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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by Balu » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:17 pm

NeonVomit wrote:I think Yngwie is really underrated.
I'd say he's overrated. How 'bout you elaborate? :D

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by NeonVomit » Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:53 pm

Someone on this forum insists that another world-famous, multiple-award-winning guitar player is 'underrated'. I am therefore using a sarcastic linguistic device to make fun, in a roundabout way, of this person. Explaining it to you, however, has totally ruined the joke. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by Balu » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:50 pm

NeonVomit wrote:Someone on this forum insists that another world-famous, multiple-award-winning guitar player is 'underrated'. I am therefore using a sarcastic linguistic device to make fun, in a roundabout way, of this person. Explaining it to you, however, has totally ruined the joke. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
Nope, I'm not. Ruining your joke was not at all my goal.

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by NeverendingAbyss » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:50 pm

NeonVomit wrote:Someone on this forum insists that another world-famous, multiple-award-winning guitar player is 'underrated'. I am therefore using a sarcastic linguistic device to make fun, in a roundabout way, of this person. Explaining it to you, however, has totally ruined the joke. I hope you're pleased with yourself.
YOU DID NOT WRITE IT ON CAPS.

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by hiro23 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:55 am

I don't care about all the drama crap, the fact of the matter is whenever I listen to one of his albums I always enjoy it.
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Shredology...

Post by Damien Thorn » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:40 pm

adrian9 wrote:Ritchie Blackmore was neo-classically inspired, but there is also a little blues and rock and roll sound, awesome guitar player, and surely Yngwie has ripped him off quite a bit, but to me, that is not shred as we know it today. Then also you'll have to credit Uli Roth (Scorpions). You can probably say that Eddie Van Halen was the first shredder in 1977. Please don't cry because I don't think Blackmore started the whole thing. And to Balu, yeah we are talking about technical abilities, YJM lyrics are corny, sometimes stupid and crap.
Man, you really know your music, I'm not kidding...

You're spot on accurate. Edward Lodewijk Van Halen was indeed the very first shredder. When he started out, there was no such thing as a Floyd Rose tremolo available, although he needed one for his music. So he took saws and drills to his guitars and tremolos (and wrecked quite a few beautiful instruments, like a priceless Ibanez Destroyer, in the process). He would file the grooves in the nut, put oil on his strings et cetera, just to avoid going out of tune. You know, pioneer stuff. A few years later, he met Floyd Rose and he started using his groundbreaking tremolo. Things went really fast after that. The two-handed tapping technique became popular to the point of superfluous imitation, and high speed techniques, such as sweeping were becoming ever more prominent. To be honest, that last technique should be credited to a Swedish virtuoso by the name of Yngwie Johann Malmsteen, who appeared on the scene shortly after Mr Van Halen. These two guys were the main instigators of the shred movement. Of course, there were others, such as Steve Vai, who had been working with Frank Zappa since 1978 (!), but Eddie and Yngwie were the ones who really gave the trite noodling of seventies rock a shot of adrenaline, right in its limp arm...

I can really tell you are into music, Adrian, and that you are a genuine and sincere guitarist. You have a genuine love for this kind of music. Let the lay people enjoy their ranting about who got there first. We know it's all about the...

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Post by Damien Thorn » Sat Apr 09, 2011 2:53 pm

Balu wrote:
adrian9 wrote:mediocre is not a word that fits YJM,... he opened the gates for shred, he started the whole shred thing from the 80s (with the first Steeler and alcatrazz album) everything you hear now was probably done by yngwie in the 80s. (in the power metal scene I mean)

things to google.

Shred. Mike Varney. Sharpnel Records.
His TECHNICAL abilities are amazing, the composing, not so much. I mean, he has some nice tunes, but is he really comparable to, let's say.. Devin Townsend, Christofer Johnsson or Asis Nasseri (to name some of my favorites)?
Balu, you are from Hungary, right? Do you know Tamás Szekeres? Great guitarist...

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by NeonVomit » Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:26 pm

Post some of his own stuff. That was an 8/10 cover, I know plenty of people who can play like that.
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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by mayhem-for-all » Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:48 pm

Thanks for recommendations.
Any compilations any of you could recommend?

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Damien Thorn wrote:
Balu wrote:
adrian9 wrote:mediocre is not a word that fits YJM,... he opened the gates for shred, he started the whole shred thing from the 80s (with the first Steeler and alcatrazz album) everything you hear now was probably done by yngwie in the 80s. (in the power metal scene I mean)

things to google.

Shred. Mike Varney. Sharpnel Records.
His TECHNICAL abilities are amazing, the composing, not so much. I mean, he has some nice tunes, but is he really comparable to, let's say.. Devin Townsend, Christofer Johnsson or Asis Nasseri (to name some of my favorites)?
Balu, you are from Hungary, right? Do you know Tamás Szekeres? Great guitarist...

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Yeah, I'm Hungarian. I'm familiar with only very little of his music, but he really is a great guitarist.

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by hiro23 » Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:48 pm

Yeah get his best of from 1983 to 1990, great compilation album
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Re: Shredology...

Post by adrian9 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:50 am

Damien Thorn wrote:
adrian9 wrote:Ritchie Blackmore was neo-classically inspired, but there is also a little blues and rock and roll sound, awesome guitar player, and surely Yngwie has ripped him off quite a bit, but to me, that is not shred as we know it today. Then also you'll have to credit Uli Roth (Scorpions). You can probably say that Eddie Van Halen was the first shredder in 1977. Please don't cry because I don't think Blackmore started the whole thing. And to Balu, yeah we are talking about technical abilities, YJM lyrics are corny, sometimes stupid and crap.
Man, you really know your music, I'm not kidding...

You're spot on accurate. Edward Lodewijk Van Halen was indeed the very first shredder. When he started out, there was no such thing as a Floyd Rose tremolo available, although he needed one for his music. So he took saws and drills to his guitars and tremolos (and wrecked quite a few beautiful instruments, like a priceless Ibanez Destroyer, in the process). He would file the grooves in the nut, put oil on his strings et cetera, just to avoid going out of tune. You know, pioneer stuff. A few years later, he met Floyd Rose and he started using his groundbreaking tremolo. Things went really fast after that. The two-handed tapping technique became popular to the point of superfluous imitation, and high speed techniques, such as sweeping were becoming ever more prominent. To be honest, that last technique should be credited to a Swedish virtuoso by the name of Yngwie Johann Malmsteen, who appeared on the scene shortly after Mr Van Halen. These two guys were the main instigators of the shred movement. Of course, there were others, such as Steve Vai, who had been working with Frank Zappa since 1978 (!), but Eddie and Yngwie were the ones who really gave the trite noodling of seventies rock a shot of adrenaline, right in its limp arm...

I can really tell you are into music, Adrian, and that you are a genuine and sincere guitarist. You have a genuine love for this kind of music. Let the lay people enjoy their ranting about who got there first. We know it's all about the...

Pick of Destiny!

Hang in there, mate! Rock!

Cheerio,

Damien
well thanks for that bro, I truly appreciate it.
I love guitar and guitar playing, I hope I could play 24/7 is the only thing I can do without getting bored.
I also love history of rock and roll and metal music, so i read a lot, and buy tons of magazines, dvds and books. it is nice to share facts and insight stuff about guitar with other musicians from time to time. we learn from each other.
eat your cheerios.
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Re: Shredology...

Post by Damien Thorn » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:38 pm

adrian9 wrote:eat your cheerios.
:lol:
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Re: Shredology...

Post by robocop656 » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:45 pm

adrian9 wrote:I hope I could play 24/7 is the only thing I can do without getting bored.
How long have you been playing? Not long enough to get bored, obviously.

Damien Cheerio wrote:such as Steve Vai, who had been working with Frank Zappa since 1978 (!)
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :)

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by AGAG » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:54 pm

ONE OF THE MANGOS WAS ROTTEN :puke: :puke: :yuk:

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Re: Shredology...

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robocop656 wrote:
adrian9 wrote:I hope I could play 24/7 is the only thing I can do without getting bored.
How long have you been playing? Not long enough to get bored, obviously.

Damien Cheerio wrote:such as Steve Vai, who had been working with Frank Zappa since 1978 (!)
:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :)
I´ve been playing guitar for about 10 years now, some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
so maybe after 20 years I might get a little bored. :lol: 8)
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Re: Shredology...

Post by AGAG » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:11 am

adrian9 wrote: play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
OF COURSE, BECAUSE ART IS LIMITED

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Re: Shredology...

Post by adrian9 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:16 am

AGAG wrote:
adrian9 wrote: play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
OF COURSE, BECAUSE ART IS LIMITED
adrian9 wrote: I´ve been playing guitar for about 10 years now, some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
so maybe after 20 years I might get a little bored. :lol: 8)
some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing
some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing

some people say

did u get it?
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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by AGAG » Mon Apr 11, 2011 2:18 am

WELL IT WASN'T SO BIG IN THE ORIGINAL

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adrian9 wrote:I´ve been playing guitar for about 10 years now, some people say you gotta play 20 years to really master the art of guitar playing.
so maybe after 20 years I might get a little bored. :lol: 8)
Try playing since you were 8 years old and then come back. :lol: Can't master anything, besides, bation.

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Post by robocop656 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 4:06 am

AGAG wrote:WELL IT WASN'T SO BIG IN THE ORIGINAL

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by mayhem-for-all » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:18 am

I just got Rising Force on Tuesday. I like it!
I may buy something more later today.

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by hiro23 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:29 am

good deal
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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by mayhem-for-all » Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:19 pm

Yeah I got Live in Leningrad today.
Really good too. Nice to hear jens and Anders playing along the great guitar solos.

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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by adrian9 » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:00 pm

mayhem-for-all wrote:Yeah I got Live in Leningrad today.
Really good too. Nice to hear jens and Anders playing along the great guitar solos.
dude Live in leningrad is aweeesome, and you get the best for everybody in that gig, even barry sparks (bass) was on his best.
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Re: Recommend me: Yngwie Malmsteen

Post by hiro23 » Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:25 am

Yep, the era with Anders and Jens are some of the best
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