IT'S FINALLY THERE (official topic for the new album ;))

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:17 pm

Wanderer wrote:Perkele! I expected that fight would have been faster. The sound of Götterdämerung was terrible. But there were good songs in the album too. Like Leave the Tribe and Just Carry On.

Hmh, it seems I disagree 98 % with your opinions. Fight!!! is quite fast I think and perhaps it could not sound as interesting and headbanging one if it were more faster. I like also quite much about the sounds in Zenith of Power, specially the drums. I´d say the drums are best in both Fight!!! and Zenith of Power. And about Just Carry On, I think I had already said my opinions about it without a mention that the song is very catchy though.

Stratolily · Post by **Stratolily** » Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:43 pm

I just love the new album!

Fight, Just Carry On, Leave The Tribe, United are amazing songs!
Back To Madness is just a master piece!

browneyedgirl · Post by **browneyedgirl** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:19 am

Stratolily wrote:I just love the new album!
Fight, Just Carry On, Leave The Tribe, United are amazing songs!
Back To Madness is just a master piece!

I like Back to Madness, too! And Maniac Dance is still my Fav. ZoP is great&the Lyrics take your breath away! Leave the Tribe is catchy&The Land of Ice&Snow is beautiful.
Yep, I got my album this afternoon&played it over&over 3 hours!

I'll play it tonight when I go to bed.
My son likes Fight, but that song did not catch my attention that much. Neither did Gypsy in Me. Sorry.

Overall, I think the album was money well spent!

fifthtea_sausage · Post by **fifthtea_sausage** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:33 am

Back to Madness is great.
Leave the tribe is great.
Gotterdammerung is good.
United is good.
The Land of Ice and Snow is good
Fight is ok.
Gypsy in Me is ok.
Just Carry On is terrible.

stratohawk · Post by **stratohawk** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:59 am

Wanderer wrote:... But mostly I hope the sound would be better.

Well, IMO that's the album with the best sound for quite a long time that's been made by Strato. Since "Visions" there was no album that had really such a powerful and strong sound. This new album sounds like hard work: Rough and powerful! I quita like it!!

stratohawk · Post by **stratohawk** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:00 am

Wanderer wrote:... But mostly I hope the sound would be better.

Well, IMO that's the album with the best sound for quite a long time that's been made by Strato. Since "Visions" there was no album that had really such a powerful and strong sound. This new album sounds like hard work: Rough and powerful! I quita like it!!

browneyedgirl · Post by **browneyedgirl** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:41 pm

I know nothing about mixing and producing an album and such, but, IMO, the sound is terrific! The music is powerful, IMO. I think the album was made well. I will listen to it again today many times.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 1:43 pm

i was expecting very much of this new album, especially of the songs "Back To Madness" and "Götterdämmerung", unfortunetly not everything was as great as i had expected.. but still it's a great album with great songs, i could listen all day long to Maniac Dance, Just Carry On, Fight and so on..

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:07 pm

fifthtea_sausage wrote:Back to Madness is great.

Grrr, Back to Madness is nearly as terrible as Just Carry On.

Pikkusielu · Post by **Pikkusielu** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:22 pm

IceBreaker wrote:
fifthtea_sausage wrote:Back to Madness is great.
Grrr, Back to Madness is nearly as terrible as Just Carry On.

I don't think it's terrible, but I just don't get it.

Wanderer · Post by **Wanderer** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:04 am

@Icebraker: Finland is a free country so I'm allowed not to like those songs or the new album if I did. Maby it just takes some more time to get used to the new sound. It took me 3 weeks to start to listen to visions when I listened it the 1st time. But then I couldn't stop listen to it

So keep the faith!

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:50 pm

Wanderer wrote:@Icebraker: Maby it just takes some more time to get used to the new sound. It took me 3 weeks to start to listen to visions when I listened it the 1st time. But then I couldn't stop listen to it So keep the faith!

Of course.

Sometimes the albums just don´t open quickly.

Agent Orange · Post by **Agent Orange** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:25 pm

This is a very good album, better than I could wish for! Lots of powerful songs, full of emotion. I think it's great to know that this album was made the way it should be: with all bandmembers on the same level and without any serious incidents like before.

I saw someone mentioning Metallica in this topic. I think he has a point in such a way that Strato's new album is very similar to Metallica's St. Anger. Both bands have suffered from members leaving (or threatening to leave), both bands have had problems communicating with eachother and both bands took a time-out to work out their problems and come back stronger than before.

It's good to know that the Stratoguys haven't lost their touch and even dared to face their own fears to work out their difficulties. Kudos to TT and his crew! =)

Eagle+ · Post by **Eagle+** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:03 pm

Agent Orange wrote:I saw someone mentioning Metallica in this topic. I think he has a point in such a way that Strato's new album is very similar to Metallica's St. Anger. Both bands have suffered from members leaving (or threatening to leave), both bands have had problems communicating with eachother and both bands took a time-out to work out their problems and come back stronger than before.

Although I like St. Anger, Stratovarius doesn't have that annoying trash can for drums

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Dave · Post by **Dave** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:35 pm

Eagle+ wrote:
Agent Orange wrote:I saw someone mentioning Metallica in this topic. I think he has a point in such a way that Strato's new album is very similar to Metallica's St. Anger. Both bands have suffered from members leaving (or threatening to leave), both bands have had problems communicating with eachother and both bands took a time-out to work out their problems and come back stronger than before.
Although I like St. Anger, Stratovarius doesn't have that annoying trash can for drums .

and as it was as St. Anger released, many people say the new album is crap, and many say it's just great..

stratoplayer · Post by **stratoplayer** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:08 pm

Dave wrote:
Eagle+ wrote:
Agent Orange wrote:I saw someone mentioning Metallica in this topic. I think he has a point in such a way that Strato's new album is very similar to Metallica's St. Anger. Both bands have suffered from members leaving (or threatening to leave), both bands have had problems communicating with eachother and both bands took a time-out to work out their problems and come back stronger than before.
Although I like St. Anger, Stratovarius doesn't have that annoying trash can for drums .
and as it was as St. Anger released, many people say the new album is crap, and many say it's just great..

I bought St, Anger and i think i wasted my money... Strato came back BETTER than before, unlike Metallica, imo

Agent Orange · Post by **Agent Orange** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 1:08 pm

stratoplayer wrote:
Dave wrote:
Eagle+ wrote:
Agent Orange wrote:I saw someone mentioning Metallica in this topic. I think he has a point in such a way that Strato's new album is very similar to Metallica's St. Anger. Both bands have suffered from members leaving (or threatening to leave), both bands have had problems communicating with eachother and both bands took a time-out to work out their problems and come back stronger than before.
Although I like St. Anger, Stratovarius doesn't have that annoying trash can for drums .
and as it was as St. Anger released, many people say the new album is crap, and many say it's just great..
I bought St, Anger and i think i wasted my money... Strato came back BETTER than before, unlike Metallica, imo

To each his own, I personally think Metallica came out better after they sorted out everything. After watching the Some Kind Of Monster documentary, I got an entirely different view on how that album came to be.

Anyway, I was making this reference because both bands were in turmoil and needed help (from either within or outside) to get it straightened out and in both cases it worked. Whether you think one came out better than the other is a matter of opinion.

adrian9 · Post by **adrian9** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:29 pm

To each his own, I personally think Metallica came out better after they sorted out everything. After watching the Some Kind Of Monster documentary, I got an entirely different view on how that album came to be.

Anyway, I was making this reference because both bands were in turmoil and needed help (from either within or outside) to get it straightened out and in both cases it worked. Whether you think one came out better than the other is a matter of opinion.

HELL YEAH!that was my point at first place,THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR READING BETWEEN LINES.
what i triying to say is that Stratovarius will never be the same again, same as metallica, not other Black Album, Visions, Ride the Lighting, Infinite...etc, and thats is what most of the old fans (of both bands) remember as the most awesome music that they have been given to us for a couple of years .

i will dig all the stratovarius stuff FOR EVER AND EVER, but come on, Im not blind, i can reconigze the best and the not so best of stratovarius. And believe me this record its not the best. (my opinion)

Jester · Post by **Jester** » Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:50 pm

I just got the new album yesterday. Not bad. Different. I have to listen to it more so it can sink in. I think it's cool for a band to try new things, provided they keep the musical integrity. Stratovarius has done that with this album. I wouldn't rank it among my favorite Stratovarius albums yet, but as I said, I just got it yesterday and I am still digesting it.

For the record. I enjoyed Elements part 1 and 2.

And. Metallica has pretty much shit the bed ever since the "Black Album". With each album getting progressively worse than the one before it. St.Anger isn't even listenable. I liked the trash can comment about the drums! To be honest though, the "Black Album" was mediocre. Their last great album was "Justice". They have sucked ever since that turd Bob Rock became the unofficial 5th member of the band.

Overall, I like the new Straovarius album.

Jesse

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:21 am

Hey I found out something interesting :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... IZN7ZJ2KJF

Too bad if you wanna hear good songs live, you have to buy priceless japanese editions...

IceBreaker · Post by **IceBreaker** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:45 am

MaFiaBoY wrote:Hey I found out something interesting :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... IZN7ZJ2KJF

Too bad if you wanna hear good songs live, you have to buy priceless japanese editions...

Holy shit. Someone (I think it was Dave?) found that information already over three monts ago.

MaFiaBoY · Post by **MaFiaBoY** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:52 am

IceBreaker wrote:
MaFiaBoY wrote:Hey I found out something interesting :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... IZN7ZJ2KJF

Too bad if you wanna hear good songs live, you have to buy priceless japanese editions...
Holy shit. Someone (I think it was Dave?) found that information already over three monts ago.

Well, I found it out ounly now and never read anything about it here, so...

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:16 pm

MaFiaBoY wrote:
IceBreaker wrote:
MaFiaBoY wrote:Hey I found out something interesting :

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... IZN7ZJ2KJF

Too bad if you wanna hear good songs live, you have to buy priceless japanese editions...
Holy shit. Someone (I think it was Dave?) found that information already over three monts ago.
Well, I found it out ounly now and never read anything about it here, so...

yeah , but i've posted that in another thread..
i was completely crazy about it, but well, now i've bought the "normal" special edition, i think i'll buy the japanese edition on ebay..

nepi · Post by **nepi** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:48 am

yeah , but i've posted that in another thread..
i was completely crazy about it, but well, now i've bought the "normal" special edition, i think i'll buy the japanese edition on ebay..

somewhere we can find the album. It doesn't matter on ebay or amazon (only the price change

)

browneyedgirl · Post by **browneyedgirl** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:32 am

I am still regularly listening to the new album&ot tired of it yet!
Vic informed me last night that he placed an order at CM for the StratoAlbum. He mailed it from work yesterday. The point is--this is the first Album by Strato he has liked enough to buy one for his very own!

A new fan!

SETH · Post by **SETH** » Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:57 pm

Lady, why don't yu let your son do his own talking.

Anyways, I do like this album more than others from Stratovarius because it sounds like the stuff I am more used to hearing. my fav song is Fight! but, I like ZoP, too, and, Maniac Dance.

haha I spent less for mine than my mom did hers. Now who is the smarter shopper!

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