I'd say he's overrated. How 'bout you elaborate?NeonVomit wrote:I think Yngwie is really underrated.

I'd say he's overrated. How 'bout you elaborate?NeonVomit wrote:I think Yngwie is really underrated.
Nope, I'm not. Ruining your joke was not at all my goal.NeonVomit wrote:Someone on this forum insists that another world-famous, multiple-award-winning guitar player is 'underrated'. I am therefore using a sarcastic linguistic device to make fun, in a roundabout way, of this person. Explaining it to you, however, has totally ruined the joke. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
YOU DID NOT WRITE IT ON CAPS.NeonVomit wrote:Someone on this forum insists that another world-famous, multiple-award-winning guitar player is 'underrated'. I am therefore using a sarcastic linguistic device to make fun, in a roundabout way, of this person. Explaining it to you, however, has totally ruined the joke. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
Man, you really know your music, I'm not kidding...adrian9 wrote:Ritchie Blackmore was neo-classically inspired, but there is also a little blues and rock and roll sound, awesome guitar player, and surely Yngwie has ripped him off quite a bit, but to me, that is not shred as we know it today. Then also you'll have to credit Uli Roth (Scorpions). You can probably say that Eddie Van Halen was the first shredder in 1977. Please don't cry because I don't think Blackmore started the whole thing. And to Balu, yeah we are talking about technical abilities, YJM lyrics are corny, sometimes stupid and crap.
Balu, you are from Hungary, right? Do you know Tamás Szekeres? Great guitarist...Balu wrote:His TECHNICAL abilities are amazing, the composing, not so much. I mean, he has some nice tunes, but is he really comparable to, let's say.. Devin Townsend, Christofer Johnsson or Asis Nasseri (to name some of my favorites)?adrian9 wrote:mediocre is not a word that fits YJM,... he opened the gates for shred, he started the whole shred thing from the 80s (with the first Steeler and alcatrazz album) everything you hear now was probably done by yngwie in the 80s. (in the power metal scene I mean)
things to google.
Shred. Mike Varney. Sharpnel Records.
Yeah, I'm Hungarian. I'm familiar with only very little of his music, but he really is a great guitarist.Damien Thorn wrote:Balu, you are from Hungary, right? Do you know Tamás Szekeres? Great guitarist...Balu wrote:His TECHNICAL abilities are amazing, the composing, not so much. I mean, he has some nice tunes, but is he really comparable to, let's say.. Devin Townsend, Christofer Johnsson or Asis Nasseri (to name some of my favorites)?adrian9 wrote:mediocre is not a word that fits YJM,... he opened the gates for shred, he started the whole shred thing from the 80s (with the first Steeler and alcatrazz album) everything you hear now was probably done by yngwie in the 80s. (in the power metal scene I mean)
things to google.
Shred. Mike Varney. Sharpnel Records.
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Cheerio,
Damien
well thanks for that bro, I truly appreciate it.Damien Thorn wrote:Man, you really know your music, I'm not kidding...adrian9 wrote:Ritchie Blackmore was neo-classically inspired, but there is also a little blues and rock and roll sound, awesome guitar player, and surely Yngwie has ripped him off quite a bit, but to me, that is not shred as we know it today. Then also you'll have to credit Uli Roth (Scorpions). You can probably say that Eddie Van Halen was the first shredder in 1977. Please don't cry because I don't think Blackmore started the whole thing. And to Balu, yeah we are talking about technical abilities, YJM lyrics are corny, sometimes stupid and crap.
You're spot on accurate. Edward Lodewijk Van Halen was indeed the very first shredder. When he started out, there was no such thing as a Floyd Rose tremolo available, although he needed one for his music. So he took saws and drills to his guitars and tremolos (and wrecked quite a few beautiful instruments, like a priceless Ibanez Destroyer, in the process). He would file the grooves in the nut, put oil on his strings et cetera, just to avoid going out of tune. You know, pioneer stuff. A few years later, he met Floyd Rose and he started using his groundbreaking tremolo. Things went really fast after that. The two-handed tapping technique became popular to the point of superfluous imitation, and high speed techniques, such as sweeping were becoming ever more prominent. To be honest, that last technique should be credited to a Swedish virtuoso by the name of Yngwie Johann Malmsteen, who appeared on the scene shortly after Mr Van Halen. These two guys were the main instigators of the shred movement. Of course, there were others, such as Steve Vai, who had been working with Frank Zappa since 1978 (!), but Eddie and Yngwie were the ones who really gave the trite noodling of seventies rock a shot of adrenaline, right in its limp arm...
I can really tell you are into music, Adrian, and that you are a genuine and sincere guitarist. You have a genuine love for this kind of music. Let the lay people enjoy their ranting about who got there first. We know it's all about the...
Pick of Destiny!
Hang in there, mate! Rock!
Cheerio,
Damien
How long have you been playing? Not long enough to get bored, obviously.adrian9 wrote:I hope I could play 24/7 is the only thing I can do without getting bored.
Damien Cheerio wrote:such as Steve Vai, who had been working with Frank Zappa since 1978 (!)
I´ve been playing guitar for about 10 years now, some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.robocop656 wrote:How long have you been playing? Not long enough to get bored, obviously.adrian9 wrote:I hope I could play 24/7 is the only thing I can do without getting bored.
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OF COURSE, BECAUSE ART IS LIMITEDadrian9 wrote: play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
AGAG wrote:OF COURSE, BECAUSE ART IS LIMITEDadrian9 wrote: play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playingadrian9 wrote: I´ve been playing guitar for about 10 years now, some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
so maybe after 20 years I might get a little bored.![]()
Try playing since you were 8 years old and then come back.adrian9 wrote:I´ve been playing guitar for about 10 years now, some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
so maybe after 20 years I might get a little bored.![]()
AGAG wrote:WELL IT WASN'T SO BIG IN THE ORIGINAL
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dude Live in leningrad is aweeesome, and you get the best for everybody in that gig, even barry sparks (bass) was on his best.mayhem-for-all wrote:Yeah I got Live in Leningrad today.
Really good too. Nice to hear jens and Anders playing along the great guitar solos.