Who would be in your all-star metal band?

CES · Post by **CES** » Tue May 26, 2009 12:23 pm

Ralf is probably one of the most underrated vocalists in Metal. He sounds so much like Halford it's scary. I can remember first hearing "Metal Is Forever" and thinking to myself "Wait, when did Priest bring out a new song?"

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Tue May 26, 2009 3:57 pm

CES wrote:Ralf is probably one of the most underrated vocalists in Metal. He sounds so much like Halford it's scary. I can remember first hearing "Metal Is Forever" and thinking to myself "Wait, when did Priest bring out a new song?"

I think in general every PF album until Seven Seals sounded very much like Priest.

Polaris · Post by **Polaris** » Tue May 26, 2009 8:06 pm

Vocals: Timo Kotipelto

Guitars: Roland Grapow
Keyboards/ piano: Jon Oliva
Bass: Magnus Rosen
Drums: Patrik Räfling (ex- Hammerfall drummer, I saw him live in '99 & he was an amazing drummer, never understood why he left the band or was fired)

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Tue May 26, 2009 9:51 pm

Polaris wrote:Vocals: Timo Kotipelto
Guitars: Roland Grapow
Keyboards/ piano: Jon Oliva
Bass: Magnus Rosen
Drums: Patrik Räfling (ex- Hammerfall drummer, I saw him live in '99 & he was an amazing drummer, never understood why he left the band or was fired)

Grapow actually played on Koti's first 2 solo Albums.

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Tue May 26, 2009 10:34 pm

Polaris:Patrik left to join another band, the split was not a bad one.

Polaris · Post by **Polaris** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:01 pm

hiro23 wrote:Polaris:Patrik left to join another band, the split was not a bad one.

Well this was not what I heard in that time, anyway he is a brilliant drummer, I had the chance to see Hammerfall live in 1999 with Patrik & that was an amazing show, in 2003 their show was not more the same, Hammerfall guys changed a lot, & after Magnus leave this band died for me!

Polaris · Post by **Polaris** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:04 pm

Ragehead91 wrote: Grapow actually played on Koti's first 2 solo Albums.

Yes, I know, I have all Kotipelto original cds

Wonderful guitar player, I don't like when he leaves Helloween, this is another band that had changed so much the line up that lost the "keys" you know!

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:40 pm

Polaris wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote: Grapow actually played on Koti's first 2 solo Albums.
Yes, I know, I have all Kotipelto original cds
Wonderful guitar player, I don't like when he leaves Helloween, this is another band that had changed so much the line up that lost the "keys" you know!

I don't think so. I think their last 2 albums are great.

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 3:46 am

Ragehead91 wrote:
Polaris wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote: Grapow actually played on Koti's first 2 solo Albums.
Yes, I know, I have all Kotipelto original cds
Wonderful guitar player, I don't like when he leaves Helloween, this is another band that had changed so much the line up that lost the "keys" you know!
I don't think so. I think their last 2 albums are great.

Yea I think the current line up is pretty solid. And they sound great live.

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:27 am

I have to agree that I think both Hammerfall and Helloween have solid line ups.

but it's also just fine if you don't like them.

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:30 am

Indeed. If you were really into both bands old stuff this is understandable since both bands changed (HammerFall not that much but Helloween a lot) since their first albums.

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:36 am

anyway here's another line up

Vocals:Jorn Lande(Masterplan,Jorn,Avantasia and many other bands which I can't remember at the moment)
Guitars:Matias Kupainen(Stratovarius,fist in fetus,solo)
Guitars:Rafael Bittencourt(Angra)
Bass:Roger Glover(Deep Purple,ex-Rainbow)
Keyboards:Scott Warren(Dokken,Dio,Heaven and hell)
Drums:Lars Ulrich(Metallica)

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:52 am

A Melodic Metal Dream Line-Up

Vocals:Jorn Lande(Masterplan,Jorn,Avantasia, Allen/Lande Ark, Beyond Twilight, Vagabond, The Snakes, Millenium, Brazen Abbot...) (self explanatory

)
Guitars:Magnuss Karlsson (Primal Fear, Allen/Lande, Starbreaker, Midnight Sun, Last Tribe, The Codey, Bob Catley, Greenhouse, Planet Alliance) (Well, I got some of his stuff and I actually think he is a very talanted guy. I would love to see him write a album for Jorn only)
Guitars:Ralph Santolla (Millenium, solo, Decide, Death, Iced Earth, Obituary) (I know this is weird since I tend to dislike Death Metal normaly but he really did a great job on those Millenium Albims which are top-notch Melodic/Power Metal. And I absolutly love the Millenium album with Jorn!)
Bass: Jari Kainulainen (Evergrey, Stratovarius, Project Strato, Kotipelto (I think he would fit in just great)
Keyboards: Uli Müller (At Vance) (For this I would like to have someone who doesn't really has that "lead keyboard" kind of playing style but more of a atmospheric style of playing and he fits perfectly)
Drums: Randy Black (Primal Fear, Rebellion, Annihilator) (I really like this guy. A great drummer. Very underrated)

Polaris · Post by **Polaris** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:27 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:
Polaris wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote: Grapow actually played on Koti's first 2 solo Albums.
Yes, I know, I have all Kotipelto original cds
Wonderful guitar player, I don't like when he leaves Helloween, this is another band that had changed so much the line up that lost the "keys" you know!
I don't think so. I think their last 2 albums are great.

You guys take the posts here so seriously

I was kidding, but I prefer Roland; btw Keeper of the 7 keys the legacy is really a good album!

Deris can not have a perfect voice but he is a very nice singer & is very charismatic too

Polaris · Post by **Polaris** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:33 pm

hiro23 wrote:I have to agree that I think both Hammerfall and Helloween have solid line ups.

but it's also just fine if you don't like them.

I never wrote that I don't like them, I was a big fan of Hammerfall, but is a band that don't touch me anymore, I prefer Stratovarius!
About Helloween I'm still their fan, but I prefer "the old (not so old

) line up" with Grapow & Uli!
Anyway sometimes I think they're to posers for my taste

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:36 pm

Helloween and Hammerfall are posers? Yeah...of course..l.

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:46 pm

Posers? I'm not touching that one

anyway, here's another line up

Vocals:Biff Byford(Saxon,Son of a bitch)
Guitars:Kirk Hammet(Metallica,Spastic Children,Exodus)
Guitars:Ross the Boss(Manowar,Solo,Shakin streets)
Bass:Lauri Porra(Stratovarius,Solo,Kotipelto,Gashouse garden,Warmen,Sinergy,almah)
Keyboards:Janne Warmen
Drums:Eric Singer(Alice cooper,Black Sabbath,Kiss,Stream,drive)

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:01 pm

Well, let's see if I can come up with another one:

Another Melodic Metal one that would be great
Vocals: Johnny Gioeli (Axel Rudi Pell, Hardline) (Very good singer. Nice voice)
Guitars: Roland Grapow (Masterplan, Solo, Ex-Helloween, Ex-Rampage)
Guitars: Magnus Karlsson (Primal Fear, Starbreaker, Allen/Lande, The Codex, Ex-Midnight Sun, Ex-Last Tribe)
Bass: Sid Ringsby (Jorn, Ex-Road, Ex-TNT)
Drums: Wild Willy (Jorn, Wild Willy's Gang)
Keyboards: Jens Johansson (Stratovarius, Ex-Yngwie Malmsteen, Ex-Silver Mountain, Ex-Dio)

And one that I would love to see, that once toured (at least the singer and guitarist) and that sadly never recorded a album because the guitarist is a complete dick)

Vocals: Jorn Lande (Jorn, Masterplan, Allen/Lande, Avantasia, Ex-Ark, Ex Millenium, Ex-The Snakes, Ex-Vagabond, Ex-Ark, Ex-Mundanus Imperium, Ex-Beyond Twilight, Ex-Brazon Abbot, Ex-Ken Hensley)
Guitars: Yngwie Malmsteen (Solo, Ex-Steeler (US), Ex-Alcatrazz)
Bass: Barry Sparks (Dokken, Ex-Yngwie Malmsteen)
Drums: Mike Terrana (Half Europe)
Keyboards: Jens Johansson (Stratovarius, Ex-Yngwie Malmsteen, Ex-Silver Mountain, Ex-Dio)

NightScreamer · Post by **NightScreamer** » Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:24 am

Im redoing mine.

Vocals: Hansi Kursch
Guitar and vocals: Jari Maenpaa
Guitar and vocals: Quorthon (if I could raise the dead)
Keyboard: Jens Johansson
Bass: Steve Harris
Drums: Thomen Stauch

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:57 am

hiro23 wrote:Posers? I'm not touching that one

anyway, here's another line up

Vocals:Biff Byford(Saxon,Son of a bitch)
Guitars:Kirk Hammet(Metallica,Spastic Children,Exodus)
Guitars:Ross the Boss(Manowar,Solo,Shakin streets)
Bass:Lauri Porra(Stratovarius,Solo,Kotipelto,Gashouse garden,Warmen,Sinergy,almah)
Keyboards:Janne Warmen
Drums:Eric Singer(Alice cooper,Black Sabbath,Kiss,Stream,drive)

I like this one! Except I was never really a Manowar fan, so I would replace Ross the Boss with Alfred Koffler from Pink Cream 69, for example.

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:09 am

Babylon:okie doke

Vocals:Biff Byford(Saxon,son of a bitch)
Guitars:Kirk Hammet(Metallica,spastic children,Exodus)
Guitars:Alfred Koffler(Pink cream 69,D.C. Cooper)
Bass:Lauri Porra(Stratovarius,Kotipelto,Sinergy,Solo,Gashouse garden,Warmen,Almah)
Keyboards:Janne Warmen(Children of Bodom,Warmen,Kotipelto,Masterplan)
Drums:Eric Singer(Alice cooper,Kiss,Black Sabbath,Avantasia,Stream,Drive)

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:34 am

Vocals: Mats Leven (Solo, Krux, Ex-At Vance, Ex-Malmsteen, Ex-Therion)
Guitars: Timo Tolkki (Revolution Renaissance, Project Strato, Solo, Ex-Stratovarius)
Guitars: Chris Bay (Freedom Call) (Just so we have a Rythm Guitarist and someone who can provide good backing vocals)
Bass: Jan S. Eckert (Masterplan, Ex-Iron Savior)
Drums: Dan Zimmermann (Gamma Ray, Freedom Call)
Keyboards: Janne Wirrman (Children of Bodom, Warmen, Ex-Masterplan)

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:02 am

hiro23 wrote:Babylon:okie doke

Vocals:Biff Byford(Saxon,son of a bitch)
Guitars:Kirk Hammet(Metallica,spastic children,Exodus)
Guitars:Alfred Koffler(Pink cream 69,D.C. Cooper)
Bass:Lauri Porra(Stratovarius,Kotipelto,Sinergy,Solo,Gashouse garden,Warmen,Almah)
Keyboards:Janne Warmen(Children of Bodom,Warmen,Kotipelto,Masterplan)
Drums:Eric Singer(Alice cooper,Kiss,Black Sabbath,Avantasia,Stream,Drive)

I just saw Metallica last Saturday, they were absolutely awesome. Seen them twice before but this has been definitely my favorite. Kirk owned! I'm still a huge fan of these guys, and they have always delivered live. Plus, they played my 2 favorite songs: Disposable Heroes and No Remorse!

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:25 pm

Babylon:I get condemned for it a lot but I'm still a metallica fan after all these years, I still think that they kick ass.

here's another line up I'd like to see

Vocals:Roy Khan(Kamelot,Avantasia)
Guitars:Rudolf Schenker(Scorpions,Avantasia)
Guitars:Michael Schenker(UFO,Scorpions,Michael Schenker group)
Bass:Frank Bello(Anthrax)
Keyboards:Tony Kakko(Sonata arctica)
Drums:Jorg Michael(too many bands to name, most of you should know them already)

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:32 am

hiro23 wrote:Babylon:I get condemned for it a lot but I'm still a metallica fan after all these years, I still think that they kick ass.

I know... I'm used to being picked on because I like Load and Reload

But hey, these people don't pay for my CDs or my concert tickets so, whatever

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:37 am

Babylon wrote:
hiro23 wrote:Babylon:I get condemned for it a lot but I'm still a metallica fan after all these years, I still think that they kick ass.
I know... I'm used to being picked on because I like Load and Reload But hey, these people don't pay for my CDs or my concert tickets so, whatever

Well, Load and ReLoad are actually good albums for what they are, but they just suck as Metallica albums.

The perfect Jorn Line Up:
Vocals: Jorn Lande (Jorn, Masterplan, Allen/Lande, Avantasia, Ex-Ark, Ex Millenium, Ex-The Snakes, Ex-Vagabond, Ex-Ark, Ex-Mundanus Imperium, Ex-Beyond Twilight, Ex-Brazon Abbot, Ex-Ken Hensley)
Guitar: Doug Aldrich (Whitesnake, Ex-Dio, Ex-Dead Moon Rising)
Guitar: Jorn Viggo Lofstad (Pagan's Mind, Ex-Jorn)
Bass: Sid Ringsby (Jorn, Ex-TNT, Ex-The Snakes)
Drums: Eric Singer (Ex-Avantasia, Ex-Kiss, Ex-Alice Cooper)

hiro23 · Post by **hiro23** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:02 am

I think metallica like many other bands experiments with certain things to see what works, sometimes they end being kick ass and sometimes they lack something, I know people keep knocking on the production however I think Death magnetic is an awesome album.

I'm going to try a mixing of rock genre's here

Vocals:Andre Matos(angra,Shaman,solo,Avantasia)
Guitars:David Gilmour(Pink Floyd,Solo)
Guitars:Matias Kupainen(fist in fetus,solo,Stratovarius)
Bass:Bob Daisley(Rainbow,Ozzy Osbourne,Black Sabbath,Yngwie Malmsteen,Planet alliance,Dio)
Keyboards:Dennis Deyoung(Styx,solo)
Drums:Neil peart(Rush)

Florian · Post by **Florian** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:14 pm

Ragehead91 wrote:Vocals: Ralf Scheepers (Primal Fear, Ex-Gamma Ray, Ex-Tyran Pace, Ex-Helloween (I think he played a few shows with them right after Kai stopped singing in 86).

Yes Ralf sang a few shows with Helloween, for example when Kai was ill on the Walls Of Jericho Tour.

Ragehead91 · Post by **Ragehead91** » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:32 pm

Florian wrote:
Ragehead91 wrote:Vocals: Ralf Scheepers (Primal Fear, Ex-Gamma Ray, Ex-Tyran Pace, Ex-Helloween (I think he played a few shows with them right after Kai stopped singing in 86).
Yes Ralf sang a few shows with Helloween, for example when Kai was ill on the Walls Of Jericho Tour.

I would LOVE to have bootlegs of those shows.

Babylon · Post by **Babylon** » Sat Jun 20, 2009 2:34 am

hiro23 wrote:I think metallica like many other bands experiments with certain things to see what works, sometimes they end being kick ass and sometimes they lack something, I know people keep knocking on the production however I think Death magnetic is an awesome album.

Right, and DM songs sound awesome live.

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