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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:39 pm

I hope that it will release earlier...
RISTO ASIKAINEN MIX??? SHIT, NOOOOO!!!
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by Elazul » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:40 pm
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by Elazul » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:43 pm
Stratofanius wrote:RISTO ASIKAINEN EDIT??? SHIT, NOOOOO!!!
Who is this Risto Asikainen guy ?

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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:45 pm
Elazul wrote:Stratofanius wrote:RISTO ASIKAINEN EDIT??? SHIT, NOOOOO!!!
Who is this Risto Asikainen guy ?

Famous finnish POP-composer.
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by Elazul » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 pm
Stratofanius wrote:
Famous finnish POP-composer.
POP? OMG

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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:53 pm
Elazul wrote:Stratofanius wrote:
Famous finnish POP-composer.
POP? OMG

Yes, but in fact Tolkki was at "Gimmel's" (first finnish pop star winner "band") second album. He played some guitar solos. Tolkki is an old friend of Risto.
Maybe now it's Risto's time to help TT
This the album were TT plays some "solos":
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by cliff » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:05 pm
Stratofanius wrote:
Famous finnish POP-composer.
My god, this is the guy who composed and wrote everything for Nylon Beat !
Imagine 2 women who sings with their nose...
Pop" would be a too nice word to describe his work. Mmm.
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by cliff » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:07 pm
just thinking : wasn't Gimmel originally with 4 girls ? (and if I'm not mistaken, one of them is different). Are they still existing ? I hadn't heard anything from them since 1 year. Btw You can find that CD (or perhaps it was the first one, I can't rem) for 6€ in some finnish stores.
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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:10 pm
cliff wrote:Stratofanius wrote:
Famous finnish POP-composer.
My god, this is the guy who composed and wrote everything for Nylon Beat !
Imagine 2 women who sings with their nose...
Pop" would be a too nice word to describe his work. Mmm.
Nylon Beat was terrible, but Gimmel and all of those Idols and popstars -bands are just NIGHTMARE!!! I don't know that is he also Antti Tuisku's (worst pop singer ever) composer, but if he is, he is more horrible!
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cliff wrote:just thinking : wasn't Gimmel originally with 4 girls ? (and if I'm not mistaken, one of them is different). Are they still existing ? I hadn't heard anything from them since 1 year. Btw You can find that CD (or perhaps it was the first one, I can't rem) for 6€ in some finnish stores.
Who really wants to buy that

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by cliff » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:16 pm
Stratofanius wrote:
Nylon Beat was terrible, but Gimmel and all of those Idols and popstars -bands are just NIGHTMARE!!! I don't know that is he also Antti Tuisku's (worst pop singer ever) composer, but if he is, he is more horrible!

actually Nylon Beat aren't too bad live. Some of their songs are also really good for Staraoké (Anna Mulle for ex). I found one album of them in russian (it was a tape for 1€ or something) : I thought that the tape was broken, because the voices were so strange, so I throw the tape away. It was so crap.
I have never heard Gimmel, but I remember they acted like big stars when they came to south of France to film their first videoclip.
Antti Tuisku... have you heard his second album ? I heard few clips on iTunes. It's not THAT bad, at least much better than the first album (could it be worse

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Offtobik, sorry guys...
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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:19 pm
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I heard few clips on iTunes. It's not THAT bad, at least much better than the first album (could it be worse

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Offtobik, sorry guys...
Yes, sorry that this really is off-topic.
I heard his new single "Tyhjä Huone" and that is one of the worst songs I've ever heard (okay, his first album's single-hit was THE WORST).
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by Cristiane » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:21 pm
cliff wrote:My god, this is the guy who composed and wrote everything for Nylon Beat !
Imagine 2 women who sings with their nose...
Pop" would be a too nice word to describe his work. Mmm.
I know them!

and if I'm not mistaken, Tuomas Wäinölä used to play in their gigs...
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by cliff » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:32 pm
Cristiane wrote:I know them!

and if I'm not mistaken, Tuomas Wäinölä used to play in their gigs...
indeed. I think he was on stage with the band when I saw it few years ago. He is a really good guitar player btw!
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by CottonCandy » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:33 pm
It seems Gimmel has became Diversified. Cool.
I like Maniac Dance quite alot. I want this single, too!
The sound of Maniac Dance brings thoughts of early Megadeth, and Metallica. Was that intention, or am I delusional?

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by cliff » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:37 pm
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The sound of Maniac Dance brings thoughts of early Megadeth, and Metallica. Was that intention, or am I delusional?

I have the same opinion.
However, I think it's a bad idea to release this song as a single. Generally singles are meant to give a snapshot of the album so the people who likes the song will buy the album. Imagine what it is when someone hear that Megadeth-like song, decide to buy the album and then he hears songs which are more like... Stratovarius...
Still the song is great!
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by brought2ubyletterC » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:49 pm
Can someone please post the tracklisting, as I cannot access any of these links?
I'm just curious to know if there are any bonus songs.
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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:50 pm
brought2ubyletterC wrote:Can someone please post the tracklisting, as I cannot access any of these links?
I'm just curious to know if there are any bonus songs.
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MANIAC DANCE(M / L:Timo Tolkki)
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UNITED〔EDIT〕(M / L:Timo Tolkki)
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MANIAC DANCE〔RISTO ASIKAINEN QUANTUM MIX〕(M / L:Timo Tolkki)
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MANIAC DANCE〔ORIGINAL DEMO FROM HASTFITTAN〕(M:Timo Tolkki)
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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:54 pm
brought2ubyletterC wrote:Kiitos, Stratofanius!
Ole hyvä!

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by brought2ubyletterC » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:56 pm
Great, now I know what "you're welcome" means!

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by CottonCandy » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:00 pm
cliff wrote:CottonCandy wrote:
The sound of Maniac Dance brings thoughts of early Megadeth, and Metallica. Was that intention, or am I delusional?

I have the same opinion.
However, I think it's a bad idea to release this song as a single. Generally singles are meant to give a snapshot of the album so the people who likes the song will buy the album. Imagine what it is when someone hear that Megadeth-like song, decide to buy the album and then he hears songs which are more like... Stratovarius...
Still the song is great!
What about the opposite scenario?
Someone expects to hear "pure Stratovarius", and gets an 80s-style song?

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by Dave » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:14 pm
Stratofanius wrote:brought2ubyletterC wrote:Can someone please post the tracklisting, as I cannot access any of these links?
I'm just curious to know if there are any bonus songs.
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MANIAC DANCE(M / L:Timo Tolkki)
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UNITED〔EDIT〕(M / L:Timo Tolkki)
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MANIAC DANCE〔RISTO ASIKAINEN QUANTUM MIX〕(M / L:Timo Tolkki)
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MANIAC DANCE〔ORIGINAL DEMO FROM HASTFITTAN〕(M:Timo Tolkki)
Original Demo?? So maybe we can hear Miss K. sing?
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by Stratofanius » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:15 pm
I'm sure that Miss K hasn't ever sung anything... or maybe some "early testing", but that's it... maybe

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by Dave » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:18 pm
Stratofanius wrote:I'm sure that Miss K hasn't ever sung anything... or maybe some "early testing", but that's it... maybe

I've read an interview where TT says that Miss K has sung some demos.. As far as i remember, Maniac Dance, United, Back To Madness and another song.. when i find the interview i'll post it here
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by Beast_Pete » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:20 pm
1. Maniac Dance
2. United
3. Maniac Dance (Club Mix)
4. Maniac Dance (Original Demo)
5. Maniac Dance (Video Clip)
Club mix??? OMG, no!
BTW, I'll be in Wacken at that time. Can we somehow buy it there?

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by Dave » Tue Jul 05, 2005 8:29 pm
well, you could go to Kiel and buy it there..
i found the article.. TT says that there's a Maniac Dance demo with Miss K singing, and some older strato songs with Miss K on the mic.. and there are a few guitar riffs, which where acutally written for Miss K, but they didn't use them in the new album..
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by Dave » Tue Jul 05, 2005 9:57 pm
the beginning of this song sounds like a techno song..

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