
This is what I wrote in Kotipelto forum about it :
"I don't think it's a marketing thing.
I'd rather say it's a "star" syndrome. You know, when you are used to read your name everywhere, that people says "he is a great song writer, his band is great", and suddently no one speaks about you anymore, you want to feed the machine so you can see and hear your name again and again, and not think you are a "loser". For example some actors or musicians can fall into deep depression when their music doesn't sell anyone."
I think I might be right on that part.

People might hate me here, but I am pretty sure the Stratovarius soap opera of last year was just the beginning, and that Tolkki's health is doing bad again. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Stratowarius · Post by **Stratowarius** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:23 am

I think you are absolutely right

Tolki seems to be a very sick man and someone ought to take him by force to a psykiatrist. Very soon ,before he destrois his and others life.

Fireblade · Post by **Fireblade** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:54 am

I got the idea that he seems to be getting better...

Is it unbelievable that Jari would want to leave? Maybe he is gonna have a baby or does not want to leave Heidi or is just sick of touring. Maybe he can't understand Timo's illness. Maybe he is just sick of the press limelight. Maybe he wants to walk down the street without ppl asking him "what is this maniac dance all about?"

Until someone makes an official statement, we are not going to know. I hope that Jari posts something, or writes something for the homepage.

Cliff, I think that kind of speculation can be harmful, because people believe it instead of trusting their own judgement. None of us knows what's really going on.

soulforged the secon · Post by **soulforged the secon** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:16 pm

Burning Reflection wrote:
soulforged the second wrote:fuck no.....
You must be either dumb or ignorant to shut down Steve like that

watch your mouth fag.....
obviously i didn't quote holy lights words so....my reaction was for tolkki's statement.....

Bryant · Post by **Bryant** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:27 pm

Hard ! and sad.
well, good luck, jari, whatever you´re doing now.

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:46 pm

I think things are already calming down, but I agree 100% with Fireblade. Jari needs to make publicly his own announcement and version of the whole situation. And, so does Tolkki. I think that would stop, or at least slow down alot of the gossip, speculation, and rumors circulating right now.

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:09 pm

Fireblade wrote:None of us knows what's really going on.

Right. That´s why so many is writing quite or more stupid speculations.

soulforged the secon · Post by **soulforged the secon** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:51 pm

am i the only one here believing that it's just because he got married recently and he doesn't want to follow the tour so that he can be with his wife?

CottonCandy · Post by **CottonCandy** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:02 pm

soulforged the second wrote:am i the only one here believing that it's just because he got married recently and he doesn't want to follow the tour so that he can be with his wife?

I'd venture a guess that you are probably quite right. That probably has something to do with it a bit.

Aresius · Post by **Aresius** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:02 pm

cliff wrote:
Jabi wrote:I'm probably going to be hated for saying this, but anygays: even though I do believe Jari's leaving is true, who knows FOR SURE this isn't just another publicity stunt? Stratovarius have released a lot of bullshit as "official news" before.
Jabi, I think it would be a possibility, but I truly believe it's mostly due to Tolkki's mental problems (that were a part the official news you are refering to, i guess))
This is what I wrote in Kotipelto forum about it :
"I don't think it's a marketing thing.
I'd rather say it's a "star" syndrome. You know, when you are used to read your name everywhere, that people says "he is a great song writer, his band is great", and suddently no one speaks about you anymore, you want to feed the machine so you can see and hear your name again and again, and not think you are a "loser". For example some actors or musicians can fall into deep depression when their music doesn't sell anyone."
I think I might be right on that part.

People might hate me here, but I am pretty sure the Stratovarius soap opera of last year was just the beginning, and that Tolkki's health is doing bad again. Hopefully I'm wrong.

completle agree

loztdignity · Post by **loztdignity** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:21 pm

I would leave too if the music sounded as bad as on the new album.

Jabi · Post by **Jabi** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:24 pm

loztdignity wrote:I would leave too if the music sounded as bad as on the new album.

Yeah, it's such a shame that the band finally decided to quit repeating themselves...

HvyMtlClickWitch · Post by **HvyMtlClickWitch** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 4:46 am

soulforged the second wrote:am i the only one here believing that it's just because he got married recently and he doesn't want to follow the tour so that he can be with his wife?

Nope. I had a conniption fit when he got married. Don't you remember? I bloody well freaked out. "Well, someone just got married. There goes the neighborhood."

But i'm not completely ready to wholeheartedly vouch for that theory yet. I'm just waiting on an official word.

cliff · Post by **cliff** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 11:09 am

Fireblade wrote: Cliff, I think that kind of speculation can be harmful, because people believe it instead of trusting their own judgement. None of us knows what's really going on.

Yes you're right. But I'm actually only giving what I "feel" about it. I don't mean that what I said is THE truth, but that's my own theory.
For ex, why a musician would tell things like that to tabloids instead metal magazines or make official statement. Something's really wrong in this IMO...

Still, the best is like you said to have an official statement.

I think CottonCandy and Soulforged_the_second have a interesting point.

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